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WAR & PEACE! Are they the same thing?

 
 
Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 10:32 am
Hi All!

WAR & PEACE!

1) Are they essential to their opposites existence?

2) Are they solely subjective?

3) Are they the same thing, only viewed through an alternate perspective?

Thank you all (with the exception of all prior chosen excludees)
Have a terrific day (see above)!

Mark...
 
GoshisDead
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 10:34 am
@mark noble,
I thought it was a book
mark noble
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 10:37 am
@GoshisDead,
Hi Russ!

You well?

It is, but not always...

Have a lovely day!
Mark...
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 10:37 am
like most things, they are social constructs.

[insert lengthy constructivist litany here]
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 11:29 am
@dagmaraka,
And there will be a quiz.

Joe(No, the answer is NOT -D: all of the above.)Nation
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 03:01 pm
@mark noble,
(OK, I gotta ask ... coz I wanna know ...Wink )

So you're back then, Mark?
Razzleg
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 12:46 am
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:

Hi All!

WAR & PEACE!

1) Are they essential to their opposites existence?

2) Are they solely subjective?

3) Are they the same thing, only viewed through an alternate perspective?

Thank you all (with the exception of all prior chosen excludees)
Have a terrific day (see above)!

Mark...


1.) no
2.) no
3.) no

have a nice day, as well (no sarcasm intended).
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 12:57 am
@msolga,
(please excuse me because I am a bewildered person, but ...)

Has Mr Noble been & gone, or is he still posting around these parts?
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 03:58 am
@msolga,
OK.
Forget I asked. Wink
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 05:13 am
Ok. I wondering if the Ignore Msolga Day is over or do we have to wait until Australia comes around again.
Joe(It was as painful for me as I thought it would be.)Nation
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 05:16 am
@Joe Nation,
Wink

I think it's still going, Joe.

Not to worry.

But ya can't blame me for being a wee bit bewildered.
Right?
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 05:25 am
@msolga,
Sorry, I'm late. I just found out that today is "Answer MsOlga Without Delay Day.."..So I came as soon as I could.
Joe(breathless)Nation
Oh,
And the answer is yes, but don't spend too much time thinking about it.
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 05:44 am
@Joe Nation,

Thank you, Joe!
You, sir, are a true gentleman. (for answering without delay) Smile

Quote:
And the answer is yes, but don't spend too much time thinking about it.


Oh, OK. I will try hard not to!

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jgweed
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 07:55 am
@mark noble,
1. In thought they seem to be conceptual opposites with many gradations in between.
2. They are not solely subjective; we have rules and definitions to determine at least whether warfare is being conducted.
3. If they were the same thing, it would be difficult to account for the common conception that they were opposites. What seems to be happening is that, as in many instances in the human world, the further the situation strays from one of the opposite categories, the more subjective putting the situation into one of the concepts becomes. Additionally, the role of political propaganda, especially by warring parties, often confuses the issue.
mark noble
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 09:10 am
@jgweed,
Hi John!
Nice to see you!

I agree with you on most fronts, but do you believe that before we can command a selective opinion, we should first define the definition of "War" & Peace"?

Kind regards!

Mark...

mark noble
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 09:12 am
@msolga,
Hi msolga!

I have been working, so please excuse my late reply.
I am posting, indeed!

Have a lovely everything, always!

Mark...
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 09:17 am
@mark noble,
War & peace are the same in that mankind would not be able to discern one without the other.
mark noble
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 09:28 am
@Chumly,
Hi Chumly!

Barking up the right tree here, my friend!!!

Well done!

And have a terrific day!

Mark...
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GoshisDead
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 10:46 am
in the PF we hhad several threads on what exactly peace is, but we never had one on what war is. Peace seems to be the more interesting subject because it is more broadly applicable. War in its non-metaphorical sense is a political term, while peace is applicable in many systems.
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kennethamy
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 10:53 am
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:

Hi All!

WAR & PEACE!

1) Are they essential to their opposites existence?

2) Are they solely subjective?

3) Are they the same thing, only viewed through an alternate perspective?

Thank you all (with the exception of all prior chosen excludees)
Have a terrific day (see above)!

Mark...


They are the same only in George Orwell's, 1984 where, in Newspeak, "War is Peace" and "Freedom is Slavery", And "Love is Hate".
 

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