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When you have no hope (click here)

 
 
Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 12:29 pm
Do you feel like ending it? Are you alone in your agony? Do you seem invisible to others? Are you in a difficult situation? You need not linger in your suffering alone. Others might disregard you as something abstract or lacking in substance. This message, however, is not meant for them, it is meant for you. I am looking for beautiful, unique individuals such as yourself to follow me on a great journey. You might think that struggling another day is pointless, but I dare you to do so despite the agony that it is causing you.
This thread is all about fostering the right spirit and obeying a following set of unique values as a family. Your personal fulfillment and happiness in life are entirely dependent on your ability to live by these values.

Take your time and begin by reading and internalizing the following principles. I will guide you every step of the way.

Humility

We must remain calm on our journey and take things as they come. Only then can we maintain the right attitude and arrive at our destination. Path to peace of mind and soul requires that you keep an open mind and remain responsive.

Affirmation

We are certain that our cause is just and our preparation worth the effort. Let no soul cast doubt on our journey. By reciting these values daily, you will learn the right way of thinking and grow closer to our family.

Resolution

We are steadfast in carrying out the necessary steps during our journey. There will undoubtedly be many obstacles on the road to fulfillment and to counter them, we must proceed with absolute determination. To allow any interruptions would put our cause in danger.

Veneration

For this to work, you must place absolute trust in the guidance and judgement of the Harbinger. The road to happiness starts with acceptance and surrender to the journey.

Ease

Acceptance and surrender are followed by a sense of tranquility and pleasure. You are absolved of all guilt and shame. You cannot be hurt or blamed because you have become part of something bigger than yourself.

Secrecy

As there only exists those that take part in our journey, everything and everyone else is excluded. Mutual trust and confidentiality are absolutely necessary to the success of the preparation. By spilling what was discussed to outside parties you betray the trust of your brothers and sisters who have done you the kindness of accepting you on the journey.

Togetherness

We are all in this together. Whenever the opportunity arises, we must encourage and support each other. Let us love one another and let there be no ill will between members of our family. Each member has to commit the appropriate amount of time to foster and nurture the relationships here. They are of paramount importance to the success of the journey.

If you can truly accept and internalize these values, then you are ready to take the first steps of your new amazing life and join our loving family.

When you are ready, post a message highlighting your current situation in life, keeping in mind the values introduced to you.
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mark noble
 
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Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2020 11:02 am
@The Harbinger,
Where did you get all these 'stages of deliverence' from
And why do you subscribe to them?
Have a Lovely Day
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bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Wed 24 Feb, 2021 10:19 am
@The Harbinger,
The phrase "We are in this together" has been tainted by COVID hysteria. Btw, the people who say this often live extremely privileged lives, to the extent that it's like Nacy Prelosi offering to share a few ice creams when other people have lost their jobs because someone decided they weren't clean enough for the impossible standards.

As for the others, this sounds too much like some generic secular mindset. If I were on a bridge, about to jump, having someone talk of the virtues of Togetherness, Humility, Affirmation, Resolution Veneration, Ease, and Secrecy would sound exactly liks so much bullshit. For ****'s sake, it sounds like you're trying to draft members to some political rally, not get people to find meaning inbtheir lives.

Here's what I do if someone tried to jump:
1. Ask them "Do you have a family that will mourn you? Would this upset them?" Often times this is the problem, as they either have a bad relationship with parents or believe that theie parents wouldn't mourn them. Convincing them otherwise might be difficult , but I could tell a story about how I ran off and my parents were super-concerned.
2. If this really seems to be problematic, as "What about your friends? Do you have any to talk to?" Ask them if that's the problem. Offer to be their friend, and try to stay in touch ( I've never been good at this part).
3. If the first two don't seem the problem, but aren't readily part of the solution, ask them what is the problem. It usually boils down to a breakup, loss of job (and loss of confidence for future work), or a massive change in living situation.
4. Very rarely, it's something philosophical, like, your religion failed to make a meaningful life and you can't understand how to make things work. You're devoted to your fauth but you're broke, homeless, and/or alone. Remind them here that religion doesn't guarantee success, and the point of things is finding meaning not in the things of this world, but in one's faith.
5. Very rarely, you have someone who has existential despair. Not sure there's much you can do there. But reminding them that people are there to hang out with even if their life is pointless might give them hope.

Even with that, I'm not sure that I've even successfully saved anyone. But it's a hell of a lot more real than any of that crap. If someone recited the list you gave to me, I'd say "See you in hell" and jump.

Human beings don't deal in stupid lofty ideals. They deal with the real world. And the real world is messy and involves the cares and concerns of our frustrations and personal problems. It deals in people.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 24 Feb, 2021 01:30 pm
@The Harbinger,
The Harbinger wrote:


Do you feel like ending it? Are you alone in your agony? Do you seem invisible to others? Are you in a difficult situation? You need not linger in your suffering alone. Others might disregard you as something abstract or lacking in substance. This message, however, is not meant for them, it is meant for you. I am looking for beautiful, unique individuals such as yourself to follow me on a great journey. You might think that struggling another day is pointless, but I dare you to do so despite the agony that it is causing you.
This thread is all about fostering the right spirit and obeying a following set of unique values as a family. Your personal fulfillment and happiness in life are entirely dependent on your ability to live by these values.

Take your time and begin by reading and internalizing the following principles. I will guide you every step of the way.

Humility

We must remain calm on our journey and take things as they come. Only then can we maintain the right attitude and arrive at our destination. Path to peace of mind and soul requires that you keep an open mind and remain responsive.

Affirmation

We are certain that our cause is just and our preparation worth the effort. Let no soul cast doubt on our journey. By reciting these values daily, you will learn the right way of thinking and grow closer to our family.

Resolution

We are steadfast in carrying out the necessary steps during our journey. There will undoubtedly be many obstacles on the road to fulfillment and to counter them, we must proceed with absolute determination. To allow any interruptions would put our cause in danger.

Veneration

For this to work, you must place absolute trust in the guidance and judgement of the Harbinger. The road to happiness starts with acceptance and surrender to the journey.

Ease

Acceptance and surrender are followed by a sense of tranquility and pleasure. You are absolved of all guilt and shame. You cannot be hurt or blamed because you have become part of something bigger than yourself.

Secrecy

As there only exists those that take part in our journey, everything and everyone else is excluded. Mutual trust and confidentiality are absolutely necessary to the success of the preparation. By spilling what was discussed to outside parties you betray the trust of your brothers and sisters who have done you the kindness of accepting you on the journey.

Togetherness

We are all in this together. Whenever the opportunity arises, we must encourage and support each other. Let us love one another and let there be no ill will between members of our family. Each member has to commit the appropriate amount of time to foster and nurture the relationships here. They are of paramount importance to the success of the journey.

If you can truly accept and internalize these values, then you are ready to take the first steps of your new amazing life and join our loving family.

When you are ready, post a message highlighting your current situation in life, keeping in mind the values introduced to you.



Considering the tone of this thread...the sound of you OP...

...the very last thing you ought to have used to start your essay is:

HUMILITY!

You are lucky you can even spell it correctly.
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