The End of Men

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As a man, you simply work hard and pursue the life you want, and don't evaluate your success by others success/failure.

I want to do many things in my life, being a man is not going to limit me on any of those things. The is not the end of men, but it could be the end of entitlement. Deal with it. If you can't survive in the world without entitlement favoring you, then you're weak. It seems your resentment comes from having your cultural handicap removed.

Women aren't your adversaries hawkeye, you are.

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I am very successful in life, and have rarely had any trouble with women. This thread is intended to be about the shift in fortunes between men and women in America in general. I did not write the piece in the OP, but I assume that the author has email so you could always take your bitch up with Ms Rosin, but since it has nothing to do with me kindly leave me out of it.

Cute, but you added your shtick at end, so don't try to abandon any sort of attachment to the post.

The shift of fortunes? Who gives a damn? This is a meaningless omen unless you believe that the balance of fortune must result in the surplus in the men's pocket.

What is so threatening about this for you? If more women are working, and in management, then women are EARNING more fortune.

Quit complaining.

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My wife is making a lot of money, which allows me to take this year off, I am getting ready to open a restuarant which I can do because she can support us. Why would I hold a grudge against women doing so well when my woman doing so well has been so good for me personally? Again, this topic is general, it is not about me. You have been told this and yet you go on with your false belief. This points to a listening problem on your part.

This kicker is that you know that I was a stay at home dad for ten years which was possible because my wife could support us, and still you maintain your delusions about me.

Now, if youd like to talk about the topic please do so, otherwise please go away,

You're still describing a non-topic. What here needs to be addressed?

That the workplace has become competitive?

You still said that:

Which is in no way nullified by the employment of women. If you think it does, you don't understand the issue.

If 3 out of 4 managers are women, but the 4th is a man who had to work half as hard to get his position, it doesn't matter that women make up more of the management, does it? It would still be a gender bias.

Labor statistics still show that women are passed over or have to work harder to achieve upward career opportunities.

You're argument sounds like saying that because a Georgia Coca-Cola factory is operated mostly by African-Americans, that it means they can't claim for unfair work conditions because they are the majority.

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Once upon a time a capable man had every chance to succeed, a capable woman less so. Slowly we are reaching the point where a capable person has every chance regardless of whether that person is a man or a woman. That may mean more competition for men, but that doesn't mean "woe is Man". The pendulum is not swinging so that men are discriminated and capable men are denied jobs in place of less capable women. I think this article is really just an observation that men no longer have as much of a gender advantage as they historically did and that we can envision a day where there is no advantage.

The End of Men

about bloody time, now if we can just get rid of the women and children, the world would be perfect

It is kind of funny as I compare to my position. In a sense I haven't really thought it all the way through before - my hierachy within my reporting tree starting with the highest level.

SVP - woman/VP - woman/AVP - woman/director - woman/UM (me) -woman/manager - woman/several analysts and sr. analysts - all men (not one woman) - granted we have a couple of positions open at different levels - all the lower levels I have been interviewing for have been over 90% men! Just seems odd.

You could always move to the Sudan, Congo, Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan. Apparently men still are very much in control of society in those countries.

Really?

This is what keeps you awake at night?

Will we see groups of men wandering the streets aimlessly, lost, dazed, purposeless, too stubborn to ask for directions?

This might just be part of the evolutionary process. As men become less useful, their habits and behaviors less appealing, they become less relevant as a component of female happiness.

Well, we no longer need them to hunt for food. Supermarkets have replaced them as far as that goes.

We don't need them for protection, in fact we'd probably be safer without them.Most of the violence in the world is their doing.

Now that women have acquired fairly good skills in carpentry, plumbing, and hanging wallpaper, we don't really need them for those minor home repairs.

Most of them, beyond the age of 30, aren't good for the heavy lifting jobs. A man with a really good, fit, muscular body is a rare sight these days.

Having to constantly prop up their sagging egos has really become a drag. We can certainly live without that.

Tidying up will be faster, without the mess they create.

Without them, we know the toilet seat will always be down.

They never were the greatest conversationalists, so it's not that we'll notice an absence of stimulating company.

Many women swear that vibrators provide better orgasms, and they make no demands and function more reliably.

Grateful puppies from the local shelter can certainly provide more fidelity than many men have been capable of.

Children really don't need a male parent. Parenting isn't a gender specific job, and women have always done most of the work in this department anyway.

Sperm banks can provide a wider choice of attributes for our offspring beyond what we could get from the few partners most of us now select for that purpose.

We can certainly manage and run our own businesses and governments without them.

So, what will become of men?

On balance, considering everything, we might just need them as sperm donors.

Did we ever really need them for more than that?

Hawkeye claims to be secure in his Penishood, but his posts have always left me in serious doubt.

I disagree with this:


I've found them to make wonderful friends - extremely amusing and entertaining. Today I had to kill a wasp for one and it made me laugh for ten minutes. He swatted the thing with a paper and it fell to the floor and then he went to pick it up and apparently it spasmed and he shrieked - yes shrieked (and this is a gravelly, low-voiced man) and backed away like he was about to be bit by a rattle snake.

I had to go over and swat it again and scoop it up and dispose of it - still laughing- and I'm still laughing - remembering it now.


I also don't agree with that.

I hope its not the end of men - I like their hands and voices too.

I would like more women in my place of work for a few reasons:

- I like the engaging sexuality aspect as it can mean romance.
- I like the emotional aspect as it can mean a more sympathetic ear.
- I like that they are physically weaker as it can mean I may not have to perform beyond what a woman can do.

wow - this makes lots of common sense - I think we should keep the men with the best attributes in a pen (with facilities enough to maintain those positive attributes) and then use these men with the highest qualities for providing sperm.

the article goes further, it raises the question of are we already at a point where women have the advantage. Even if the reversal has not gone that far this has huge ramifications for family life. The fact that increasingly women decide they dont want a man, which leaves men without women and presumably unattached to family has to be a huge concern after we see what this has done to the lower class black man. I am not so sure that these wayward men will gravitate to a life a crime, I more suspect they will take up radicalism. The danger is that we will end up with a huge pocket of excess men with nothing at stake in the society, who will be ready and willing to burn it down.

really, I am surprised that this is the first you are hearing about this. You might want to take a look into how you stay up with current events, as obviously something has gone wrong with what ever you are doing. This problem came onto the radar about ten years ago, and has continued to grow rapidly, and around the middle of last year when it was confirmed that this recession has hurt men much more than women it jumped in priority of concern.

No romance and no sympathetic ear...oh my!

women have always done this, though presumably not consciously.