Swears, Insults, Off-Color Language, Stereotypes

@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

From your Profile, I infer that "here" means Austrailia.

Correct inference. You can't imagine how much of our lives we spend fighting (what I'm sure will be a futile battle) to make our kids keep saying Zed. I think the United States should correct the mistake before it spreads any further.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Intrepid wrote:
Ok. You go look up enuf and tell me what you find.
We find that we need fonetic dictionaries.

David

So, you either lied or were mistaken when you said to just look it up the way it sounds in the dictionary.

If there is a need for a phonetic dictionary, why do we need phonetic spelling in the first place? How many variations of a phonetic spelling do you recommend be part of a phonetic dictionary?

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

My impression of the intended meaning of the male sex organ
is low intelligence.

On this we are in accord.

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As to the female organ, it refers to bickering,
a brittle tendency to raise too many objections in an ambiance of impatience.

This is the peculiar divergence.

In Australia, this worst of words is reserved for the most deliberate, abhorrent, cruel, mean-spirited of men. Almost never used to, or about, women, and strangely, if it does, there's a masculinity implied in the insult. It's like you'd really have "balls" to be called a "c" as a woman.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Applying this to chicks makes no sense. It defies logic.

Swear words are not supposed to be logical. They are supposed to evoke a visceral, immediate response. It's all about shock value. A woman being called a bitch is not going to logically consider the word and think that female dogs are friendly and nuturing so she must have just received a compliment. When I was much younger, my younger brother was very upset at me and wanted to curse, but knew he couldn't in front of his family, so he yelled out "son of a female dog!" It was all I could do to not laugh out loud. In cursing, "bitch" carries a lot more weight that "female dog!" Likewise, you may consider being called a socialist much worse than being called a dick head, but not as a swear word. Call me a socialist and I have to pull up my definition of socialist, examine my recent actions to it and compare the two to formulate a response. The meaning of dick head is immediately clear.

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@OmSigDAVID,

David wrote:

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the slang is stupidly crafted. It makes no sense.

David wrote:

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Ithink we all know that female dogs are bitches;
I have found them to be sweet tempered.

Applying this to chicks makes no sense. It defies logic.

Isn't chicks a slang term? hmmm

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@Intrepid,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Intrepid wrote:
Ok. You go look up enuf and tell me what you find.
We find that we need fonetic dictionaries.

David

Intrepid wrote:

If there is a need for a phonetic dictionary,
why do we need phonetic spelling in the first place?

Therein lies sound reasoning n efficiency.
My position will prevail; victory is inevitable.

Intrepid wrote:

How many variations of a phonetic spelling do you recommend be part of a phonetic dictionary?

1.

(The way Tom Brokaw pronounces it.)

David

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From wikipedia;

Reflecting different national usages, the Compact Oxford English Dictionary defines "c___" as "an unpleasant or stupid person", whereas Merriam-Webster defines the term as "a disparaging term for a woman" and "a woman regarded as a sexual object"; the Macquarie Dictionary of Australian English defines it as "a despicable man". When used as a slang term with a positive qualifier (good, funny, clever, etc.) in countries such as Great Britain, New Zealand and Australia, it conveys a positive sense of the object or person to which it refers.

(edited by me, as I prefer not to post such words myself, though I admit to using them in RL where I have greater awareness of my audience)

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@Eorl,

Eorl wrote:

This is the peculiar divergence.

In Australia, this worst of words is reserved for the most deliberate, abhorrent, cruel, mean-spirited of men.
Almost never used to, or about, women, and strangely, if it does, there's a masculinity implied in the insult.
It's like you'd really have "balls" to be called a "c" as a woman.

THAT must result from an interesting etymological evolution.

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

Isn't chicks a slang term? hmmm

NO, it IS, but it makes sense, because chicks r cute.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Personally, I would not use such a term to describe a lady. But then again, I would use the word dickhead to describe some members of my own gender.

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

Personally, I would not use such a term to describe a lady.
But then again, I would use the word dickhead to describe some members of my own gender.

I 've never done either; that is non-descriptively illogical; unserviceable.

Something else that I avoid
is to begin a sentence with a conjunction; that converts it into a sentence fragment.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Well, that really is one of my points. The genitals are as meaningful as the arms or eyes. But, culturally, boy, what a load they carry.

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@Eorl,

Good question.

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@Eorl,

I will confess that I have thought of many women as c. I will say that they were always aggressively nasty and dismissive of others. Bitch just does not do.

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@plainoldme,

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Well, that really is one of my points. The genitals are as meaningful as the arms or eyes. But, culturally, boy, what a load they carry.

No POM, genitals are where it is at.

Scientifically speaking, we exist for the sole purpose of reproducing. That is how evolution works, species that are successful at reproduction survive. Species that don't reproduce continue.

Arms and eyes are great... but they only exist because they help keep the genitals safe and fed until they do the one real thing that is important in nature.

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@Eorl,

When a man is called a dick, he might be stupid, he might be selfish.

When I think of a woman being called a C, she is not really stupid but she does act in a selfish way. She is strident and forceful. In other words, she is acting like a man is supposed to act but in a more nasty way.

BTW, if we regard the meaning as a little different, remember there is such a thing as idiolect, the language of the individual.

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@engineer,

Good point. A "swear," as children say, is the product of emotion.

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@plainoldme,

If you are going to spell out the word "dick", then you should also spell out the word "****".

There is an obvious double standard here.

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@Intrepid,

I totally disagree with David's campaign: there are far too many American accents to use phonetic English.

Ever hear that satire on how many ways the product of these letters -- TIRE -- as they would be pronounced in the northern Mid-West can be used? Wish I had it at hand. My older son probably knows it by heart.

Now, David, can you come back to discussing swears?

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@OmSigDAVID,

Women use the word dickhead obliquely, as in, "He is thinking with his other head."

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