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Iran's Crisis of Civilization: A Baha'i Perspective

 
 
Reply Sat 18 Jul, 2009 04:47 pm
Iran's crisis of civilization will be resolved neither by blind imitation of an obviously defective Western culture nor by retreat into medieval ignorance which often seems to be the direction taken by religious and political elites in Iran. The answer to the dilemma faced by Iran was enunciated on the very threshold of the crisis of modernity in the late 19th century, in the clearest and most compelling language, by a distinguished Son of Iran Who is today honoured in every continent of the world, but sadly not in the land of His birth--except by a religious minority now referred to by Iranian political and religious authorities as heretical.

Persia's poetic genius captures the irony of the position of this religious minority: "I searched the wide world over for my Beloved, while my Beloved was waiting for me in my own home." The world's appreciation of Bah?'u'll?h, the Founder of the Baha'i Faith, came perhaps most explicitly into focus on 29 May 1992, the centenary of His death, when the Brazilian Chamber of Deputies met in solemn session to pay tribute to Him, to His teachings and to the services rendered to humanity by the community He founded. On that occasion, the Speaker of the Chamber and spokespersons from every party rose, successively, to express their profound admiration of One who was described in their addresses as the Author of "the most colossal religious work written by the pen of a single Man", a message that "reaches out to humanity as a whole, without petty differences of nationality, race, limits or belief".

One of the most appalling afflictions, in terms of its tragic consequences, has been the slander of Bah?'u'll?h's Cause perpetrated by that privileged caste to whom Persia's masses had been taught to look for guidance in spiritual matters. For over 150 years, every medium of public information-- pulpit, press, radio, television and even scholarly publication--has been perverted to create an image of the Bah?'? community and its beliefs that is grossly false and whose sole aim is to arouse popular contempt and antagonism. No calumny has been too vile; no lie too outrageous. At no point during those long years were the Baha'is, the victims of this vilification, given an opportunity, however slight, to defend themselves and or to provide the facts that would have exposed such calculated poisoning of the public mind.

Ruling elites can make no more serious error than to imagine that the power they have managed to arrogate to themselves provides an enduring bulwark against the relentless tides of historical change. Today, in Iran, as everywhere throughout the world, these tides roll in with insistent urgency and tumultuous force. They are not merely at the door of the house, but they rise up irresistibly through its floors. They cannot be diverted. They will not be denied, perhaps not today but tomorrow---for tomorrow is another day.-Ron Price, Tasmania
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kynaston
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jul, 2009 10:45 pm
@RonPrice cv,
If Iran were Baha'i it would be a different country, as would the UK and the US be different countries if they were Christian. Meanwhile, we live in the world we live in, and our politicians have to balance the interests of the businesses that finance them with the opinions of the voters who could turn them out if they had any sense. What - apart from converting to your (doubtless excellent) faith would you have them - and us - do now?
RonPrice cv
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jul, 2009 11:08 pm
@kynaston,
The Prime Minister Gordon Brown has underlined the UK government?s concern over the seven Bah??? leaders being detained in Iran. His response was a start, I thought. The answer is complex, though.-Ron
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Mr Brown?s remarks were made at a meeting which took place this afternoon at the Prime Minister?s office in the Houses of Parliament, attended by Lembit ?pik, MP for Montgomeryshire ? who is Chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Friends of the Bah???s group ? and a delegation of three Bah???s, including two members of the national governing council of the Bah??? Faith in the United Kingdom.

It was the first ever meeting between a UK Prime Minister and representatives of the Bah??? community, which was established in Britain in 1898.

The prisoners ? five men and two women ? were arrested in spring 2008. Prior to their arrest they were members of an informal committee looking after the affairs of Iran?s 300,000 strong Bah??? community, the country?s largest non-Muslim religious minority. Charges against the seven have been reported in government-controlled mass media as ?espionage for Israel?, ?insulting religious sanctities? and ?propaganda against the Islamic republic?. A further accusation of ?spreading corruption on earth? has also been cited.

For more than a year, the seven have been detained in Tehran?s notorious Evin prison without charge or access to their legal counsel, the Nobel laureate Dr Shirin Ebadi. Expectations that a trial would take place earlier this week were not realised. Some 30 other Bah???s are currently in prison in Iran.

The Bah??? delegation was led by Dr Kishan Manocha, Secretary of the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bah???s of the United Kingdom. Also present were the Honourable Barney Leith, Director of Diplomatic Relations for the UK Bah??? community, and Mrs Bahar Tahzib. Mrs Tahzib ? originally from Iran, but now living in Sussex ? shared with the Prime Minister her first hand experience of religious persecution. Her father Yusuf Subhani was executed in Iran for being a Bah??? in June 1980. Her uncle, Mr Jamaloddin Khanjani, is one the seven detained Bah??? leaders in Iran.

?My uncle is 75 years old and he has been kept in unsuitable conditions for more than a year,? Mrs Tahzib told the Prime Minister. ?This is clearly a cause of great concern for the family and their wish is for a fair trial.?

?I was very touched by the Prime Minister?s genuine expressions of sympathy and concern,? said Mrs Tahzib after the meeting.

?We expressed our gratitude to the Prime Minister for the government?s ongoing support of our persecuted co-religionists in Iran,? added Dr Manocha, ?and we particularly thanked Mr Brown for his personal support and understanding. We raised with him the need for the seven Bah??? leaders to be released immediately ? and that if Iran refuses to do this, a public trial must be held that respects internationally recognized trial standards.?

?Recent events in Iran have clearly demonstrated to the world the methods utilized by the government ? particularly the manipulation of the judiciary process, to arbitrarily impose its will on those it declares to be its enemies,? said Mr ?pik. ?The examples of the case of Roxana Saberi, the protestors picked up on the streets, in their homes and hospital beds, and the arrests of foreign and domestic journalists, among others, illustrate a pattern of arbitrary arrest, coercion, false confessions, baseless charges, and summary judgments.?

?The persecution of the Bah???s in Iran is a matter of religious prejudice and has nothing to do with state security. The seven ? along with the 30 other Bah???s currently in prison in Iran ? are being held solely because of their religious beliefs. Their imprisonment and impending trial are part of a systematic effort to dismantle the Bah??? leadership as part of a larger process to destroy the Bah??? community in Iran,? said Dr Manocha.
kynaston
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 12:49 am
@RonPrice cv,
Okay - it's a rather different point from the one you started with, but is there a petition or such, so that we can do something?
RonPrice cv
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 09:58 am
@kynaston,
Go to the official international Baha'i site at: bahai.org and become more familiar with the Baha'i stuation in Iran and the nature of the Baha'i Faith--that is my first suggestion.-Ron in Tasmania:)
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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 01:55 pm
@RonPrice cv,
RonPrice;66078 wrote:
Iran's crisis of civilization will be resolved neither by blind imitation of an obviously defective Western culture nor by retreat into medieval ignorance which often seems to be the direction taken by religious and political elites in Iran. The answer to the dilemma faced by Iran was enunciated on the very threshold of the crisis of modernity in the late 19th century, in the clearest and most compelling language, by a distinguished Son of Iran Who is today honoured in every continent of the world, but sadly not in the land of His birth--except by a religious minority now referred to by Iranian political and religious authorities as heretical.

Persia's poetic genius captures the irony of the position of this religious minority: "I searched the wide world over for my Beloved, while my Beloved was waiting for me in my own home." The world's appreciation of Bah?'u'll?h, the Founder of the Baha'i Faith, came perhaps most explicitly into focus on 29 May 1992, the centenary of His death, when the Brazilian Chamber of Deputies met in solemn session to pay tribute to Him, to His teachings and to the services rendered to humanity by the community He founded. On that occasion, the Speaker of the Chamber and spokespersons from every party rose, successively, to express their profound admiration of One who was described in their addresses as the Author of "the most colossal religious work written by the pen of a single Man", a message that "reaches out to humanity as a whole, without petty differences of nationality, race, limits or belief".

One of the most appalling afflictions, in terms of its tragic consequences, has been the slander of Bah?'u'll?h's Cause perpetrated by that privileged caste to whom Persia's masses had been taught to look for guidance in spiritual matters. For over 150 years, every medium of public information-- pulpit, press, radio, television and even scholarly publication--has been perverted to create an image of the Bah?'? community and its beliefs that is grossly false and whose sole aim is to arouse popular contempt and antagonism. No calumny has been too vile; no lie too outrageous. At no point during those long years were the Baha'is, the victims of this vilification, given an opportunity, however slight, to defend themselves and or to provide the facts that would have exposed such calculated poisoning of the public mind.

Ruling elites can make no more serious error than to imagine that the power they have managed to arrogate to themselves provides an enduring bulwark against the relentless tides of historical change. Today, in Iran, as everywhere throughout the world, these tides roll in with insistent urgency and tumultuous force. They are not merely at the door of the house, but they rise up irresistibly through its floors. They cannot be diverted. They will not be denied, perhaps not today but tomorrow---for tomorrow is another day.-Ron Price, Tasmania


I believe the general thought of the fundamentalists there is that any non-muslim belief is false and is thus against the will of god (allah). Any perversions of the Baha'i faith pale in comparison of the perversions of the Jewish faith. It has been circulated that the Jews require the blood of a gentile for the celebration of a jewish holiday, however this is a completely false and malicious lie meant to degrade and slander the jewish faith.

Even Christians are often seen as infidels.

The problem as I see it is religious fundamentalism has stifled progress, censored intellectualism, produces propaganda and hate speech, and corrupted the very government that is supposed to serve it's people. Many of the people are medieval in sentiment. This is a dangerous cocktail for violence and unrest. This religious fundamentalism is the very thing that has prevented the free exchange of ideas necessary for a stable society.The difference between the western world and the middle east is that the western world has already had it's ENLIGHTENMENT period and the middle east has not.

Despite their best efforts, new and radical ideas are being leaked into the country by foreigners and through the internet. Once the people start thinking for themselves it is only a matter of time before the current regime is ousted.
RonPrice cv
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 04:06 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Thanks, Fatal_Freedoms. As you say regarding the general thought of the fundamentalists and non-muslim beliefs, your statement is in the right ballpark in my view. As far as which religions are subject to the worst perversions is concerned, I won't quibble with you on that. The Jews have suffered for 2000 years in relation to such perversions. The Baha'is with their world centre in Israel, I have often felt, have an understanding and sympathetic milieux for their world religion, in part at least due to this fact, this history of religious prejudice.

When you say that "the problem of religious fundamentalism has stifled progress, censored intellectualism, produced propaganda and hate speech, and corrupted the very government that is supposed to serve it's people," I am with you all the way. "Many of the people are medieval in sentiment," for sure.

I liked the point you made about: "The difference between the western world and the middle east is that the western world has already had it's ENLIGHTENMENT period and the middle east has not." Excellent--I've often said/written the same thing.

"Despite the best efforts on the part of those with medieval attitudes, new and radical ideas are being leaked into the country by foreigners and through the internet. Once the people start thinking for themselves it is only a matter of time before the current regime is ousted."-Amen, brother.-Ron
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kynaston
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jul, 2009 10:53 pm
@RonPrice cv,
I believe the key point is that it is supposed to be a Muslim belief that Muhammad was the last prophet, so there cannot be others after him. Jews and Christians are tolerated, because Islam comprehends them. The BBC has been giving some publicity to the current iniquity, I'm glad to say. As a known supporter of Iran here I shall certainly write some letters to some key people, for a start. All regimes are subject to international pressure, quack as they may. My MP is a man of some influence, for a start: I shall get onto him too. Good luck!
RonPrice cv
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jul, 2009 11:09 pm
@kynaston,
Thanks, kynaston. You are an unusual person to offer your support to the Baha'i Cause after only a brief introduction on the internet. I wish you well in all your efforts personally and professionally.-Ron Price, Australia
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Carico
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 05:01 am
@RonPrice cv,
RonPrice;66078 wrote:
Iran's crisis of civilization will be resolved neither by blind imitation of an obviously defective Western culture nor by retreat into medieval ignorance which often seems to be the direction taken by religious and political elites in Iran. The answer to the dilemma faced by Iran was enunciated on the very threshold of the crisis of modernity in the late 19th century, in the clearest and most compelling language, by a distinguished Son of Iran Who is today honoured in every continent of the world, but sadly not in the land of His birth--except by a religious minority now referred to by Iranian political and religious authorities as heretical.

Persia's poetic genius captures the irony of the position of this religious minority: "I searched the wide world over for my Beloved, while my Beloved was waiting for me in my own home." The world's appreciation of Bah?'u'll?h, the Founder of the Baha'i Faith, came perhaps most explicitly into focus on 29 May 1992, the centenary of His death, when the Brazilian Chamber of Deputies met in solemn session to pay tribute to Him, to His teachings and to the services rendered to humanity by the community He founded. On that occasion, the Speaker of the Chamber and spokespersons from every party rose, successively, to express their profound admiration of One who was described in their addresses as the Author of "the most colossal religious work written by the pen of a single Man", a message that "reaches out to humanity as a whole, without petty differences of nationality, race, limits or belief".

One of the most appalling afflictions, in terms of its tragic consequences, has been the slander of Bah?'u'll?h's Cause perpetrated by that privileged caste to whom Persia's masses had been taught to look for guidance in spiritual matters. For over 150 years, every medium of public information-- pulpit, press, radio, television and even scholarly publication--has been perverted to create an image of the Bah?'? community and its beliefs that is grossly false and whose sole aim is to arouse popular contempt and antagonism. No calumny has been too vile; no lie too outrageous. At no point during those long years were the Baha'is, the victims of this vilification, given an opportunity, however slight, to defend themselves and or to provide the facts that would have exposed such calculated poisoning of the public mind.

Ruling elites can make no more serious error than to imagine that the power they have managed to arrogate to themselves provides an enduring bulwark against the relentless tides of historical change. Today, in Iran, as everywhere throughout the world, these tides roll in with insistent urgency and tumultuous force. They are not merely at the door of the house, but they rise up irresistibly through its floors. They cannot be diverted. They will not be denied, perhaps not today but tomorrow---for tomorrow is another day.-Ron Price, Tasmania


The crisis in Iran will only be solved on judgment day. Wink But I'm sure they won't like the outcome very well. Wink
RonPrice cv
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 12:07 pm
@Carico,
That was an interesting comment, Carico. The eschatological-theological implications, alone, of your comment could fill volumes. For me: it's time for breakfast or, I should say, brunch.-Ron in Tasmania;)
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David cv
 
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Reply Fri 7 Aug, 2009 04:00 pm
@Carico,
Carico;66168 wrote:
The crisis in Iran will only be solved on judgment day. Wink But I'm sure they won't like the outcome very well. Wink


Muslims believe in Jesus (it's a required belief in fact), you know this yes? As accepting Jesus, by your own words, is all 1 has to do to be 'saved', what will they not like about the result of Judgment Day? Wink

By Christian logic, Muslims are saved and threw in an extra prophet for added insurance. :rollinglaugh:
RonPrice cv
 
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Reply Fri 7 Aug, 2009 04:22 pm
@David cv,
The question of salvation: in a Christian, Islamic or Baha'i sense is quite a complex theological question/subject. The topic can not really be properly treated in a small box at an internet site. I would say generally, though, from a Baha'i point of view that both belief and actions are required. Then the questions are: (a) belief in who and what and (b) what sorts of actions--when, where, why and how. -Ron Price, Tasmania:peace:
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