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Let's Agree On One Thing

 
 
Red cv
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 05:40 pm
@Freeman15,
Why would one's sex or race be an issue peach?
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 06:23 pm
@Red cv,
Red;36425 wrote:
Why would one's sex or race be an issue peach?


Affirmative action has reinforced the sterotype that women are weaker, and blacks need more opportunity handed to them. Even the military has different PT standards for women, how is there supposed to be equality in a civilization that gives ease of way to a race, class, religion, or sex? Don't ponder too long, the answer is, you can't.
wvpeach
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 06:30 pm
@92b16vx,
Red

The fact you live in Canada is showing.

The US is still a good old boys world .

Women have progressed to a certain point as have minorities, but all and all the good old boys club still runs the US.

To make matters worse many of the so called christian coalition vote as a unit in marriage. With many wifes believing they should vote for the same candidate as their husband. I have literally had dozens of women tell me they pay no attention to who is running for what. Their husband tells them who to vote for before they go to the polls.

The US and Canada are like different worlds in many many ways.

And believe me it is a long shot at best that either a woman or a minority would get voted into the presidency in the US.

Come to think of it, I doubt Mitt Romney has a chance either. Most christian coalition voters would never vote for a morman either because they think they are not christian, which of coarse is not true.

We're a very my stuff is better than yours kinda country and that includes our ideologies, color, social status, you name it. The USA is still a very prejudiced country. Just look at all the prejudice against Muslims in this country now.:dunno:
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mlurp
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 10:31 pm
@Freeman15,
Freeman15;35588 wrote:
With the exceptions of Giuliani and Thompson, at this point ANY republican in the race is better than those of the democratic field.

Agreed?

Ha, ha, ha your joking right. Not one is different from the other. People like you just don't get it even after voting 10 years or more do you? Now I am not attacking you. Just pointing out my opinion.
So NO we can't agree.
mlurp
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 10:33 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;36441 wrote:
Affirmative action has reinforced the sterotype that women are weaker, and blacks need more opportunity handed to them. Even the military has different PT standards for women, how is there supposed to be equality in a civilization that gives ease of way to a race, class, religion, or sex? Don't ponder too long, the answer is, you can't.


hey thanks for the links. I like to keep up on the issues.
Freeman15
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 10:38 pm
@mlurp,
mlurp;36514 wrote:
Ha, ha, ha your joking right. Not one is different from the other. People like you just don't get it even after voting 10 years or more do you? Now I am not attacking you. Just pointing out my opinion.
So NO we can't agree.


Ron Paul is different, as is Mike Huckabee (a misguided, but I believe good man). Obama will socialize the nation, as will Edwards. Hillary will continue the war, and Kuccinch would have us all using solar-powered cell-phones (though again, I believe him to be a good man). Oh, and ALL of them want to take away our firearms.

My list goes this way:

1. Ron Paul.
2. Any Libertarian
3. Anybody but the DNC (except Giuliani and Thompson, who are fascists who will take away my firearms).
Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 10:44 pm
@Freeman15,
The only way they will get them is if you let them. That includes legislation as well as selfdefence.
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mlurp
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 10:54 pm
@Freeman15,
Freeman15;36522 wrote:
Ron Paul is different, as is Mike Huckabee (a misguided, but I believe good man). Obama will socialize the nation, as will Edwards. Hillary will continue the war, and Kuccinch would have us all using solar-powered cell-phones (though again, I believe him to be a good man). Oh, and ALL of them want to take away our firearms.

My list goes this way:

1. Ron Paul.
2. Any Libertarian
3. Anybody but the DNC (except Giuliani and Thompson, who are fascists who will take away my firearms).

Glad you have a list. But that is just them talking. Tell me who you voted for in the Dem's take over and explain whay nothing they promised us has happened?
I say throw out the list. But that is IMHO........... What if no real Americans (middle class or lower) voted. that would send them a message. but change nothing! I want change. i want Big Business out of D.C. I want America to become the standard not the joke.
Freeman15
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 11:00 pm
@mlurp,
mlurp;36530 wrote:
Glad you have a list. But that is just them talking. Tell me who you voted for in the Dem's take over and explain whay nothing they promised us has happened?
I say throw out the list. But that is IMHO........... What if no real Americans (middle class or lower) voted. that would send them a message. but change nothing! I want change. i want Big Business out of D.C. I want America to become the standard not the joke.


Actually, I voted for Libertarian Jason Pratt (Libertarian) in 2006. I vote my conscience, it's the one thing I believe to be my civic duty.
mlurp
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:03 pm
@Freeman15,
I love Lewis Black. he is right on the money (unlike our elected officials, he just jokes about it. They steal it)
I didn't mean your vote isn't something to you or your civic duty.
I mean that the vote is the governments way of making us think we are doing something right.
Like I asked what has the Dem's done that they promised? It won't be any different no matter who is elected.
I joked about a movie from the shooters point of view. But somehow no matter who (party) is elected the same results are done. There isn't a difference between the two main parties.
And when has any third party won election?
I felt I was doing my civic duty when I fell for the lie about the Gulf of Ton kin.
So I enlisted in the Army, went Airborne and re-enlisted to become a grunt.
I have voted sense returning in 1968. I'm slow but it isn't a civic duty to put in power things that have taken this country from where it was to were it is now!
I would not fight for this country again. Nor am I going to waste my time in a booth B.S. myself.
Now if nobody voted then I would join in and maybe something good would come from it.
Besides Bush is going to attack Iran, and declare Marshall Law. He will be King forever.
But I do respect your dedication
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wvpeach
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:09 pm
@mlurp,
I'm with you on this!:thumbup:


mlurp;36530 wrote:
Glad you have a list. But that is just them talking. Tell me who you voted for in the Dem's take over and explain whay nothing they promised us has happened?
I say throw out the list. But that is IMHO........... What if no real Americans (middle class or lower) voted. that would send them a message. but change nothing! I want change. i want Big Business out of D.C. I want America to become the standard not the joke.
mlurp
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:50 pm
@wvpeach,
Awwww a real person with real thoughts posting after me. Thanks that made my day. He, he, he.
We agree and for the same reasons I bet.
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 01:53 pm
@mlurp,
mlurp;36517 wrote:
hey thanks for the links. I like to keep up on the issues.


I try to update them according to the political climate, the ones in there now are old, but still good info.
mlurp
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 02:25 pm
@92b16vx,
Thanks but I stay away from popular sites. the wacko's have a way of using these popular sites to download nasties. i just restored my machine last week and lost a lot of good stuff. But I had backups. yet the time consumed isn't worth it to me.
And like I stated. I'm done doing any voting. And feel sorry for those who do vote because they are being fooled. How did Bush get in office? (I voted for him the first time, I am still getting over that mistake)
Electoral College over road the American desire for president and His brother's state could not count the votes right. Hummmmmm sounds like some one got fooled. It sure wasn't Bush. Then whom?

I watched men die for a lie. I took life for a lie. I suffer every day because of a lie. I am done. I did my duty. It is over for me because I made that choice.
I earned the right!!! Ask as many returning war vets if they plan to vote and whom for? bet you will be shocked! See they know the truth. Today instant news has opened their eyes. We didn't have that back when.
Respect a veteran. Hold them, cry with them and thank them.

But keep doing what your doing as others will use the links. I tried some but didn't like the site i saw so left. Nothing against your links or you.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 02:42 pm
@mlurp,
mlurp;36674 wrote:

But keep doing what your doing as others will use the links. I tried some but didn't like the site i saw so left. Nothing against your links or you.


The links to sunni insurgents, and Saudis aiding terrorist are from right wing warmonger sites, just to show some people that were saying they are our allies the truth, even from their own type of sites.
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wvpeach
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 03:06 pm
@mlurp,
mlurp

Thanks for your service to this country and I want to thank you for this honest post. I agree about the sad state we find this country in and our voting system.

I am 49 years old and did not make the mistake of voting for Bush even once:dunno: But that does not mean I was happy with kerry or Gore he was just the lessor of the two evils . I really believed Kerry at least would not send our soldiers to sense less death. I agree those elections were rigged or the american people are stupider than I thought they were.

I am going to do all I can to try to change this country before this next election , and like you if it is just the same old same old I am ready to give up. I am researching moving out of country if we don't pull our heads out of the sand.

But going to give it one more shot. Again thanks for a good post I enjoyed reading it.


mlurp;36674 wrote:
Thanks but I stay away from popular sites. the wacko's have a way of using these popular sites to download nasties. i just restored my machine last week and lost a lot of good stuff. But I had backups. yet the time consumed isn't worth it to me.
And like I stated. I'm done doing any voting. And feel sorry for those who do vote because they are being fooled. How did Bush get in office? (I voted for him the first time, I am still getting over that mistake)
Electoral College over road the American desire for president and His brother's state could not count the votes right. Hummmmmm sounds like some one got fooled. It sure wasn't Bush. Then whom?

I watched men die for a lie. I took life for a lie. I suffer every day because of a lie. I am done. I did my duty. It is over for me because I made that choice.
I earned the right!!! Ask as many returning war vets if they plan to vote and whom for? bet you will be shocked! See they know the truth. Today instant news has opened their eyes. We didn't have that back when.
Respect a veteran. Hold them, cry with them and thank them.

But keep doing what your doing as others will use the links. I tried some but didn't like the site i saw so left. Nothing against your links or you.
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scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 04:37 pm
@Freeman15,
Freeman15;35588 wrote:
With the exceptions of Giuliani and Thompson, at this point ANY republican in the race is better than those of the democratic field.

Agreed?


stay of that moonshine cowboy :thumbup:
Freeman15
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 04:40 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;36904 wrote:
stay of that moonshine cowboy :thumbup:


I prefer the ability to earn a living free of government stipulations to socialism. Maybe that's just me though.
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