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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2007 10:53 am
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wvpeach
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2007 11:03 am
@FedUpAmerican,
I agree totally fed up:thumbup:

One thing though. I am not sure our votes have meant anything for a long time.

The electorial college takes the force of our votes away.

Failing that just look at the election of 2000 . Didn't matter who won Bush was placed in office.

got a feeling our next president has already been picked and our votes won't make a difference.

But i heartedly agree, the america of our youth is gone. We are in a whole new ball game.
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tvsej
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2007 01:28 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
I too have to agree with you, I have posted a similar piece stating some of the same BS. Americans lack unity, we need to all stand together on the streets in every state and stop this nonsense before it is to late. If we did do that we would see a change real fast. No need for others to say it is not that easy, it is that easy if we all stand together, divided we are falling. someone else said something similar in another post.
FedUpAmerican
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2007 01:38 pm
@tvsej,
tvsej;33365 wrote:
Americans lack unity, we need to all stand together on the streets in every state and stop this nonsense before it is to late. If we did do that we would see a change real fast.


Funny that you should say that because I'll be in attendance at an anti-war rally this evening. Info can be had at: DUPAGE AGAINST WAR NOW

If anyone is in the Chicago area it starts at 6PM.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2007 01:52 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
**** standing together. WE don't deserve it.
tvsej
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2007 01:59 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
Well that is another way to look at it, I hadn't thought of that way until now. Interesting point, I would like to hear more please.
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tvsej
 
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Reply Fri 31 Aug, 2007 04:11 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;33377 wrote:
**** standing together. WE don't deserve it.


Well that is another way to look at it, I hadn't thought of that way until now. Interesting point, I would like to hear more please.
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Fri 31 Aug, 2007 06:38 am
@FedUpAmerican,
Greed happened to America.
westernmom
 
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Reply Fri 31 Aug, 2007 12:03 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;33901 wrote:
Greed happened to America.


Let's see, you who are complaining...

How many televisions are in your home? Is it air-conditioned? How many vehicles are parked in your driveway? When did you last go out to eat? Do you have cable or satellite? What toys are in your garage? What did you have for supper last night? How many meals did you eat yesterday? How many hours did you work last week?

Give me a break. Go visit the people of Costa Maya and tell them how bad you have it while living in the US. Better yet, go live there for awhile!
92b16vx
 
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Reply Fri 31 Aug, 2007 12:44 pm
@westernmom,
westernmom;33940 wrote:
Let's see, you who are complaining...

How many televisions are in your home? Is it air-conditioned? How many vehicles are parked in your driveway? When did you last go out to eat? Do you have cable or satellite? What toys are in your garage? What did you have for supper last night? How many meals did you eat yesterday? How many hours did you work last week?

Give me a break. Go visit the people of Costa Maya and tell them how bad you have it while living in the US. Better yet, go live there for awhile!


Who the **** are you? You think you know me? Bet I've been to more third world countries, and have seen more poverty than you ever will.

Greed IS what happened to America. Bury your head back in the sand while our expansionist government thins our national defenses and erodes our economy for a buck. Outsourcing of American jobs to foreign countries isn't because the commies in China, or telephone surveyors in the philipines are better, it's so American corporations can turn a bigger buck without having to pay American labors the wages needed to live at our standards. We're sitting in the desert turning tricks for Halliburton while they syphon off billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to make Iraq more stable so that our trillion dollar a year oil habit can be fed. Don't get self righteous on me because I see if for what it is.
tvsej
 
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Reply Fri 31 Aug, 2007 01:26 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;33948 wrote:
Who the *** are you? You think you know me? Bet I've been to more third world countries, and have seen more poverty than you ever will.

Greed IS what happened to America. Bury your head back in the sand while our expansionist government thins our national defenses and erodes our economy for a buck. Outsourcing of American jobs to foreign countries isn't because the commies in China, or telephone surveyors in the philipines are better, it's so American corporations can turn a bigger buck without having to pay American labors the wages needed to live at our standards. We're sitting in the desert turning tricks for Halliburton while they syphon off billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to make Iraq more stable so that our trillion dollar a year oil habit can be fed. Don't get self righteous on me because I see if for what it is.


Evertime my mom calls me here she has a problem from her end and she has to call the operator for assistance, she gets so pissed off because she says it is some person from India who can't speak english well enough to assist her. She ends up telling them to get someone who can speak to her and stop wasting her time and money of the GD telephone, she is 72 and works everyday, she is a psycologist. Your are right on with the whole post 92, I love you more and more, Just joking about the love thing. I really respect your wisdom and your worldly knowledge thus far, thanks for making it count.
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westernmom
 
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Reply Fri 31 Aug, 2007 02:01 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
I love the arguements on outsourcing...

Spouted by the same guy sitting there wanting $25 an hour with full benefits or he ain't gonna' work! He's also the same guy that runs down to shop at WalMart and then complains about products made overseas.

I'm not saying this is you, but if the shoe fits...

Now let's vote Pelosi in again so she can outsource a few more DelMonte jobs! Oh, and add Kerry to the pot!
92b16vx
 
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Reply Fri 31 Aug, 2007 02:06 pm
@westernmom,
westernmom;33960 wrote:
I love the arguements on outsourcing...

Spouted by the same guy sitting there wanting $25 an hour with full benefits or he ain't gonna' work! He's also the same guy that runs down to shop at WalMart and then complains about products made overseas.

I'm not saying this is you, but if the shoe fits...

Now let's vote Pelosi in again so she can outsource a few more DelMonte jobs! Oh, and add Kerry to the pot!


Are still making ASSumptions about me? tisk tisk.
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tvsej
 
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Reply Fri 31 Aug, 2007 02:11 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
good point, luckly I don't live in the land of fast food and Wal Mart anymore. A good quality product bought in Germany is made right here. Sure there is outsourcing here to for the guy who makes 25Euro an hour to bitch when he buys cheap **** but at least here you have a choice to buy **** if you want to. We almost have no made in America products left. Sad for our future, sure to get worse before it gets better.

I have been through Idaho many times going to Washinton from Montana, I can't remeber the name of that gorgeous lake CH... we stopped there evertime through to take in the breathtaking view. Miss the west mom.
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westernmom
 
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Reply Fri 31 Aug, 2007 02:24 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
Coeur d'Alene! It is beautiful. We live way south from there! We are in the southeastern area. But we live not far from Yellowstone, Jackson Hole, and Sun Valley so we have the best of both worlds!

We are in the heart of spud country here! While growing up we moved a lot and so have lived in some beautiful areas but we seem to enjoy it here the best!

I seen one of your posts that mentioned Roy, Mt. I lived there for a little while way back in the 50's. I was in third grade and went to a one room school house! My grandpa was in construction and they were building all of the roads backs then. Roy, Circle, all of those little towns....
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tvsej
 
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Reply Fri 31 Aug, 2007 02:37 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
Yeah, thats it Coeur d' Alene absolutly breath taking. I lived in Red Lodge not far from the Cook city entrance to Yellowstone. In winter we could rent snowmobiles and go through the pass to Yellowstone that was of course closed in winter to cars. All day adventure in the snow. I miss it a whole lot. Lived there almost 8 yrs.

I know that school house in Roy, it still stands, there isn't to many people living there still. A town in Montana is a considered town if there is a bar. Roy has one. Neat little town, our lawyer grew up there, maybe you guys went to school together. His dad still lives there in the same house his dad gave him. Lee is (guessing here) 46, 47 he has older syblings too. I think you said you where 49 don't hate me if I am wrong. Age with us is more touchy than with men it seems.
Thanks for the memory jog westernmom.
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FedUpAmerican
 
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Reply Fri 31 Aug, 2007 03:18 pm
@westernmom,
westernmom;33940 wrote:
Let's see, you who are complaining...

How many televisions are in your home? Is it air-conditioned? How many vehicles are parked in your driveway? When did you last go out to eat? Do you have cable or satellite? What toys are in your garage? What did you have for supper last night? How many meals did you eat yesterday? How many hours did you work last week?

Give me a break. Go visit the people of Costa Maya and tell them how bad you have it while living in the US. Better yet, go live there for awhile!


Freedom is a hell of a lot more than materialistic things. Over the last seven years Americans have lost quite a bit of their freedoms.
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Red cv
 
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Reply Fri 31 Aug, 2007 03:40 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
I agree regarding the issue of out sourcing, today companies seem to view everythng in terms of profit. Gone are the days when a Global company cared about it's employees or customers. Let's take back our right to have product support in English. I believe we will get those jobs back though, to often I become frustrated and have informed my bank, insurance etc if I need assistance and the person can't speak English I will take my business else where. They have all coughed up Canadian numbers, I can't articulate how frustrating it is to have a problem and the customer service rep in India or Pakistan can't speak english and talk from scripts. Yes it's cheap labour but the customer isn't going to put up with bad product service and that's what we are getting.

Freedom allows people to choose how they want to live their life, if you scorn a materialistic life style don't live one. We all have a choice on the path we follow, socialist and commies have the freedom to donate their surplus cash to third world charities or local ones. Society has become materialistic because of the breakdown of family and family values. The left scorn family values and our ideals. Today's current anything goes culture is the result of their ethos not mine. Blaming capitalism or us capitalist pigs is a smoke screen for their mea culpa. Forcing alternate life styles down our throats isn't galling enough but these same liberals force us to pay for their social experiments. That is why society has become so materialistic.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 31 Aug, 2007 10:14 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
"What happened to the America that I once loved?"

It doesn't sound as though you ever loved it. With lovers like you, who needs enemies?
kmchugh
 
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Reply Sat 1 Sep, 2007 05:29 am
@FedUpAmerican,
FedUpAmerican;33328 wrote:
What happened to the America that I once loved?
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