@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;57051 wrote:
1. or we're looking in the wrong ***ed country!
2. and again why did we wait until after 9/11 if he was such a threat? Because it wasn't about that and it never was. We went into Iraq for 3 reasons:
- To find WMDs
- To take Saddam out of power
- To "get 'em terrriss"
3. except we supported and helped these cruel dictators rise to power
4. Excuses? no they are not excuses they are the reasons the terrorists said they attacked us, but it largely goes ignored. Are they justified in their actions? No. The attacks are the result of bad foreign policy, by judging our actions i hope people will realize how bad our foreign policy really is and then we can change it. Yes they are angry at their leaders but they are angry at us for supporting their leaders.
5. You have yet to state a legitimate difference that the technology makes in foreign policy, so far all you've said is the today foreign entanglement is more "tempting" but that doesn't justify interventionism in the least.
6. That is a matter of corrupt governments.
7. well according to you it's their fault.
8. All people are essential just as stupid and greedy, the difference lies in the conditions one lives under.
1. We seem to have found something to agree on.
2. I've explained this. I'm satisfied that you can't agree.
3. As I stated, the leaders involved with aiding these people into power, had no ill intent toward the peoples of the nations effected.
4. I disagree with the terrorist. As I stated, the oil rich leaders have ignored the welfare of their constituents and blamed the west on their poverty. I never said the people were mad at their leaders. I said, their leaders lie to them about whose fault their problems are so some of them become terrorist and attack westerners. You and the terrorist may of course believe their lies. I will support the killing of the terrorist. You of course shall not be harmed. Unless you happen to be one of the terrorist's victims.
5. The major difference that the "founders" did not have to deal with, nor anticipate was attacks by organizations not working under orders from any particular government. Determining when and where to enter into conflict against an enemy that is not a government makes a nation attempting to protect itself open to all kinds of accusations.
As far as foreign policy in dealing with "governments" of other nations, has absolutely nothing to do with the conditions the people of those nations live in. "That" is between them and their government. Americans stand up to their government when ever they need to. Unhappy Arabs need to try that.
6. OK, so it's a matter of corrupt governments. No one can fix corrupt government better than the people. I don't particularly agree with your statement. I believe it's more like governments who either quietly support the actions of terrorist or are cowards.
7. Yes. It most certainly is.
8. My comments concerning stupidity and greed are directed thusly:
Greedy, filthy rich leaders who care nothing for their constituents and lie to the people concerning whose fault their dismal existence comes from.
Stupid people who fall, hook line and sinker into believing that anyone in the west actually "wants" them to live in poverty.
You continually bypass the comments I make concerning the fault of mid east poverty. Do not agree that it is the fault of the hoarding leaders of those nations? Do you insist that America or any other western nation may change their lives?