Police Confiscations

@RedOct,

This will get worse in the name of terrorism, the Pariot Act II has allowed big brother to enter our homes and lives with no warning or warrant necessary. Welcome to the land of the free, who is the criminal now? The police the government? Scary stuff!

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@RedOct,

RedOct;32757 wrote:

Wow. First, I need to ask if this is an original composition from your own research?

My father began as a beat cop on the streets of Oakland, CA after WWII. It was common knowledge at that time that the police would beat the hell out of the small time thugs that ran in the neighborhoods and confiscate their weapons and keep them for their own. No arrests or reports, just the promise that if they ever appeared in the neighborhood again they would get a more severe beating. It worked pretty well.

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@RedOct,

Besides, what's wrong with police seizings from drug dealers..?

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@socalgolfguy,

socalgolfguy;32988 wrote:

Besides, what's wrong with police seizings from drug dealers..?

Nothing, as long as they are proven to be drug dealers in a court of law, THEN they can seize all they want. Unfortunately under the Patriot Act, and RICO acts, we are guilty until proven innocent. The incremental disassembly of your freedom has begun.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

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@RedOct,

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The incremental disassembly of your freedom has begun.

When did it end on the last one? Didn't the same thing happen in WW2 when they rounded up the japanese. After the war was over they reverted back to business as usual.

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@Drnaline,

Drnaline;33008 wrote:

When did it end on the last one? Didn't the same thing happen in WW2 when they rounded up the japanese. After the war was over they reverted back to business as usual.

Except there's no one that isn't a power grabbing scumbag running for office, except Ron Paul. Power grabbing scumbags like what Bush has done to extend the government, and they aren't about to turn back the clock. We have let the government get to big, and have too much control over our lives. We need to do something to cut it back where it supposed to be.

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@RedOct,

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Except there's no one that isn't a power grabbing scumbag running for office, except Ron Paul.

He's running for president and he is not power grabbing, Hmmmm?

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@Drnaline,

Drnaline;33030 wrote:

He's running for president and he is not power grabbing, Hmmmm?

He doesn't want to run our lives. His whole platform is limiting the scope of government in our daily lives, and cutting out programs, and agencies that are bilking taxpayers billions of unnescessary dollars, no, he is not power hungry, we wants to return power to the states. The biggest problem we have had the last 50+ years are politicians that want more and more control over the populace. If he pulls a Bush, than you best bet your bottom dollar that I will be the first to want him run out of office.

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@RedOct,

It don't make sence to me. "He doesn't want to run our lives." so he wants to be president to he can run our lives. So if he were to reduce the government to levels he would prefer, who has all the power? POTUS is the answer, Hmmmm come to mind again.

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@Drnaline,

Drnaline;33054 wrote:

It don't make sence to me. "He doesn't want to run our lives." so he wants to be president to he can run our lives. So if he were to reduce the government to levels he would prefer, who has all the power? POTUS is the answer, Hmmmm come to mind again.

Politics seem way over your head, try a nice Disney movie or something.

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@RedOct,

Can't get around the fact that he is grabbing at power. He has you convinced it for you but all the while he is the one in the driving seat? If anything it's typical politics.

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@Drnaline,

Drnaline;33058 wrote:

Can't get around the fact that he is grabbing at power. He has you convinced it for you but all the while he is the one in the driving seat? If anything it's typical politics.

See, you think that the POTUS is a position of power, in that he, she, it, will be running your life. That's not how it works. That's not how it was made to work, and that's not how it was working. The federal government has been extended into our lives so far that people are institutionalized to think that it the way it is, you can't even comprehend what freedom means anymore. WHen you can, you will understand.

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@92b16vx,

92b16vx;33050 wrote:

He doesn't want to run our lives. His whole platform is limiting the scope of government in our daily lives, and cutting out programs, and agencies that are bilking taxpayers billions of unnescessary dollars, no, he is not power hungry, we wants to return power to the states. The biggest problem we have had the last 50+ years are politicians that want more and more control over the populace. If he pulls a Bush, than you best bet your bottom dollar that I will be the first to want him run out of office.

The fact of the matter is that the power brokers on both sides of the aisle will never allow any candidate that sincerely espouses less government waste to ever become POTUS.

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@socalgolfguy,

socalgolfguy;32987 wrote:

Wow. First, I need to ask if this is an original composition from your own research?

My father began as a beat cop on the streets of Oakland, CA after WWII. It was common knowledge at that time that the police would beat the hell out of the small time thugs that ran in the neighborhoods and confiscate their weapons and keep them for their own. No arrests or reports, just the promise that if they ever appeared in the neighborhood again they would get a more severe beating. It worked pretty well.

Those were the good old days of Law Enforcement, no reason to clog up county with petty bullsh-t if you can handle it better yourself. Today if a cop does that there will be one less good cop on the beat.
In Italy they do it just like that, get caught stealing the cops take you around the corner and beat the **** out of you. It works on the small crimes.

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@tvsej,

tvsej;33071 wrote:

Those were the good old days of Law Enforcement, no reason to clog up county with petty bullsh-t if you can handle it better yourself. Today if a cop does that there will be one less good cop on the beat.
In Italy they do it just like that, get caught stealing the cops take you around the corner and beat the **** out of you. It works on the small crimes.

I think it would work well today if not for cell phone cameras and the ACLU spoiling all their fun.

Problem is that one over-eager cop get caught and the whole system suffers including the law abiding public at large. I always believed that if you follow the law of the land, you have nothing to fear from the police. When YOU need them it's comforting to know they are there to PROTECT you and your rights.

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@socalgolfguy,

socalgolfguy;33065 wrote:

The fact of the matter is that the power brokers on both sides of the aisle will never allow any candidate that sincerely espouses less government waste to ever become POTUS.

It's a matter of fact that Bush and hte rest of the RINOs, and demorats thought their amnesty bill would fly through too if they put the pressure on. Thank goodness enough American people still remember what sovereignty means. With any luck an equal force will be sick of the neocon, and pseudo-socialist ruining of the nation.

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@92b16vx,

92b16vx;33059 wrote:

See, you think that the POTUS is a position of power, in that he, she, it, will be running your life. That's not how it works. That's not how it was made to work, and that's not how it was working. The federal government has been extended into our lives so far that people are institutionalized to think that it the way it is, you can't even comprehend what freedom means anymore. WHen you can, you will understand.

Yeah, let us sheep mow the grass and let the politics be handled by the big boys. Problem is you need us supposed sheeple to get him in there. All my imputs are valid, some of which Ron nor you can defend. I agree that Ron has been in a position of power for a long time and he has made some good choices. But he's not perfect or God's gift to the sheeple. He has seriously flawed ideas and untill he either changes them or gets ride of them he ain't got a chance. I wouldn't find it too hard to lean his way but not as it stands, and that holds true for most Americans.

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@Drnaline,

Drnaline;33130 wrote:

Yeah, let us sheep mow the grass and let the politics be handled by the big boys. Problem is you need us supposed sheeple to get him in there. All my imputs are valid, some of which Ron nor you can defend. I agree that Ron has been in a position of power for a long time and he has made some good choices. But he's not perfect or God's gift to the sheeple. He has seriously flawed ideas and untill he either changes them or gets ride of them he ain't got a chance. I wouldn't find it too hard to lean his way but not as it stands, and that holds true for most Americans.

The only reason his ideas are "seriously flawed", is because the sheeple can't live without their nanny state being responsible for them.

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@RedOct,

I don't need my government for ****. I pay for but i never use there services. I was refering to his foreign policy.

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