How many sons does God have?

All I want is a verse that states that God created the Jesus.

I have read your verses and NONE of them state that Jesus was created by God.

In fact, Jesus states that he is the beginning and the end.

So which is it?

[SIZE="3"]Well then as the bible says you see as though through a thick veil and have scales on your eyes. I cannot help you , you'll have to pray yourself for God to help you see. [/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]Well then as the bible says you see as though through a thick veil and have scales on your eyes. I cannot help you , you'll have to pray yourself for God to help you see. [/SIZE]

This is all I will give you now , read it again.

[SIZE="3"]Well then as the bible says you see as though through a thick veil and have scales on your eyes. I cannot help you , you'll have to pray yourself for God to help you see. [/SIZE]

Jesus said, "I and the Father are one."

Jesus said, "I and the Father are one."

The Bible is useful for teaching, rebuking, and correcting. You spew the doctrine that Jesus is not God. But remember, "I am the bread of life" "Before Abraham, I AM" and let's not forget that Jesus AND Jehovah created the world. Oh yeah and Jehovah created the world ALONE and BY HIMSELF.

Your beliefs look good at first until you get to the fine details. Then, it is clear that your doctrine is only a wolf in sheeps clothing. You use the scapegoat that I need to pray and have God open my eyes. I tell you this, I see the Bible clearly and there is no doubt in my mind that Jesus claimed to be God. Your beliefs are built on a sanding foundation. Mine are built on a rock and are congruent with God's word.

Well JesusDiedForU, this is the same person who if I understand her would say that abortion is ok because the spirit does not enter the body until birth. Now I know that is not Biblical, yet this is what she believes. I also believe she sees nothing wrong with a doctor inserting a knife opening a passage way to allow the vacuum tube through the back of an unborn childs neck to suck out its brain allowing it's head to be crushed for a late term abortion.
According to the Old Testament, if a man strikes a woman and kills her, or her unborn child that man should be put to death. Yet she does not believe that either. In her belief, the Bible is full of counterdictions and errors, so her Holy Spirit tells her the way things should be. And even if her Holy Spirit counterdicts the Bible thats ok, because she believes the Bible is full of errors and counterdictions. So from my read on this, she has a belief system which does not always agree with Scripture. It appears to me, she agrees with the Bible when it agrees with her politically, yet if it does not, she will receive new knowledge from the Holy Spirit. And of course, that knowledge almost always agrees with the Democratic partys stand on abortion. See unless you are really grounded in Scriptures, even murder can be justified by some.

Campbell you are condemning me my brother in Christ.

I hope you know what you are doing ?

For every idle word out of your mouth you will be called to account for.

I hope you are willing and able to give account of yours words when you stand before Christ our Lord in judgment.

I happen to know that God and Christ love me very much. That is enough for me. I need nothing else.

You do realize campbell that "GOD " is a generic term? That the name of our creator is not GOD?

Psalm 82 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty ; he judgeth among the [SIZE="4"]gods[/SIZE]...... Notice the plural gods


John 10:34 Jesus said Is it not written in your law that I said [SIZE="4"]ye are Gods? [/SIZE]If he called them gods to whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

Say ye of him [SIZE="4"]whom the father has sanctified and sent unto the world,[/SIZE] thou blasphemeth because I said I am the son of God. ......notice again the plural gods and these are the words of jesus himself. [SIZE="4"] Notice also in Jesus own words that The Father sanctified him and sent him into the world. [/SIZE] Not the other way around!


And how many sons of Gods are there Campbell? No way of counting but it appears that in genesis 6:1 there are many

Genesis 6:2 the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair and took them wifes all of which they chose.

Campbell you really have to do some extensive study with Gods help to learn that the English translation of the bible leaves much to be desired.

The word God is often used in our english translation where the word Lord, ruler, official would have been used in the original greek and hebrew.

So I agree Christ Jesus is Lord, is ruler,[SIZE="4"] is a God [/SIZE], but he [SIZE="4"]is not the one true God .[/SIZE] Christ is not the Father Yewah. Christ is a son as you and I are sons and daughters of God and Christ was sanctified to die for our sins a sacrifice for many. And 1st Corinthians tells us that when Jesus finishes this task he will turn the whole thing back over to the one real God the great I am Yewah .The Father , the one who's name we probably still do not know.

Read the entire first chapter of Hebrews its a love letter to Jesus and explains that he was chosen by the creator to serve the purpose he did and that has set him above all of us. But Christ is not God.

I am sad now. It is really sad, that satan has been so able to distort the Holy word in the English language.

WVPeach I am not condemning you, I am just repeating your own statements.

You said abortion is not a voting problem for you. Because on post 31 you said the unborn child is just flesh until it's actual birth.

On post 142 you said you could show me hundreds of counterdictions in the Bible. I'm just pointing our what you have already stated. So another words, no murder has taken place before birth.

I said your belief system does not always agree with Scripture. And then gave the example where Scripture speaks about the two men that were fighting. One of them strikes a woman and kills either her, or her unborn child.
As a result, the Bible clearly states that mans life will be required.
You said, I DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY. Another words you donot agree with what is clearly stated. When Jehovah said He made the earth alone and by Himself, you cannot agree with His statement, again, another departure from the Scriptures because of your belief system. If you can't agree with Jehovahs bold statement, then either the Bible is wrong, or your belief system is wrong. Either way, it's what you have been saying and it's what I have been pointing out. So how is it that you saying I am condemning you? I'm just pointing out what you have already stated?


I said when the Holy Spirit tells you something about abortion, it appears only to agree with the stand of the Democratic party. TRUE or FALSE

WVpeach,

Do you remember the INSPIRED words of Paul.

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness

Your beliefs are like a sheep in wolves clothing.

Jesus IS God.

Campbell and died for you if you want to have further discussions i suggest we start with you two answering at least one question at a time. Anybody who reads this thread can see that I have answered many questions and spent considerable time giving you scriptures to back them up.

While you two like a broken record keep returning to Dogma you have learned from the traditions of mankind.

So if you want to talk show some good faith from now one. I will answer on question for you and then would like you two to answer one question.



The question I would like answerd now is the one I asked way back in the beginning of this thread and you never answered it.

[SIZE="4"] Who are the other gods spoken of in the bible? [/SIZE]

I answered that question long ago. Anyone that is born into Gods kingdom. All who are born into Gods relm are Gods. We are not equal to the Father, yet we will have eternal existance in His Kingdom. And this includes all that followed God even before the time of Christ. When the Father stated there will be no God formed before Him and no God formed after Him, He was speaking of a God of His equal. We who are born into His kingdom are His severants, and we will serve at His pleasure. A god is a person who has supreme value, and that is what all humans will have if they have been born into God's Kingdom.

Well lets see I voted Reagan twice and bush senior , have been registered as two things in my life. First a Republican for about 12 years. Then I switched to independent. I have never been a Democrat . In fact John Kerry and Billy Carter are the two Democrat's I voted for . Kerry because I could see from a mile away after Bush's first term that he was a fake Christian with smelly rotten fruit.

This election I may not even vote. I can feel it God is saying its time to really come out of the world and elections do not matter.

Campbell you really do not have a clue what you are talking about. LOL:dunno:
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[SIZE="3"] But the truth is all that matters so I needed to say it just for the record. [/SIZE]