Iranian Offical caught in Iraq? Yup

Evidence? Other than a handful of captures. Surely 150k + US troops would have caught plenty if it was an invasion.

You want evidence? This from a group of people (ron paul supporters) who claim the CIA/FBI lies about breaking up terror plots with absolutely no proof?

Well, the link I posted to start this thread is one, that's an Elite Guard officer in Iraq transporting weapons that would have killed us troops and Iraqi civilians. I would say that's proof enough and I've already linked it

"Iran's Elite guard has invaded Iraq" LOL im sure the right-wing would have been using this to their advantage,if this was the case,they are dying to bomb the shite out of Iran.

So I guess thousands of college kids going to Mexico to get wasted on tequila is an "invasion" of Mexico? lol

I guess in a democracy even as messed up as Iraq has a "your innocence till proven guilty."

It is a crazy concept huh?

Proof enough to substantiate an invasion? So our supply of Israel with weapons means we've invaded Lebanon?

Oh, and we don't claim the FBI makes up terror plot difusings, we simply ask for proof from them, and do not recieve it.

Who claimed that? The problem with your ilk is that you want to associate everyone that supports Ron Paul with the looneys. I bet I could find quite a few neonazis that voted for Bush, does that make you a nazi?

I wouldn't vote for Bush again, although I agree with 80% of his stated policies

and American kids going to Mexico to spend money is one thing

the Iranian caught in Iraq wasn't looking for a donkey show

now in response to others

we sold Arms to the Israeli government, who uses them in defense of their country. What Iran is doing here is a bit different.

How so? Iran sells weapons to the Sh'ia militia, who use them to defend their country against Americans and Sunni militias. It IS IN NO WAY DIFFERENT, you need only replace names.

We sold chemical weapons to Saddam and he used them to gas innocent people, your point?

So true but no proof will keep the likes of freeman15 quite for long. If nothing else he will point out he doesn't like the position you placed the link. lol

When intellectual, fact-based arguments fail, simply hurl accusations and rhetoric. Typical neocon response.

Lol, yea, no need for proof of wrong doings when we have another pre-emptive war to start with the evil islamic empire huh? Neocons, lapping it up since '00.

In case you guys haven't grasped this yet, BushCo™, and his out of control neocon war machine caused the greatest damage to the republican party in the history of American politics.

exactly, it's very similar to what the Dem's do

"I mean, you don't have any proof, besides the proof you already posted which I'm ignoring"

The government has declassified sensistive material much quicker then they did pre 911, and when that evidence is shown the cynical American just disregards it as lies. I wonder where the proof is that their lying?

Even when Bin Laden himself makes a video saying he's going to kill Americans they don't believe it

Post something that says something other than "alleged", or "suspected of" and you'll have your golden goose.

"The Iranian officer was allegedly involved in transporting roadside bombs, including armor-piercing explosively formed penetrators, or EFPs, into Iraq, according to a military statement."

Allegedly is not "proof".

With this guys proof will come. Give it time. The wheels of government turn very slowly. Oh you knew that too.
If any of you can tell me what is a Necon? Seems some of you hurl remarks without any facts also.

A neoconservative is a person who believes in the use of US hegemonic power to advance American policy abroad, especially through military force. Neocons denounce dissent, extol corporatism, and believe in a strong central authority of government, most subscribe to the "unitary executive theory". In a word, they're fascists.

I am not a "neocon" fool. Nor am I fascist. so I believe differently than you. That makes me nothing more than a free America fool! Maybe this doesn't go here but seems I can't find the Gen. Petaeus posts. But it goes with this thread. But you will find something to say it is a lie or show mor eproof. lool You funny freeman15.

Petraeus says Iran stoking Iraq violence By Dean Yates
2 hours, 10 minutes ago

EAST OF BAQUBA, Iraq (Reuters) - The U.S. military commander in Iraq has stepped up accusations that Iran was stoking violence in Iraq and said Tehran's ambassador to Baghdad was a member of the Revolutionary Guards Qods force.

Washington accuses the force, the elite unit of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, of inciting bloodshed in Iraq and of training and equipping militias who have attacked U.S. troops.

General David Petraeus, speaking at a U.S. military base about 30 km (20 miles) from the Iranian border on Saturday, said Iran was giving advanced weaponry to militias in Iraq.

"They are responsible for providing the weapons, the training, the funding and in some cases the direction for operations that have indeed killed U.S. soldiers," Petraeus told a small group of reporters when asked if the Iranian government was responsible for killing U.S. troops.

"There is no question about the connection between Iran and these components, (the) attacks that have killed our soldiers."

Iran dismissed Petraeus's comments as "baseless."

In August President George W. Bush, already at odds with Iran over its nuclear program, said attacks on U.S. troops with Iranian-supplied weapons were increasing and he had told commanders in Iraq to "confront Tehran's murderous activities."

Since then, U.S. military officers have repeatedly presented what they say is evidence of Iranian-produced arms, including the particularly deadly explosively formed projectile (EFP) bombs, being used against U.S. soldiers.

"The ambassador is a Qods force member," Petraeus said of Hassan Kazemi-Qomi, Iran's envoy to Baghdad. He did not say how he knew this but appeared to suggest that Kazemi-Qomi was not under the U.S. military spotlight because he was a diplomat.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini told a news conference: "His remarks are not new and what he said was in the line with the previous accusations against Iran."

Tehran routinely denies U.S. accusations that it plays a role in Iraq's violence, as well as Western allegations its nuclear program is aimed at developing atomic weapons.

Bush has said he is committed to diplomacy to resolve the dispute over Iran's nuclear program but he has not ruled out taking military action.

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Petraeus said Iran was supplying advanced rocket-propelled grenades, shoulder-fired "Stinger-like" air defence missiles, components to make EFPs and 240 mm rockets to militias in Iraq.

Petraeus also suggested there was an Iranian link in the assassination of two provincial governors in southern Iraq in August. Both were killed by roadside bombs.

"They are implicated in the assassination of some governors in the southern provinces," he said.

Kazemi-Qomi has twice met U.S. ambassador Ryan Crocker in Baghdad this year for landmark talks on ways to stabilize Iraq. The discussions have made little headway, with both sides accusing each other over the violence in the country.

The U.S. military, which has poured 30,000 extra soldiers into Iraq to try to stem the sectarian warfare between Iraq's majority Shi'ite and minority Sunni Arabs, says the troop "surge" has helped reduce some of the killing.

But the government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has failed to push through legislation to reconcile the country's warring communities -- laws which are vital to any long-term reduction in the violence.

Eight people were killed in three separate bombings in Baghdad on Sunday.

The U.S. embassy said a joint U.S.-Iraqi committee reviewing diplomatic security after last month's shooting involving the Blackwater security firm met for the first time on Sunday.

At least 11 people were killed in the September 16 shooting. Blackwater said its guards responded lawfully to an attack, but Iraq's government said they opened fire randomly into traffic.

The joint commission will put forward proposals which aim to ensure that security firms guarding U.S. officials "do not endanger public safety," the embassy statement said.


Petraeus says Iran stoking Iraq violence - Yahoo! News

stepped up accusations

Washington accuses the force

U.S. military officers have repeatedly presented what they say is evidence of Iranian-produced arms

They are implicated in the assassination

with both sides accusing each other over the violence

also suggested there was an Iranian link

You do realize, that even if elements in Iran are supplying weapons to forces in Iraq, Saudi is financing the ooposition, shi'ites v sunni. And the people of Iran are going to be the ones paying the price when we launch strikes against targets in Iran, now what do you think this is going to do to the fund raising, and recruiting for terrorist forces in the region?