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If Jesus was God ...

 
 
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jan, 2008 10:43 pm
@Reagaknight,
As stated explicitly in the Bible:

[Eph:4:6]-"One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all."


And If Jesus explicitly said:

[John:5:37]-"And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape."

[SIZE="2"]Then How can Jesus be God !!?[/SIZE]
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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Fri 1 Feb, 2008 03:34 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;52440 wrote:
Judaism is older than Buddhism, doesn't make Buddhism a branch of Judaism. How does it not matter what Muslims believe? That's ridiculous.


Buddhists don't believe in the same god as jews. Nor do thier holy texts derive from the talmud or the torah.
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Numpty
 
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Reply Fri 1 Feb, 2008 04:47 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;52335 wrote:
As there is only ONE GOD, there is only One Religion. Islam is the preserved pure religion of all authentic prophets sent by ALLAH (GOD). Islam means the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God).

Therefore, Islam is not a new religion but the final culmination and fulfillment of the same basic truth that ALLAH (God) revealed through all His prophets to every people. It is not just a personal religion but a complete way of living.

"Not a single messenger did We (Allah) send before you (Muhammad) without this inspiration sent by Us to him - that there is no god but I, therefore worship and serve Me." [Quran 21:25]


Apart from your religous book, what other texts or historic documents/ artifacts back your statements up?

I would assume someone as intellignet as yourself would not blindly follow a way of life without investigating its validity outside of the given literature? Surley you would have questioned the books growing up as an inquisitive young man, finally deciding on the path you chose after all the evidence was sifted through and the 'shinning light' found?
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Fri 1 Feb, 2008 09:56 pm
@Numpty,
[SIZE="3"]Prophet Muhammad`s (PBUH) Farewell Sermon[/SIZE]


This sermon was delivered by Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) on the Ninth Day of Dhul Hijjah 10 A.H. in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat' (in Mecca). During the first and last pilgrimage (Hajj) the Prophet (PBUH) attended. The Prophet (PBUH) died few months after this geat speach.


After praising, and thanking Allah he said:


"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you very carefully and TAKE THESE WORDS TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY.

O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that He will indeed reckon your deeds. ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer any inequity. Allah has Judged that there shall be no interest and that all the interest due to Abbas ibn 'Abd'al Muttalib (Prophet's uncle) shall henceforth be waived...

Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.

O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under Allah's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.

O People, listen to me in earnest, worship Allah, say your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadan, and give your wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to.

All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before Allah and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QURAN and my example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.

All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness, O Allah, that I have conveyed your message to your people".
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 05:52 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
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Numpty
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 08:53 pm
@Numpty,
Numpty;52537 wrote:
Apart from your religous book, what other texts or historic documents/ artifacts back your statements up?

I would assume someone as intellignet as yourself would not blindly follow a way of life without investigating its validity outside of the given literature? Surley you would have questioned the books growing up as an inquisitive young man, finally deciding on the path you chose after all the evidence was sifted through and the 'shinning light' found?


I'll take that as a NO then,...glad to see you're thinkin out side the box
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 09:21 pm
@Numpty,
Numpty;52616 wrote:
I'll take that as a NO then,...glad to see you're thinkin out side the box


Your original question was not correct. My source is the most authentic, most credible and trusted BOOK ever: The Noble Quran. You must ask me about the source of my faith (The Noble Quran and prophethood of Muhammad (PBUH)) and how can I prove my faith by evidences. If I prove to you by sensible, historical, and scientific solid proofs & evidences that the BOOK (Quran) where I got my information & knowledge from is trully from the CREATOR of this Universe, then your original question would be irrational!
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sun 3 Feb, 2008 05:54 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
Why I believe Jesus was NOT an unconditional pacifist or universalist:

1. He showed tribalist sentiments.
2. He whipped money-changers.
3. He advocated shaking off the dirt on one's feet upon those who don't listen.
4. He demanded that His students pay attention and take heed.
5. He constantly reprimanded scoundrels.
6. He taught his disciples to not waste their talent on scumbags.

Jesus was a tough teacher who didn't take crap off anyone. Those who didn't want to learn, He blew off and at times condemned. I can relate.
Numpty
 
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Reply Sun 3 Feb, 2008 06:29 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;52623 wrote:
Your original question was not correct. My source is the most authentic, most credible and trusted BOOK ever: The Noble Quran. You must ask me about the source of my faith (The Noble Quran and prophethood of Muhammad (PBUH)) and how can I prove my faith by evidences. If I prove to you by sensible, historical, and scientific solid proofs & evidences that the BOOK (Quran) where I got my information & knowledge from is trully from the CREATOR of this Universe, then your original question would be irrational!


You miss the point I was trying to debate. How do you know the book is authentic? what evidence is/ has been shown to back it up. Would you blindly follow something with out validating its Authenticity first.

I am sure you would investigate a finacial advisors credentials before parting with your money first. not the best analogy however it makes it obvious before we understand things and try them we must have all the facts at our disposal.

The same goes for any religous book, I am merely asking you because you are here.
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Sun 3 Feb, 2008 08:10 pm
@Numpty,
Numpty;52718 wrote:
You miss the point I was trying to debate. How do you know the book is authentic? what evidence is/ has been shown to back it up. Would you blindly follow something with out validating its Authenticity first.

I am sure you would investigate a finacial advisors credentials before parting with your money first. not the best analogy however it makes it obvious before we understand things and try them we must have all the facts at our disposal.

The same goes for any religous book, I am merely asking you because you are here.


That's correct. But first let us agree both on what kind of evidences that will be sufficient to make you admit that this Book is authentic and really from the CREATOR of this universe. You should be presice and subjective.

But I need to remind you that you initially asked me about historic books to back up my statements. Suppose I do that, Don't you need next to ask me what historic books to back up the first historic books I used to pack up my initial statements and to prove their authenticity...etc!! Don't you think that is not logical and will be a never-ending argument.

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Originally stated by Numpty
Apart from your religous book, what other texts or historic documents/ artifacts back your statements up?
Numpty
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2008 03:36 am
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;52719 wrote:
That's correct. But first let us agree both on what kind of evidences that will be sufficient to make you admit that this Book is authentic and really from the CREATOR of this universe. You should be presice and subjective.

But I need to remind you that you initially asked me about historic books to back up my statements. Suppose I do that, Don't you need next to ask me what historic books to back up the first historic books I used to pack up my initial statements and to prove their authenticity...etc!! Don't you think that is not logical and will be a never-ending argument.



I see where you are coming from and it is a valid point.

However when using evidence of historical events from say 200 years ago, I will use the Battle of Waterloo during the napolionic wars as an example. How do we know those events occured? We have hundereds of documented eyewitness accounts of the events. Artifacts such as cannons, muskets and clothing. There is also evidence at the site of Waterloo, musket balls, canon balls, pieces of uniforms bodies buried near the site. All this evidence together shows that said events actually hapened, as each piece of evidence substantiates the other, thus building a picture of the events of those days.

This would the sort of thing I would looking for, not an endless circle of argument.

Each piece of evidence that supports a holy book should be there to back it up, historical documentation of the events written about in the books which is not in the actual book it's self, eyewitness first hand accounts. We have alrady debated at length else where on this site there are none for the bible supporting Jesus.
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2008 03:05 pm
@Numpty,
Numpty;52721 wrote:
I see where you are coming from and it is a valid point.

However when using evidence of historical events from say 200 years ago, I will use the Battle of Waterloo during the napolionic wars as an example. How do we know those events occured? We have hundereds of documented eyewitness accounts of the events. Artifacts such as cannons, muskets and clothing. There is also evidence at the site of Waterloo, musket balls, canon balls, pieces of uniforms bodies buried near the site. All this evidence together shows that said events actually hapened, as each piece of evidence substantiates the other, thus building a picture of the events of those days.

This would the sort of thing I would looking for, not an endless circle of argument.

Each piece of evidence that supports a holy book should be there to back it up, historical documentation of the events written about in the books which is not in the actual book it's self, eyewitness first hand accounts. We have alrady debated at length else where on this site there are none for the bible supporting Jesus.


Again I must ask you to be more presice and specific about what evidence(s) will make you believe that the Noble Quran is truly from the CREATOR of the universe.

Regarding your above historic examples, I can show many still-existing and preserved pieces of evidences regarding historic land marks, graves (including the grave of the Prophet (PBUH)), battle fields, Mosques, even the letters sent by the Prophet (PBUH) to the Kings and Emperors (like Cesar of the Romans) during his time inviting them to Islam.

But I don't think that what I will ask if I want to check the authencity of the Quran but rather something else which Allah in the Quran presented to you more than 14oo years ago.

Quran itself contains the solid proofs of its authenticity and the proofs that it could not be authered by a Man, rather a greater source had to have been the author of this Book (Quran).

(1) One of those evidences is the perfect compatibility MIRACLES OF Quran (which was revealed 14 centuries ago) with modern Science (with Scientific facts).

(2) Another proof is this astonishing challenge to all mankind (and to even the unseen Jinns). There is no other book ever in history that presented or present to its readers who doubt in its authenticity this challenge:

In Quran, ALLAH challenges All mankind and Jinns (since more than 1400) years: "And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant (Muhammad), then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true." (Quran 2:23) ...

"Say: "If the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support." (Quran 17:88)


The shortest sura (chapter) is about 10 words!!

The enemies of Islam need only to produce a sura (of only 10 words) like the Quran, to prove that it is not from ALLAH (GOD). Why no one till now did it!!!?


(3) The other proof is also presented by ALLAH to all those who doubt in the authenticity of the Quran. This is the criterion:

"Do they not then consider the Quran carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein many a contradiction." [Quran 4: 82]
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SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2008 03:16 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;52702 wrote:
Why I believe Jesus was NOT an unconditional pacifist or universalist:

1. He showed tribalist sentiments.
2. He whipped money-changers.
3. He advocated shaking off the dirt on one's feet upon those who don't listen.
4. He demanded that His students pay attention and take heed.
5. He constantly reprimanded scoundrels.
6. He taught his disciples to not waste their talent on scumbags.

Jesus was a tough teacher who didn't take crap off anyone. Those who didn't want to learn, He blew off and at times condemned. I can relate.


Pinochet.. instead of this illusive drama you like to surround yourself with, I would like you please to explain to me this parable said by Jesus (peace be upon him). I am serious so please be serious when you explain. Thanks.



Jesus (PBUH) was speaking to the Jews:

[Matthew 21:33-46] (KJV)
33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.
46 But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 06:05 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 08:46 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
C'mon, Sword. Throw steel, Brohammer. Throw it. I SAID THROW DOWN!!!!! Throw steel and know, once and for all, WHO IS BETTER!!!!!! THROW IT!!!!!
:swordfight::swordfight::swordfight::swordfight::swordfight::swordfight:
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 09:16 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;52974 wrote:
C'mon, Sword. Throw steel, Brohammer. Throw it. I SAID THROW DOWN!!!!! Throw steel and know, once and for all, WHO IS BETTER!!!!!! THROW IT!!!!!
:swordfight::swordfight::swordfight::swordfight::swordfight::swordfight:



If you really want to fight then the road is easy. Just join the Bush Crusade Army and go to Iraq !

Now, let us return to reality, why did not you answer my request when I asked you to give your personal explanation for that parable I posted above !!?
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 09:34 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;52979 wrote:
If you really want to fight then the road is easy. Just join the Bush Crusade Army and go to Iraq !

Now, let us return to reality, why did not you answer my request when I asked you to give your personal explanation for that parable I posted above !!?


Pinochet does not like serious debates, his posts never reach more than a few sentances at most.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Fri 8 Feb, 2008 03:28 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;52980 wrote:
Pinochet does not like serious debates, his posts never reach more than a few sentances at most.


Preferable to the incessant spewing of propaganda by certain others.
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RED DEVIL cv
 
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Reply Fri 8 Feb, 2008 06:18 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
The Historical Accuracy of the Bible, by Jim Sasser

To be divinely inspired, a book must be historically accurate. For if its credibility cannot be established on the basis of known events, it certainly cannot be relied upon as an adequate guide in matters beyond our ability to check. On the other hand, if we can demonstrate that such a book is correct in historical matters , to an extent unknown by human writings, then we have strong evidence that the authors were inspired by God.

Down through the centuries, enemies of the Bible have attacked it historical accuracy. Time after time, the Scriptures have been thus questioned, only later to be shown correct by archeology. Archeology is a study of relics, monuments, tombs, artifacts, etc. of ancient civilizations. Peoples and events, known before only Biblical accounts, have been brought to light by the excavations of ancient cities. Always, the Bible has been proven right. Let us consider a few of the cases of such findings:

GRAPES IN EGYPT:

In Genesis 40 we are told how Joseph interpreted the dream of Pharaoh's servant. In this dream grapes are mentioned. But the ancient historian, Herodotus, states that the Egyptians grew no grapes and drank no wine, and many therefore quesitoned the accuracy of the biblical account. However, paintings discovered on the ancient Egyptian tombs, show the dressing, pruning, and cultivating of the vines, and also the process of extracting the juice of grapes, as well as scenes of drunkenness. There can be littel doubt then that Herodotus was wrong and the Bible was right.

THE BRICKS OF PITHOM:

In Exodus 1:11, we are told that the children of Israel built the treasure cities of Pithom and Raameses for Pharaoh. In Exodus 5, we are informed that they made bricks first using straw, and then using stubble, because no straw was furnished them for that purpose. In 1883, Naville, and in 1908, Kyle found at Pithom, one of the cities built by Israel, that the lower courses were built of bricks filled with good, chopped straw. The middle courses have straw stubble. The upper courses were made of pure clay, with no straw whatever. It is difficult to read the biblical account and not be astonished at trhe amazing confirmation which archeology here has given to the Bible.

THE HITTITES:

Forty-eight times in the Scriptures, a people called the Hittites are mentioned. We find them blocking Israel's path as it sought to enter the promised land. We read of Uriah, the Hittite, whom David sent to his untimely death. However, in all the records of antiquity, not a reference to these people was to be found, and therefore, the skeptics attributed them to the imagination and fiction. In 1876, George Smith, began study of monuments at a place called Djerabis in Asia Minor. This city proved to be old Carchemish, a capital of the ancient Hatti. We now know that the Hatti were the Hittites of the Bible, who, according to Prof. A.H. Sayce,"Contended on equal terms with both Egypt and Assyria." The Hittites not only proved to be a real people, but their empire was shown to be one fo the great ones of ancient times.

SARGON:

In Isaiah 20:1, we read, "In the year that Tartan came unto Ashod, (when Sargon the king of Assyria sent him).." This is the only mention of King Sargon in the Bible, and the only one in ancient literature. His place in history was severely questioned on this account. But in the years 1842-1845, P.E. Botta, uncovered the tremendous royal palace of Sargon. Among the other things discovered was an account of the siege of Ashdod mentioned in Isaiah. Once more the Bible was right, the critics were wrong.

THE FLOOD:

Genesis 7 and 8 tell us of the destruction of the world by a great flood. To many, the story of the flood is actually a recording of ancient myths. However, we have much evidence outside the Bible to show that the flood was a reality and the Bible is true. Notice the flood traditions of ancient peoples. One scholar lists 88 different traditional accounts. Almost all of these agree that there was a universal destruction of the human race and all living creatures by a flood. Almost all agree that an ark or a boat was the means of escape. Almost all are in accord in saying that a seed of mankind was left to perpetuate the race. Many add that wickedness of man brought about the flood. Some even mention Noah. Several speak of the dove and raven, and some discuss a sacrifice offered by those who were saved. To anyone familiar with the biblical account, the similarity is astounding. The universality of this tradition is such as to establish that the biblical flood was not a figment of someone's imagination.

In 1872, George Smith, discovered the now famous Babylonian flood tablets. In these, a certain person was told to build and ark or ship and to take into seed of all creatures. He was given the exact measurements and was instructed to use pitch in sealing it. He took his family into the boat with food. There was a terrible storm which lasted six days. They landed on Mt. Nazir. He sent out a dove. It returned. He sent out a swallow. It returned. He sent out a raven and it flew back and forth over the earth. When these people were safely out of the boat, they offered sacrifice to the gods. The account differs from the Bible in some particulars, but is so much in agreement with the Scriptures as to make one wonder how the historical nature of the flood could continue to be questioned.

Furthermore, archeology has found positive evidence of a great flood in some ancient cities. At Susa, a solid deposit of earth five feet thick was found between two distinct civilizations. The nature of the deposit establishes beyond doubt that Susa was completely destroyed by a flood which was not merely local. At Ur, the ancient home of Abraham, a similar deposit of water laid clay eight feet thick was found. This deposit clearly show that Ur, was destroyed by a flood of such proportions that it must have been a vast flood such as the one of the Bible. Further evidence could be presented, but this should be sufficient to demonstrate that the Biblical flood was not imaginary.

JERICHO:

Joshua 6 , tells how Israel conquered the walled city of Jericho. For six days they marched once around the city. On the seventh day they went around it seven times. The priests blew their trumpets, the people shouted, and when the did, "The wall fell down flat" (Joshua 6:20). The people then rushed straitway into the city and burned it. They took none of it to themselves. They saved Rahab who lived in a house upon the wall and who had helped them previously.

Starting in 1929, Dr. John Garstang, excavated the ruins of ancient Jericho. His discoveries corresponded remarkably with the Biblical account. Jericho, he found, had a double wall, with houses built across the the two walls. This explains how Rahab's house could have been bulit upon a wall. He learned that the wall was destroyed by some kind of violent convulsion such as that described in the Bible, and that when the wall feel that it feel outward, down the hillside, or as the Bible says, it fell down flat. Had the wall been destroyed by the battering rams of an enemy army, the walls would have fallen inward instead of outward. Furthermore, the city had been burned. Once again, th spade of archeology has established the accuracy of the Bible.

SERGIUS PAULUS, THE PROCONSUL:

In Acts 13:7, mention is made of Sergius Paulus, the proconsul of Cyprus. For a long time, skeptic contended that Luke should have called him propraetor instead of proconsul since this was the usual title. However, coins discovered on Cyprus, have positively established that the governors Cyprus were indeed proconsuls. One such coin found at Soli on Cyprus bears the inscription, "Paulus the Proconsul", very possibly referring to the very man mentioned in Acts by Luke.

CONFIRMATION BY NON-BIBLICAL WRITERS:

Some Biblical accounts have been substantiated by non-biblical writers. For example: The Jewish historian Josephus has said many things concerning facts in th Bible. For example; in Matthew 14:3,4, we are told that Herod put John the Baptist to death for the sake of Herodias, his brother Phillip's wife, because John had informed Herod that it wasn't lawful for him to have her as his wife. Josephus tells us why it was unlawful. Herodias had originally been married to Herod's brother, Philip. The she divorced Phip and married Herod. This unlawful marriage was the occasion of John's rebuke. The account of Josephus and Bible are in perfect accord.

APPARENT INCONSISTENCIES:

Apparent inconsistencies fade away when one rightly divides the words and when the Bible is studied with an open mind. And example is found in regard to the ruling family of Palestine in Matt. 2:1, we read of "Herod the King" who was reigning when Jesus was born, Matt. 2:19 records his death. Yet in Acts 12:12, we read once more of "Herod the King" putting James to death. How could he do this if he were already dead? Does this present a contradiction? Josephus, an unbeliever in Christ, explains the difficulty by showing that Herod of Acts, was actually the grandson of the Herod mentioned in Matt. 2. The Bible agrees perfectly with the facts.

Again, Luke 2:1, mentions "Caesar Augustus" as the ruling monarch of the Roman Empire. In Luke 3:1, we are told that John the Baptist began his ministry in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar. This shows that Augustus was no longer on the throne. Still in Acts 25:21, we find Paul appealing to Augustus. A superficial reading might lead us to suppose that the Bible contradicts itself. But on closer examination, with other know facts, we find that that the emperor at that time was Nero, whose full name was Caesar Augustus Nero. Luke, the author of both books in question, does not explain this because the first century readers were familiar with the fact that there were two different men named Augustus.

Thus the attacks upon the credibility of the Bible have served to make stronger, not weaker, the conviction of every true believer of the faith.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Fri 8 Feb, 2008 06:29 pm
@RED DEVIL cv,
RED DEVIL;53020 wrote:


..."Apparent inconsistencies fade away when one rightly divides the words and when the Bible is studied with an open mind."


:wtf:
 

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