If Jesus was God ...

It is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah, (Muhammad (may peace be upon him)) observed: "By Him in Whose hand is the life of Muhammad, he who amongst the community of Jews or Christians hears about me, but does not affirm his belief in that with which I have been sent and dies in this state (of disbelief), he shall be but one of the denizens of Hell-Fire." {Muslim, Book 001, Number 0284}NAS [Romans 1:21- 31]:
"For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.

For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,

and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,

being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips,

slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,

without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful;

and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them."

For the million time, where did Jesus (himself) mention the "TRINITY"? or where did Jesus mention that God is = the Father+the Word+the Holy Ghost !!!?
Or Where did Jesus himself said that he's God !!?




Every messenger sent by God would have said the same during his time. No one would come to God but through his messengers who carried God's true words and orders.

Jesus (peace be upon him) was always teaching that he's just a messenger and servant of God. He never claimed to be God or God the Son. He always taught that there's only ONE true God who he used to worship and to pray to.

How can any sensible christian keep rejecting all evidences in the bible that emphesize this crystal clear truth, that's Jesus (PBUH) was only a man and a messenger of God.

This is one of those many evidences in their bible that they choose to ignore and instead they trust what their priests in the Church feed them with lies and deceptions:

Jesus said whosoever believes (IN HIM) will never die. Jesus did not say believes in some doctrine, or in a church, or in the Father, or in the teachings of Allah. He said whosoever believes (IN HIM). Your the one I believe who is feeding us false statements, because it would be impossible to phoney the tens of thousands of manuscrips that make up the majority text of the Bible. The Bible and its writings were well established long before the organized church, and many of the writings exist today, and we do not see this kind of deception. Now prove me wrong, show us the errors that must be laced through out the tens of thousands of copies of the Bible. Please show us these errors. You make these bold statements, now show us the proof.

Bored, Pino?

Throw steel, Sword. C'mon.....throw it, bro. I SAID THROW SOME STEEL ON THAT B.........:swordfight:

I invite you to save your self from the eternal hellfire and to be my brother in Islam.

Remeber, life is short and no one knows when he will die.

"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers." (Quran 3:85)


"Say (O Muhammad): If you love Allah, follow me: Allah will love you, and grant you protection from your sins. And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. Say: Obey Allah and the Messenger, but if they turn back, Allah surely loves not the disbelievers." (Quran 3:30-31)

Sword, i'm tired of trying to defend your people all the time so why don't you do it?

Go to the thread: "Islam, a better religion for minorities?"

No need to defend my brothers & sisters. Islam is so great and so strong that needs no body to defend it. It defends itself.

Allah has promised to protect Islam:

"And who does more wrong than the one who invents a lie against Allah, while he is being invited to Islam? And Allah guides not the people who are Zalimun (polytheists, wrong-doers and disbelievers) folk.
They intend to put out the Light of Allah (i.e. the religion of Islam, this Quran, and Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)) with their mouths. But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate (it).
He (Allah) it is Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad (peace be upon him)) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islamic Monotheism) to make it victorious over all (other) religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah and in His Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him) hate (it)."

[Noble Quran 61: 7-9]

I believe in equality so i feel the need to defend all people, and increasing prejudice towards Muslims is caused by bad media. The outlook doesn't look good for religious equality.

people should just accept that other people have different religions.