If Jesus was God ...

The bible is full of contradictions....as i've stated many times before!

The Bible clearly tells us that there is the Father, Son, And Holy Ghost, and these three equal one God. There is no counterdiction there.

Nixon

Nixon.

not according to Chico!

...and why weren't you able to reply to the contradictions i listed to you? You weren't even able to dissmis the hand full that i asked you to!

not according to Chico!

...and why weren't you able to reply to the contradictions i listed to you? You weren't even able to dissmis the hand full that i asked you to!

...was the worst president in US history!

On this post there is about one Christian for ever 10 non believers, I have responded as much as I can keep up with. I believe the last one I responded to was to show you that with God one day = a thousand years.

Nope -- Clinton I, and Clinton II.:FU2:

actually there's only 3 or possibly 4 atheists, but never the less, my posts were quite a long time ago....you've had plenty of time to respond to them, and yes you answered only 1 of the 205 contradictions!

And I believe I told you I would answer your questions one at a time. And I told you to pick a few of your best, and I would respond as I had the time to do so. And I'm glad your up on my schedule to know how much time I have to answer your 205 questions. Which you no doubt down loaded from your local atheist web site. I'm sure you took the time to read and deeply consider each one of those 205 question yourself. LOL

there's only been one clinton president, but i still think Nixon was much worse!

I don't expect you to answer all 205 of them, infact i didn't even expect you to answer the few that i gave to you, i was trying to prove a point to you!

My point was that the bible was written by man, and thus has errors just like any other book! Hopefully you will realize that! That doesn't mean you have to discredit all of the bible , just know that not every single word is the divine and absolute truth!

Well thank you for pointing that out to me. I look forward to seeing a few of your best counterdictions.

Christ indeed was called the Son of God in the scriptures, in fact 9 times to be exact. Have you never read the terminology "only begotten" used in scriptures and used "specifically" when making reference to the Christ?

ONLY BEGOTTEN is from the Greek term "monogenes". As I said, this word is used nine times in the Greek New Testament. The word is a "compound" word, "mono", meaning only or single, and "gennesis", meaning birth or origin.
"ONLY BEGOTTEN" (MONOGENES) is used 5 times by John, 3 times by Luke, and once by the writer of the book of Hebrews. Luke used the word to describe the widow's son, "only son of his mother" (Lk 7:12, 8:42, 9:38). The writer of Hebrews said Abraham "offered up his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON", not many begotten sons but ONLY BEGOTTEN SON. (Heb. 11:17).

Only Begotten as applied to the Christ in scriptures teach that God's people are indeed "sons of God" (Roman 8:14). Many people, perhaps as YOU, contend that Jesus was simply another son of God. This is absolutely not so, and can be proven by the scriptures. The Sonship of Jesus was UNDERSTOOD as being indicative of deity (John 10:36,38). Monogenes is used indicating the Jesus Sonship. Jesus is the "only begotten Son" (1 John 4:9) Singularly of its kind, meaning JUST ONE according to translation from THAYER....When used of Christ, denotes the only Son of God or who in the sense in which he himself is the Son of God has no brethern. (Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon, pgs. 417, 418.) God's people indeed are the son's of God, but they are adopted, while Jesus the Christ is the only Son of God by nature Romans 8:14-16,(his father was indeed the the Holy Spirit as stated in scripture Matt. 1:20).

The only begotten declared God (John 1:18) was Jesus. Jesus being of the same nature as the Father(his offspring, much as my father sired me, I find that I have the same DNA traits and characteristics as he, so does the Christ have the same makeup of Deity as His Father) thus He(Jesus) could reveal the true nature of God as no one else could (John 14:8-11). The only begotten is the ultimate expression of God's love toward mankind (John 3:16, 1stJohn 4:19). Moreover, if we are to have "salvation", we must believe in the "ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of GOD" (John3:18, and Ch16).

Well I seem to remember reading them, did you not?

Quite interesting they were too, maybe he did download them from an 'anti christian' site, does that make the contradictions any less meaningful?

Answer them and we can all see who is right.

I have no argument with the Son of God and Only Begotten Son of God as Jesus was called. As I have said I did not question the holiness of Jesus. I believed He came from God who is Spirit and He is in the form of God (Spirit) before He was made flesh and therefore the attributes of the Father is in Jesus, the image and likeness of God the essential being or nature of God or Godhead is in Jesus. But Jesus is not equal to the Father who is called God in the Bible. Jesus said in John 14.28 '...because the Father is greater than me...' The Bible does not called Jesus God because He is not equal or greater with the Father the Almighty God. A person or an entity must be equal or greater than the All Mighty One before he is called God. Jesus who was in the same nature (Spirit) of God does not mean equality with the Father because as Jesus said 'the FAther is greater than me'...

The equality comes from the fact that "all authority in heaven and on earth was given to the Christ" (Matt. 28:18).


My Answer: This is purely assumption. You have concluded without any basis in the Bible. Where can you find equality between Father and Jesus? Give a quotations in the Bible not merely assuming to support your claim....


Jesus was simply God in the flesh, he had all the power of God....(John 3:34).....for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. He had all authority...(Matt. 28:18).

My answer; These are also purely assumptions. You have concluded that Jesus is God without any basis in the Bible. Where can you find that Jesus was simply God in the flesh? and that he had all the power of God? In John 3.34 or 35 to be exact there is no ALL POWER OF GOD mentioned. You interpreted that verse very wrong....


He was the Word...."In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (John 1:1)....."And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us (and we behold his glory, the glory of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."(John 1:14).

My answer: The Word was with God and the Word was God... This mean when the Word was with God the Word was God, without any distinction between the Father and the Word.


Jesus had the character of 'omnipresence' (found everywhere), He saw an event were he was not "physically" present (John 1:45-49). He knew the hearts of men, or what was in them....."But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men, And needed not that any should testify of man; for he knew what was in men." (John 2:24-25). He knew the past of people that he had just met (John 4:17-18, 28-29). He could heal people without being present (John 4:47-53)

My answer: These are stated in the Bible, there is no argument but this does not mean Jesus is God because there was no phrase/s that He is God there.


Thus his claim to being the son of God made him "equal" to God, here on earth, "But Jesus answered them, "My Father worketh hitherto, and I work." Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, MAKING HIM EQUAL WITH GOD." (John 5:17-18)

My answer: These are also purely assumptions. Pls do not assume. These are not in the Bible. Give me phrases in the that states that being the son of God made him equal to God... Give me phrases in the Bible that says God was his father making him equal with God... Give the Bible text and do not assume. That is bad....


Jesus is the great "I AM". God said "I AM" to Moses (Exodus 3:14).
Jesus the Christ made the same claim in (John 8:58).....Jesus said unto them," Verily, verily, I say unto you, BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, "I AM".

My answer: Before Abraham was I AM. What does this mean? This mean before Abraham was He already existed. The Word or the Wisdom already existed before Abraham but the I AM in Exo 3.14 is the name (Noun) of God given to Moses. The I AM in John 8.58 denotes existense...

To prove this He had the power on earth to forgive all sin......(Matt:9-6), He forgave the prostitute of her sin (Luke 47-48), the thief on the cross (Luke 23).
The Jews knew that only God had the power to forgive Sin. RD