If Jesus was God ...

Yes I'm sure they would but that still does not mean I'm in error though. There is only one truth and only those who have it knows it.



The day will come when you will know without a shdow of of dought who was right.




I could give you scriptures proving you wrong but I don't believe it would convinced you.....you have already made up your mind about what you believe. One day the entire world will given such overwhelming evidence that it cannot deny. Until then believe as you wish.

Yes, there is only ONE TRUTH. Try to convince me that you got that TRUTH. Compare my calimed truth with your claimed truth. Either mine or yours or neither will be that ONE TRUTH.

It's not my intention to convince anyone....you either accept it or reject it.

LOVE IT MLURP!!!!!!!

One more comment. I met a remarkable man in Beruit some years ago.

He told me that the reason Islam swept the world after The Prophet's death while at same time making remarkable progress in the sciences and arts, in music and culture, was because Islam as then understood was simplicity itself. While Christianity was all bogged down in the complexity of the trinity Islam refused to confuse logos (logic) with Mythos (spiritual). So, as long as the subject matter did not militate against there being one God, the Muslim was encouraged to study, to speculate, to progress.

That then was the secret to Islam's massive success in the days of the early Caliphates.

But all good things come to an end and Islamic societies regressed with time and are today a comeplete anthithesis of the earlier versions.

So while the Bin Ladens may want to bring back the Caliphate, they do not have the mental & spiritual wherewithal to make that happen. It requires more than just praying 5 times a day and planning the next kill.

The real reason Islam swept the world after the prophets death was for the next 400 years unless you converted to Islam you got your head chopped off. By the time the goofs were finished they destroyed 3,200 Christian churches and killed hundreds of thousands of Christians. After this 400 year blood bath the Christian church finally had enought and the Crusades began.

Oh, get off your high and mighty horse...let's not talk about the horrendous Spanish Inquisition, that tortured and killed thousands of innocents, sanctioned by the Roman Church....I liken it to America, desperately trying to claim the "moral high ground", while being, actually, "guilty as sin", complicit in the deaths of tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of innocents, in its' mad quest for imperialism, colonialism, and war for profit.

See here is where u and I differ, your idea of a Christian are those responsible for the Spanish Inquisition. Real Christian know that corruption has happened in the past by those who (claimed) they were Christians. Yet Christ said we would know real Christians by their works. It appears you don't know real Christians because you have tried to blame real Christians for the actions of evil men that took over the church in Rome.

Oh, you "underwhelm". We differ on much more than this...you and I are 360 degrees apart. In fact, there is no comparison.
I suggest than throughout the history of the church, there have been evil men who have corrupted the teachings of Christ (as you're doing, presently), and have done evil deeds, all in God's Name (and what greater sin could there possibly be than "that"?). "Real Christians" don't have to run around, shouting from the mountaintops, that they are "Christians"...indeed, "real" Christians, "are", in fact, known by the deeds that they do. Everyone can see...but more importantly, God sees and knows all....all that men cannot know. So you might be fooling me...but you ain't fooling God.
If you're doing "Christian work", so that men will know about it...then you're doing it, precisely for the "wrong reasons"...you ought to be doing it, simply because it's the "right thing to do". It's called "vainglory"...(look it up)
And you claim that real Christians know that "corruption happened in the past"...I say, its' going on today...ain't nothing changed, in fact, things have gotten much worse...as was foretold in the Bible...in the last days...remember...you ought to, you talk about it every chance you get.
There are so many so-called Christian folk that are going straight to Hell in a handbasket. Yet, they think themselves so righteous, so holy, and so Christian...but the truth is that they are far from it. Check yourself.
Jesus didn't preach condemnation, although he said he would return to pass judgement (paraphrased)..to judge both the living and the dead.
But why would he need to do that, when he's got you, and countless others, doing his dirty work for him? I'm sorry, but I'd like to believe that God, in his profound wisdom, could find a better representative than the likes of you.
Real Christians, my good sir, are those whose deeds go unsung, except by God, who is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent.
I don't need instruction in catechism by you.





And I can assure you, America has not made any money by the war in Iraq, far from it.

I'll let the board refute this outrageous claim of yours...anyone who thinks this is mentally deficient or mentally ill.


And Iraq's former dictator was not anyone to be proud of. He use to give $25,000 dollars to any Islamics family who's son or daughter would strap on a bomb and blow up Jews in Israel.

hearsay...you have no proof...you can't believe everything you read..but that would be like spitting in the wind, with the likes of you




His sons use to feed people they did not like to hungry dogs, or telephone crushing machines.

Again, hearsay...and unproven...I am certain, Saddam was no saint, and perhaps he deserved to be overthrown and brought to justice for his actions...but it was his peoples duty to do that, not America's

Sadam had 50,000 curds killed by those chemical weapons that some say did not exist. Tell that to the Kurds.

Do you know any Kurds? If not, then, please keep quiet.

The fact is, if America does not win we will see a united front over in the middle east that will be finally in full agreement for their hatred of Israel and America.

Ok Martian...let me explain something....There already was a united front, in the Middle East,that is in agreement that America is "the evil", the aggressor, the puppet of Israel's Zionism, and the harbinger of death and destruction.
Looks like we've lived up to the hype.
10 years from now...remember this moment, when we were on this board, and Aaron said...the war cannot be won....will not be won...and we've set in motion events that will come back and be our ruination. Nov 23, 2017...mark your calendar..right now...go in the kitchen and jot down on the calendar...make sure you got the right month....day....time...and year...ok? Ok....
You underestimate how much we're hated, around the world. For nothing????
Absolutely not....not that the American people are to blame, per se...but the leaders that we have elected, mostly...(some stole their offices and commissions), have decided, against the will of the American people to go to war, kill, maim, and steal oil , land, profits, at any cost, despite our cries against it...they will not stop, because greed and power have taken over their souls...they are agents, not of God, but of Satan...and evidence is overwhelmingly everywhere, and undeniable...you only have to open your eyes to see it. But denial begats denial which begats more denial and keeps people blind and trapped.




Of course this is what the Bible states is going to happen. And in the end, the Bible tells us this front will be allied with Russia, and they will attack us. America's end will then come in one hours time.

Interesting argument from Mr.Campbell.

It was Islam to be blamed for killing people when it expanded.

However Christianity was not to be blamed for the inequities of the Spanish Inquistion and the other horrendous crimes. Those were done by bad people who were not real christians.

Your justification Mr.Campbell, is defined as "bigoted".

Only an uninformed man would call someone a bigot without all the facts.

The New Testament does not support the actions of the Roman Church during the Spanish Inquistion. And those who did take the lives of others during that time were nothing more than murders in priest clothing. The bottom line is. (What does the Bible teach?) And not what the actions of evil men in high positions did. Those men are dead and gone, but the Bible remains and tells us those men were murders. And Jesus tells us, no murder will enter the Kingdom of God. It was Jesus who told us we would know true Christians by their works, and true Christians are not murders as Jesus Christ has already told us.

Now unlike the Bible, the Koran does support the actions of the Islamics during their expansion, and today continues to support the killing of Muslims that leave their faith and become Christians. All over the world muslims lash out in violence against anyone that does not believe as they do. Christians speak out, but we donot murder. We don't strap bombs to out bodies and set them off in a market places. We donot try to kill authors that write books putting down our faith. We donot go around burnning down mosques.
In Islamic countries Christians have to hide when they worship because it is against the law for a Christian to worship in the open. In many Islamic countries, Christian face arrest and even prision if caught worshipping Christ.

The simple fact is the Bible does not encourage the spreading of the faith by violence, the Koran does. And this is why there is so much turmoil around the world where ever Islam is present. In repentance (9:27-29) Islam publicly states that (the non-Muslims have no right to live honorably;) the Muslims must fight against them until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled.

My friend you have spoken the truth, but the things is, there are those on this board that already have their minds made up and nothing that you or anyone will say that will change this. Their mind is twisted with hate against the Bible that they can't see what true Christians and the Bible are all about....Satan has done a very good job on them by blinding them, and their attitude will not allow them to see this mind set that they have.