be assured aaronssongs that i never judge any one for anything but his own actions, and its quite clear how many americans stand up for whats right and are not ashamed of admiting mistakes on one's part if any , still i have to make it clear that there is nothing that could have possibly justified the attacks on WTC .
You seem always to miss understand all the messages (even your bible messages!).
The film was made by British ITV Channel. The film producers are christians (not muslims) and not all the ones interviewed in it are muslims (some are/or jews/christians).
Again and again..As there is only ONE GOD, there is only One Religion...Islam is the preserved pure religion of all prophets from ALLAH (GOD) (the pure true Monotheism). Islam means the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God).
Islam is not a new religion but the final culmination and fulfillment of the same basic truth that ALLAH (God) revealed through all His prophets to every people.
"Not a single messenger did We (Allah) send before you (Muhammad) without this inspiration sent by Us to him - that there is no god but I, therefore worship and serve Me." [Quran 21:25]
Of course, nothing would justify the loss of innocent life. Nothing short of an attack on the US, would justify invading a country that was contained, and lacked the sophistication and material for producing a nuke, as Joe Wilson revealed in his Op-Ed....so based on a lie, we're at war, killing and maiming, and being killed and maimed....for a lie. And all under the guise of liberation and democratization of the Iraqi people, when really the truth of the matter is the procurement of oil ( by any means necessary), regardless of the collateral damage, and the lies told to the American public...which many are all too willing to believe...not just sheep, but "blood-thirsty", over zealous, and belligerent sheep...never once stopping for breath and a serious look at the insanity of it all. We're doomed...common sense has died an untimely death. Let us mourn for it, and pray for deliverance....not from government, but from God Almighty.
You did not speak to the lineage of Islam in terms of Christianity or the Christian bible. Is Christianity the older brother of Islam or not.
If it is, should Islam not venerate it?
If the Islamic Bible is to be the next book meant to follow the Christian Bible, it should say so. Is It?
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DL
So arrogant...you think that America has the right to invade other countries and tell them how to govern their people? What if they did that here? What would you think? You'd be outraged. But it's perfectly fine for America to be in cahoots with the Saudi royal family, who, by the way, are not favored by their own people for their dealings with America, hence Bin Laden's hatred, because we have interfered with his country...but that's perfectly fine, isn't it...because "We're America, and can do any frigging thing we want to...no matter the cost to anybody else, man, woman or child...gotta get that oil, don't we? Get outside of yourself, for a moment, and put yourself in their shoes, if you can....or are you blinded by your hatred, as well?>
Polit wrong,
Don't think for one minute that all Americans think this way...some acknowledge America's complicity in the hatred the rest of the world feels for us..and justifiably so. It's not the righteous American people running things....it's a corrupt hierarchy, that is executing foreign policy that is exempt of compassion and the rule of law. The Democrats "will win" in 2008, and reclaim the country back, and govern with wisdom, intelligence, and respect for human life....while protecting the American people with a strong military, deployed effectively, defending our interests and protecting our borders and our ports (which have been neglected), from external and internal terrorism...instead of the nonsense going on at present.
you are 100% mistaken , the attackers of 911 believed they were responding to atrosities commited by the US (notice that i didnot say govrnment) against Muslims and Islam world wide , the support to Israel, the armies present in the gulf area , and the general attitude of your foriegn policy which is usualy and almost constantly anti-Islamic , Iraq was a tiny part of the whole picture , please dont deceive your self into believing that you were attacked because you rightfully freed kuwait , you are painting your self as a victim a totaly innocent one , which you are not
Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait first, and Kuwait is our allie. What gives Saddam the right to invade our alli, you keep pointing the finger at America and we are operating within the existing law. When other countries threaten world peace they need to be invaded. America ignored the rants of another dictator years ago, the result was 60 million people had to die in World War II. Bin Laden a spoiled rich kid, who gets off on murdering others because he thinks he's so perfect and doesent like the Saudie Royal family so we have to listen to him. Give me a brake. It is Bin Laden the murder, that is interfering with established laws and governments. I don't have to get outside of my self, Bin Laden is murder and a coward who justifies the murder of woman and children because he thinks his cause is just.
He's a rich little punk who's day is coming. I don't hate anyone, but I really don't care for self appointed murders.
If the Democrats have respect for human rights, why does their party platform have for its cornerstone the right of a woman to murder her child by abortion? 60 million American children murdered with the blessing of the Democratic Party. RESPECT FOR HUMAN LIFE? GIVE ME A BREAK.
Yes I believe that was the unofficial belief. The fact is the Islamics are doing the very thing the God of the Bible wants them to do. The Islamics I'm sure donot understand that the God of the Bible states very plainly that He brought the Jews back to their land to anger the nations. It is the God of the Bibles desire to so anger the Islamic nations that they will try to finally drive the Jews out be force. It's part of Gods bigger plan. God put the Jews back in their land as nothing more then bait. God intends to encourage the Islamics to attack the Jewish state. When all looks lost for the Jews and the state of Israel God will come to their aid and destroy five sixths of this massive invading Islamic army. The Bible has a lot to say about this. Today we are just working up to this great battle. This is much farther down the road however.
Oh, but you do hate...you're no different from bin Laden, or any of the 9/11 terrorists...you would do to them what was done to us.....there goes the "Golden Rule"...you don't really believe in the Bible...it's just a front for you, to hide your hate behind...you're really very sad.
It's not murder, because embryos are not children...and no amount of screaming and shrieking on your part, can change the fact that there are millions of people who believe this to be true...hence the divide, and the rub.
Until Roe V. Wade is overturned, it's the law of the land, and you and everyone else must respect the rule of law.
I don't know why you people are up in arms about unborn embyros...because, as soon as they are born...they and their families are on their own...you wash your hands of them...you don't care about their health and well-being, nutrition, education, their safety...nothing....so, in some cases, they are better off never being born, because of systemic neglect. So what?
It's not murder, because embryos are not children...and no amount of screaming and shrieking on your part, can change the fact that there are millions of people who believe this to be true...hence the divide, and the rub.
Until Roe V. Wade is overturned, it's the law of the land, and you and everyone else must respect the rule of law.
I don't know why you people are up in arms about unborn embyros...because, as soon as they are born...they and their families are on their own...you wash your hands of them...you don't care about their health and well-being, nutrition, education, their safety...nothing....so, in some cases, they are better off never being born, because of systemic neglect. So what?
First important thing, the main objective of this thread was/is to prove to you that your bible is not credible and it was fabricated by men. I have posted to you many proofs and evidences from your own bible that it's a man-made book that contradicts itself and full of errors from page one to the last page.
Even, your bible itself admits that it has become a lie:
"`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' " (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)
"How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
In either translation, we clearly see that the Jews had so much corrupted the Bible with their man-made cultural laws, that they had turned the Bible into a lie!
Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible - Times Online
JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, VIII:44
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it.- then answered the Jews - "
(which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)
"Now at the Feast the Jews were watching for Jesus and asking, 'Where is the man?'. Amongst the crowds there was widespread whispering about him. Some said, 'He is a good man'. Others replied, 'No, he deceives the people.' But no-one would say anything publicly about him for fear of the Jews'." (John, 7/10-13)
Benjamin Franklin's opinion about Jews:
"For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race".
(Passage of Benjamin Franklin's speech in a "CHIT CHAT AROUND THE TABLE DURING INTERMISSION," at the Philadelphia Constitutio-nal Convention of 1787. This statement was recorded in the diary of Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.)
Israel, the number one offender of crimes against humanity in the world, has always refused to join the international community's extradition agreements. Israel has never extradited a Jew and never will, no matter how serious the crime committed, to the country where the offence took place. Jews believe that: "God is giving [them this land] as an inheritance, so that anyone who kills a man may flee there." (The Bible, Deuteronomy 19:1-3).
Israeli former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in Oct. 3, 2001 said to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio, "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that...I want to tell you something very clear: Don?t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
Christian Zionism Justifying Apartheid in the Name of God:
The Israelphiles (the Christian Zionists) warn Americans that their country will be blessed only as they give their unfailing support to natural Israel, no matter what that rogue entity does to her neighbors.
I quote Rabbi David Weiss:
"Our prayer to God is that the Israeli state be speedily and peacefully dismantled without any further shedding of Jewish or Palestinian blood and that we be worthy of seeing the full revelation of God's glory in the world. Amen".
Now, The Truth, what Allah had said in the Noble Quran about the return of Jews back to Palestine:
[SIZE="3"]End of Israel is a Qur'anic Imperative[/SIZE]
"And We (Allah) decreed for the Children of Israel in the Scripture: indeed you would do mischief in the land twice and you will become tyrants and extremely arrogant
So, when the promise came for the first of the two, We sent against you slaves of Ours given to terrible warfare. They entered the very innermost parts of your homes. And it was a promise (completely) fulfilled.
Then We gave you a return of victory over them. And We helped you with wealth and children and made you more numerous in man-power.
(And We said): "If you do good, you do good for your own selves, and if you do evil (you do it) against yourselves." Then, when the second promise came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to disgrace your faces and to enter the mosque (of Jerusalem) as they had entered it before, and to destroy with utter destruction all that fell in their hands."
(Quran 17: 4-7)
Sign of the second (last) promise:
"And We said to the Children of Israel after him: "Dwell in the land (Earth), then, when the final and the last promise comes near We shall bring you back altogether as mixed crowd (gathered out of various nations)." (Quran 17: 104)
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There is nothing called Islamic Bible! It is called "Quran". The original message of Jesus (peace be upon him) was also Islam as for all the prophets. Allah in the Quran said that the jews and christians had corrupted and fabricated the original Torah and Injeel (The Gospel of Jesus). So, the Bible (OT & NT) you got with you now is not the true book(s) revealed by God. You got gospel of John, gospel of Mark, gospel of Luke, and gospel of Matthew, but not gospel of Jesus!. Can you tell me where is the Gospel of Jesus!!?
?And when Jesus son of Mary said: O Children of Israel! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming that which was (revealed) before me in the Torah, and bringing good tidings of a messenger who cometh after me, whose name is "Ahmad" the (Praised One)? (Quran 61: 6)
*Ahmad is the second name of prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
Have you seen this clip from Passion of the Messiah movie:
YouTube - Learn to Say ALLAH
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Would it not be in your best interest to allow the rebuilding of the temple to prove that the Jewish God will not return at that point in time?
Regards
DL
So if you consider yourself the next and best followers of Christ via Mohamed this only means that at end time you get to compete with all the other Jesus' that are to compete at end time.
Should you then clean up your act as far as Jihad and homosexuals are concerned. Or is this of no concern?
Regards
DL
