Talking without documented proofs is cheap. Provide your documented proofs before I start doing it!
Ezekiel 39: 25 to 29. "Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will now bring Jacob back from captivity and will have compassion on all the people of Israel, and I will be zealous for my holy name. They will forget their shame and all the unfaithfulness they showed toward me when they lived in safety in their land with no one to make them afraid. When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies. Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the house of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD.
According to Ezekiel this prophecy will be fulfilled after the destruction of Gog which you can read about in the 38 chapter of Ezekiel. It appears the army that God will destroy will be made up of a number of Islamic nations that are mentioned in chapter 38. Also God states He will not protect Israel so much for their sakes, but for His Holy Name that the Jews have polluted where ever they wandered. The Bible tells us all this will happen in the latter years.
We do not need proof, you koran is just a book. Paper nothing more or less, we know who the true god is and that's the LORD. Not Allah, he's a fake a hoax. Folklore past on to an uneducated people to this day, living in the year seven hundred and yet Christian's thrive and succeed without violence against one another in the name of our god. Islam is killing thousands daily in the name of Allah, including fellow Muslims without violence Islam would wither and die.
One only has to look at Turkey it killed over one point five million Armenians and yet it refuses to admit it commited the globes first genocide. In fact Hitler used it as a model to slaughter six million Jews. Some god you worship Sword. Islam will be remembered once it dies as the most violent cult during the duration of mankind. Nice legacy Sword.
We do not need proof, you koran is just a book. Paper nothing more or less, we know who the true god is and that's the LORD. Not Allah, he's a fake a hoax. Folklore past on to an uneducated people to this day, living in the year seven hundred and yet Christian's thrive and succeed without violence against one another in the name of our god. Islam is killing thousands daily in the name of Allah, including fellow Muslims without violence Islam would wither and die.
One only has to look at Turkey it killed over one point five million Armenians and yet it refuses to admit it commited the globes first genocide. In fact Hitler used it as a model to slaughter six million Jews. Some god you worship Sword. Islam will be remembered once it dies as the most violent cult during the duration of mankind. Nice legacy Sword.
We do not need proof, you koran is just a book. Paper nothing more or less
we know who the true god is and that's the LORD. Not Allah, he's a fake a hoax
he's a fake a hoax. Folklore past on to an uneducated people to this day
living in the year seven hundred and yet Christian's thrive and succeed without violence against one another in the name of our god
We do not need proof, you koran is just a book. Paper nothing more or less, we know who the true god is and that's the LORD. Not Allah, he's a fake a hoax. Folklore past on to an uneducated people to this day, living in the year seven hundred and yet Christian's thrive and succeed without violence against one another in the name of our god. Islam is killing thousands daily in the name of Allah, including fellow Muslims without violence Islam would wither and die.
One only has to look at Turkey it killed over one point five million Armenians and yet it refuses to admit it commited the globes first genocide. In fact Hitler used it as a model to slaughter six million Jews. Some god you worship Sword. Islam will be remembered once it dies as the most violent cult during the duration of mankind. Nice legacy Sword.
How dare you, with your self-righteous hypocrisy, chastise, defame and denigrate anyone else's religion, faith or belief. Just who do you think you are? What gives you the right? No one has that right.
There is but one God, some know him as Jehovah, some as Allah, some as the great Almighty, some as the Lord...a rose by any other name.....
The Islamic God is no or more less fake than your God....you think you know God...I say you do not...you do not speak for him/her...you can't even count the many hairs on your own head, let alone, discuss the do's and don'ts of God. Cease and desist...because you have no leg to stand upon. Intolerant and hateful...yet you want others to be understanding of you and yours...it's precisely people like you that are the problem.
Greatest I am;34070 wrote:God is a God of inclusion not exclusion.
If you really believe this, why are the lot of you so intolerant and judgemental?
Both Bible, if adhered to, will please God.
I kinda sorta almost believe this, but how do you know? I mean how could you possibly know, for real, exactly, what pleases God? It's not like he calls you on the phone...I'm thinking you have "a feeling", which may or may not be "divinely inspired"....so how do you know, unequivocably ?
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GIA wrote
God touched my mind the one time for a very short time when I was (saved).
It tends to change your way of thinking in some areas. Some known or recognized, some indirect and vague.
He does not care what language you speak as long as your actions are fair and just.
Again, what are you basing your conclusion upon?
GIA wrote
Logic and reason.
Both of these works speak of Jesus. If we follow His philosophy we should be OK.
God is the God of all men, not just the few here or there.
The only thing that you have said that is patently true
Try to think like God looking down on all your works.
Will you punish someone who calls you by a certain name out of ignorance of your true name if he is a good man. No.
Will you condemn someone who reads the wrong Bible if He is a good man. No.
In fact all men are your works, how can you condemn any of them.
If evil must be a part of your works, will you condemn those who do it. No. It is that way because it must be so as your Perfect works.
You look from above and see things unfolding exactly as you foresaw and predicted. Why intervene unless someone cries out strongly for you. No reason.
You wait for more to seek you the right way perhaps. Some who have a place of glory waiting for you. Your throne has yet to be built so you wait.
You gather generation after generation to you and yet the living are not learning the lessons you have given. You wait. You have the patience of God.
Seeing from afar sometimes helps us see close.
Regards
DL
aaronssongs;34081 wrote:
Try to think like God looking down on all your works.
Will you punish someone who calls you by a certain name out of ignorance of your true name if he is a good man. No.
Will you condemn someone who reads the wrong Bible if He is a good man. No.
In fact all men are your works, how can you condemn any of them.
If evil must be a part of your works, will you condemn those who do it. No. It is that way because it must be so as your Perfect works.
You look from above and see things unfolding exactly as you foresaw and predicted. Why intervene unless someone cries out strongly for you. No reason.
You wait for more to seek you the right way perhaps. Some who have a place of glory waiting for you. Your throne has yet to be built so you wait.
You gather generation after generation to you and yet the living are not learning the lessons you have given. You wait. You have the patience of God.
Seeing from afar sometimes helps us see close.
Regards
DL
Gobbledegook
Sorry aaronssong but we Christians see how some Moslems use women and children as human shields, we see how they kill their own people in the name of Allah. We see how they smash planes into buildings killing innocent people who are just trying to make a living for their families. We see these things, and we remember. We see how they blow up embasies killing hundreds of innocent people, and we remember they do this all in the name of Allah. And as the Bible fortells, the Islamics will someday try to drive the Jews out of the land of Israel, and on that day, you and the Jews together will see the real God. And both the Islamics, and the Jews, will not be happy. Zec. 12
Greatest I am;34212 wrote:
Gobbledegook
Try your version.
Regards
DL
Sorry Campbell, but I see how we treat human beings..at Abu Gharib, and Gitmo.
Are we any better than those? We have killed innocent men, women, and countless children, and we're somehow justified? You are mad.
We kill, we rape, we murder...yet, we think ourselves "the moralists"???
I will try hard not to laugh on Judgement Day, when God places a Muslim before you...just to show you how wrong you were, for your blind hatred, and your advocacy of murder and mayhem, all in God's name. Your God.
Corrections:
Muslims
embassies
foretells
aaronssongs
aaronssongs;34215 wrote:
Try your version.
Regards
DL
Hey, I'm on my path...and journey, just like everybody else...trying to find my way....at the end, we'll all know (or at least, that's what I believe)...until then, ain't nobody ever came back from the dead, to let us know how it really goes...so your insight doesn't trump my beliefs, and your beliefs don't cloud my insight.
How dare you compare gay people to Islamists, and using "tactics', no less...?
Gay people have been the objects of "hate crimes"....Matthew Shepherd comes to mind, as well as Michael Sandy. So for you to suggest that it's all a figment of someone's "wild imagination", is dishonest and hateful, in and of itself.
I wish you'd tell me to go and take a "flying leap"...so I can tell you where to kiss. You're hateful and despicable...is me calling a spade a spade going to get me banned?
How dare you, with your self-righteous hypocrisy, chastise, defame and denigrate anyone else's religion, faith or belief. Just who do you think you are? What gives you the right? No one has that right.
There is but one God, some know him as Jehovah, some as Allah, some as the great Almighty, some as the Lord...a rose by any other name.....
The Islamic God is no or more less fake than your God....you think you know God...I say you do not...you do not speak for him/her...you can't even count the many hairs on your own head, let alone, discuss the do's and don'ts of God. Cease and desist...because you have no leg to stand upon. Intolerant and hateful...yet you want others to be understanding of you and yours...it's precisely people like you that are the problem.
Islamists are predators.
Homosexuals are predators. See the excerpts below.
North American Man/Boy Love Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a New York City and San Francisco-based unincorporated organization that advocates the legalization of sexual relations between adult males and under-aged boys. NAMBLA defends what it claims to be the right of minors to explore their sexuality more freely with older men. It has resolved to "end the oppression of men and boys who have freely chosen mutually consenting relationships," in spite of opposition claims that such relationships are child sexual abuse where the minor is unable to give consent. It also calls for "the adoption of laws that both protect children from unwanted sexual experiences and at the same time leave them free to determine the content of their own sexual experiences."[1]
ACLU NAMBLA RAGE PAGE
BOSTON -- The American Civil Liberties Union will represent a group that advocates sex between men and boys in a lawsuit brought by the family of a slain 10-year-old.
The family of Jeffrey Curley of Cambridge said the North American Man/Boy Love Association and its website which is now offline incited the attempted molestation and murder of the boy on Oct. 1, 1997.
One of two men convicted in the killing, Charles Jaynes, 25, reportedly viewed the group's website shortly before the killing, and also had in his possession some of NAMBLA's publications. Also convicted in the killing was 24-year-old Salvatore Sicari.
The ACLU said the case, filed in federal court in mid-May, involves issues of freedom of speech and association?.
Jeffrey Dahmer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer (May 21, 1960 ? November 28, 1994) was an American serial killer.
Dahmer murdered at least 17 men and boys between 1978 and 1991, with the majority of the murders occurring between 1989 and 1991. His murders were particularly gruesome, involving acts of forced sodomy, necrophilia, dismemberment, strangulation, stabbing and cannibalism.
Homosexual Myths
Myth #8:
Homosexuals Are No Threat To Minors.
Fact: In The Gay Report, by homosexual researchers Karla Jay and Allen Young, the authors report data showing that 73 percent of homosexuals surveyed had at some time had sex with boys sixteen to nineteen years of age or younger. ( K. Jay and A. Young 1979)
Fact: Homosexuals account for 30 - 40% of all molestation's of minors in any given year. If 1% - 3% of the population is responsible for over 1/3 of sexual crimes against minors, something must be desperately wrong with this group. (Freund and Watson, 1992) which was reported in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, NARTH)
Fact: Homosexual males are more likely to engage in sex with minors: in fact, they appear to be three times more likely than straight men to engage in adult child sexual relations. NARTH's Executive Director Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, for example, says "that about one third of his 400 adult homosexual clients said they had experienced some form of homosexual abuse before the age of consent, but only two of those cases had been reported."
Fact: In 1990 the largest Dutch gay organization (the COC) achieved a significant victory: lowering of the age of consent for homosexual sex in Holland to 12 (unless the parents object, in which case it goes up to 15). Homosexual groups in England recently lobbied and were successful in changing the legal age of consent from 18 to 16. Gay and Lesbian Associations around the world have also succeeded in lowering the age of consent in, Canada 14, Denmark 15, France 15, Spain 13, Germany 14, Japan 13, Israel 16, Costa Rica to 15, Colombia and Paraguay to 14, and in Argentina to 12. If adult homosexuals are not interested in minors why would they want the age of consent lowered? Source: Human Life International
Fact: If homosexuals are not interested in minors, why would Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund , a gay law firm, sue the Boy Scouts of America in order to have openly gay men as scout leaders? Why would books such as, Heather Has Two Mommies and Daddy?s Roommate along with videos such as, "It Is elementary" that normalize homosexuality be produced for children? Why would a pro homosexual organization such as Planned Parenthood produce a sex education curriculum such as SIECUS which gives instruction in the homosexual lifestyle?
Fact: The homosexual threat to minors was in full view nearly three decades ago, with the release of the 1972 Gay Rights Platform. Activists in Chicago, representing the fledgling homosexual movement, demanded the ?repeal of all state laws prohibiting private sexual acts involving consenting persons,? and the ?repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.?
Fact: A study in Adolescence found that "29% of the adult children of homosexual parents had been specifically subjected to sexual molestation by that homosexual parent, compared to only 0.6% of adult children of heterosexual parents. ? Having a homosexual parent(s) appears to increase the risk of incest with a parent by a factor of about 50." Homosexual Parenting: Placing Children at Risk Issue No.: 238 by: Tim Dailey, Ph. D. Source(Family Research Council)
Fact: Organizations such as the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) lobby for the elimination of age-of-consent laws. (NAMBLA) is endorsed by the homosexual movement. It should also be recalled that a major "right" claimed by many--though not all--homosexuals is that of sexual relations with persons of any age is ok. ?No Place for Homo-Homophobia", San Francisco Sentinel (a gay publication), March 26, 1992.
(THE WORDS OF HOMOSEXUALS TELL HOW THEY ARE A THREAT TO MINORS)
**** Dan Savage, columnist for the homosexual magazine Out, stated that he lives near a park where some local high school soccer teams practice. ?Some of the boys are really something else, and during practice they play shirts and skins. Any gay man who tells you he can walk by a boy?s soccer team without looking is a liar?,? ?Homosexuality and Child Molestation:? Ed Vitagliano
***Carl Maves writing in The Advocate, another magazine for homosexuals, wrote, ?How many gay men, I wonder, would have missed out on a valuable, liberating experience ? one that initiated them into their sexuality ? if it weren?t for so-called molestation??"Getting Over It" in The Advocate, May 5, 1992.
***The San Francisco Sentinel, a Bay Area gay activist newspaper, published a piece arguing that pedophilia is central to male homosexual life."No Place for Homo-Homophobia", San Francisco Sentinel (a gay publication), March 26, 1992.
Greatest I am;34229 wrote:
Hey, I'm on my path...and journey, just like everybody else...trying to find my way....at the end, we'll all know (or at least, that's what I believe)...until then, ain't nobody ever came back from the dead, to let us know how it really goes...so your insight doesn't trump my beliefs, and your beliefs don't cloud my insight.
One person came back from the dead, the Son of God, Jesus of Nazareth.
Islamists are predators.
Homosexuals are predators. See the excerpts below.
North American Man/Boy Love Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a New York City and San Francisco-based unincorporated organization that advocates the legalization of sexual relations between adult males and under-aged boys. NAMBLA defends what it claims to be the right of minors to explore their sexuality more freely with older men. It has resolved to "end the oppression of men and boys who have freely chosen mutually consenting relationships," in spite of opposition claims that such relationships are child sexual abuse where the minor is unable to give consent. It also calls for "the adoption of laws that both protect children from unwanted sexual experiences and at the same time leave them free to determine the content of their own sexual experiences."[1]
ACLU NAMBLA RAGE PAGE
BOSTON -- The American Civil Liberties Union will represent a group that advocates sex between men and boys in a lawsuit brought by the family of a slain 10-year-old.
The family of Jeffrey Curley of Cambridge said the North American Man/Boy Love Association and its website which is now offline incited the attempted molestation and murder of the boy on Oct. 1, 1997.
One of two men convicted in the killing, Charles Jaynes, 25, reportedly viewed the group's website shortly before the killing, and also had in his possession some of NAMBLA's publications. Also convicted in the killing was 24-year-old Salvatore Sicari.
The ACLU said the case, filed in federal court in mid-May, involves issues of freedom of speech and association?.
Jeffrey Dahmer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer (May 21, 1960 ? November 28, 1994) was an American serial killer.
Dahmer murdered at least 17 men and boys between 1978 and 1991, with the majority of the murders occurring between 1989 and 1991. His murders were particularly gruesome, involving acts of forced sodomy, necrophilia, dismemberment, strangulation, stabbing and cannibalism.
Homosexual Myths
Myth #8:
Homosexuals Are No Threat To Minors.
Fact: In The Gay Report, by homosexual researchers Karla Jay and Allen Young, the authors report data showing that 73 percent of homosexuals surveyed had at some time had sex with boys sixteen to nineteen years of age or younger. ( K. Jay and A. Young 1979)
Fact: Homosexuals account for 30 - 40% of all molestation's of minors in any given year. If 1% - 3% of the population is responsible for over 1/3 of sexual crimes against minors, something must be desperately wrong with this group. (Freund and Watson, 1992) which was reported in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, NARTH)
Fact: Homosexual males are more likely to engage in sex with minors: in fact, they appear to be three times more likely than straight men to engage in adult child sexual relations. NARTH's Executive Director Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, for example, says "that about one third of his 400 adult homosexual clients said they had experienced some form of homosexual abuse before the age of consent, but only two of those cases had been reported."
Fact: In 1990 the largest Dutch gay organization (the COC) achieved a significant victory: lowering of the age of consent for homosexual sex in Holland to 12 (unless the parents object, in which case it goes up to 15). Homosexual groups in England recently lobbied and were successful in changing the legal age of consent from 18 to 16. Gay and Lesbian Associations around the world have also succeeded in lowering the age of consent in, Canada 14, Denmark 15, France 15, Spain 13, Germany 14, Japan 13, Israel 16, Costa Rica to 15, Colombia and Paraguay to 14, and in Argentina to 12. If adult homosexuals are not interested in minors why would they want the age of consent lowered? Source: Human Life International
Fact: If homosexuals are not interested in minors, why would Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund , a gay law firm, sue the Boy Scouts of America in order to have openly gay men as scout leaders? Why would books such as, Heather Has Two Mommies and Daddy?s Roommate along with videos such as, "It Is elementary" that normalize homosexuality be produced for children? Why would a pro homosexual organization such as Planned Parenthood produce a sex education curriculum such as SIECUS which gives instruction in the homosexual lifestyle?
Fact: The homosexual threat to minors was in full view nearly three decades ago, with the release of the 1972 Gay Rights Platform. Activists in Chicago, representing the fledgling homosexual movement, demanded the ?repeal of all state laws prohibiting private sexual acts involving consenting persons,? and the ?repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.?
Fact: A study in Adolescence found that "29% of the adult children of homosexual parents had been specifically subjected to sexual molestation by that homosexual parent, compared to only 0.6% of adult children of heterosexual parents. ? Having a homosexual parent(s) appears to increase the risk of incest with a parent by a factor of about 50." Homosexual Parenting: Placing Children at Risk Issue No.: 238 by: Tim Dailey, Ph. D. Source(Family Research Council)
Fact: Organizations such as the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) lobby for the elimination of age-of-consent laws. (NAMBLA) is endorsed by the homosexual movement. It should also be recalled that a major "right" claimed by many--though not all--homosexuals is that of sexual relations with persons of any age is ok. ?No Place for Homo-Homophobia", San Francisco Sentinel (a gay publication), March 26, 1992.
(THE WORDS OF HOMOSEXUALS TELL HOW THEY ARE A THREAT TO MINORS)
**** Dan Savage, columnist for the homosexual magazine Out, stated that he lives near a park where some local high school soccer teams practice. ?Some of the boys are really something else, and during practice they play shirts and skins. Any gay man who tells you he can walk by a boy?s soccer team without looking is a liar?,? ?Homosexuality and Child Molestation:? Ed Vitagliano
***Carl Maves writing in The Advocate, another magazine for homosexuals, wrote, ?How many gay men, I wonder, would have missed out on a valuable, liberating experience ? one that initiated them into their sexuality ? if it weren?t for so-called molestation??"Getting Over It" in The Advocate, May 5, 1992.
***The San Francisco Sentinel, a Bay Area gay activist newspaper, published a piece arguing that pedophilia is central to male homosexual life."No Place for Homo-Homophobia", San Francisco Sentinel (a gay publication), March 26, 1992.
