@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;32505 wrote:I do not read the Bible literally and I do not read the Quran literally as well. I believe that all the old writings took from each other as they would in preparing their text.
Consider that Satan or the devil have no physical or mental existence and are representations of evil ideas and notions. Angels are only representative of good ideas and notions. In our reality there are no supernatural entities except God.
God has no need of tools to give any message that He wants to transmit.
As to Mary, God would not need a human to create some kind of hybrid God/man.
In the Christian Bible God shows disfavour for angels reproducing with women. Would He turn around then and do the same Himself. Not likely.
Jesus was our best and last prophet. Wholly human as all prophets before Him.
If He were divine then His death looses it's meaning in terms of Him being the redeemer and savior of the world.
Your link is an example of prayer and I know quite nice for you. If I were to link you with a Christian prayer you would likely have the same impression of it as I have of yours. If you did not know the language, it would be just noise to you as yours is to me. I cannot judge the beauty of it as you could not judge the beauty of the Christian Hymn.
If you want to get off your high horse and reason religion then let us do so. This is the only way to convert anyone. Zeal is good when well directed in a soft voice. Screams go unheard.
If you would like to comment on my above logic do so with logic, not quotations from a Bible that cannot be taken literally without believing in impossible supernatural entities.
If God is God then you know that He is Perfect and would have no need for a Hell to store imperfections that He would never allow to touch His always Perfect universe. Hell would mean a God who somehow screws up the production of souls. Impossible. Right?
Regards
DL
I understand why you do not want me to support my points from your own bible because as I have showed in this thread with many clear undisputable evidences from your bible that It is nothing but a man-made fabricated book and no sensible person looking for the truth can trust.
Any how, I just want to remind you here that comparing the Noble Quran which is the exact words of Allah (God) with a fabricated corrupted book like the bible is NONSENSE and any fair person would never accept the idea.
When the claims of truth become many, we as Muslims were ordered by Allah to seek the Truth by the proof, by the proof the Truth is known, because always there is only One Truth Which is the real truth.
The Noble Quran is the only book in history that challenges all its doubtful readers to find only one contradiction or error in it!
Allah says in the Quran:
"Do they not then consider the Quran carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein many a contradiction." [Quran 4: 82].
Now, I will bring to you evidences from pure scientific sources that prove the Quran could have never been written by man. The perfect compatibility MIRACLES OF Quran (which was revealed 14 centuries ago) with modern Science prove that this Book could not be authored by man, rather a greater source had to have been the author of this Book
Check for yourself the Quran scientific miracles here
The quran miracles encyclopedia
Watch on videos scientists’ comments on the scientific miracles in the Quran.
Click on the comment to watch the corresponding video.
(1)- Prof. Gerald G. Goeringer
"..this description antedates by many centuries the recording of .. traditional scientific literature."
(2)- Prof. William W. Hey
"I would think it must be [from] the divine being."
(3)- Prof. T. V. N. Persaud
"I would think it must be [from] the divine being."
(4)- Prof. E. Marshall Johnson - 1
"I see nothing in conflict that ...divine intervention was involved".
(5)- Prof. E. Marshall Johnson - 2
"Quran describes .. major events recognized by contemporary science".
(6)- Prof. Alfred Kroner -1
"It is impossible [Muhammad] could have known about the common origin of the universe, scientists only found this out in the last few years using complicated and advanced techology".
(7)- Prof. Alfred Kroner -2
"Someone 1400 years ago could not know the heavens and the earth had the same origin..".
(8)- Prof. Keith Moore -1
"It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God or Allah..".
(9)- Prof. Keith Moore -2
"The only reasonable conclusion is these descriptions were revealed to Muhammad from God".
(10)- Prof. Joe Simpson
"..knowledge in the Quran .. derived from God."
(11)- Prof. Yoshihide Kozai
“I am very much impressed by finding true astronomical facts in Quran".
(12)- Prof. Tejatat Tejasen*
"I believe that everything that has been recorded in the Quran fourteen hundred years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the scientific means." [1 min 35 sec - he makes SHAHADAH: Declaration testimony of Islam].
*Professor Tejasen (above) accepted Islam during this speech
[click here & watch him make shahadah]
These are short parts of many interviews with the Prominent Scientists in the Tv-Program (it is the Truth) which organized by the World Organization of scientific miracles in the Quran, which was broadcast on the Qatari- television for more than three consecutive hours.
The Scientists who were interviewed during this conference are:
1) professeur keith Moore (USA)
is an eminent specialist in world fame in surgery and embryology. this professor wrote live named (the human development). this book was considered as a best work in the world, written by only one author.
2) Professeur Van Bersoud (canada)
is a professor of anatomy, pediatry, and obstetrics-gynaecology and sciences of the reproduction at the university Manitoba in Canada. He was there the president of the Department of anatomy during 16 years. He is very recognized in its field. He is the author or the editor of 22 handbooks and he published more than 181 scientific articles. In 1991, he received price more distinguished allotted in the field of the anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B., Great Price of the Canadian Association of the anatomists.
3) Professeur Joe Leigh Simpson (USA)
is a president of the Department of obstetrics-gynaecology, professor of obstetrics-gynaecology, and professor of human and molecular genetics in Baylor College of Medicine, in Houston, Texas, the United States.
4) Professor Marshal Jhonson
is a professor highly skilled of anatomy and biology related to the development at the university Thomas Jefferson on Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the United States.
5)6) Professeur Youchedi Kuzane (Japan)
is a professor highly skilled at the University of Tokyo with Hongo, Tokyo, Japan, and he was already a director of the national astronomical Observatory with Mitaka, Tokyo, Japan.
7) Professeur Tejatat Tejasen (Thailand)
is president of Autopsy Department in the University Chiang Mai in Thailand.. he was a senior of the Faculty of Medicine of the same university.
He embraced islam after reading the Quran
8) Professor William W. Hay (USA)
is a very known maritime scientist. He is a professor of geological sciences at the University of Colorado with Boulder, Colorado, the United States. Previously, he was the senior of Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science at the University from Miami in Miami, Florida, the United States.
9) Professor Alfred kroner (Germany)
is one of the world`s renowned geologists. He is Professor of Geology and the Chairman of the Department of Geology at the Institute of Geosciences, Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz, Germany.
"We (Allah) will show you (mankind) Our signs/patterns in the horizons/universe and in yourselves until you are convinced that the revelation (Quran) is the truth." [Qur'an, 14:53]
