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If Jesus was God ...

 
 
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2007 04:32 pm
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;30589 wrote:
I include myself in the issue of Jesus. He is misunderstood by many.
In reality God could and does forgive all sin as we go.

We are doing well and God is pleased or He would end this.

Regards
DL


Could it be He hasn't ended this because He is giving all an ample opportunity to repent and do His will?
afinertouch5
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2007 04:43 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;30625 wrote:
Could it be He hasn't ended this because He is giving all an ample opportunity to repent and do His will?
No.:cool:
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aaronssongs
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2007 04:46 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;30625 wrote:
Could it be He hasn't ended this because He is giving all an ample opportunity to repent and do His will?


You know, I might be the 5th or the 6th person he casts into the fire, but I'm almost certain you'll be ahead of me.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2007 04:48 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
Almost only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades.
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Campbell34
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2007 09:53 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;30588 wrote:
[SIZE="3"]The Questions No Christian Wants to Answer...continue[/SIZE]


[SIZE="2"]Question:[/SIZE]

False Biblical Prophesies:

Jesus second Comming accoring to the Bible was to take place in the life of the Disciples, why did not he come then !!?

"For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS. "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." [Matthew 16:27-28]

"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." [Matthew 24:34]

"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." [Mark 13:30]

Paul said that second coming will be in his lifetime:
"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord." [1 Thessalonians 4:16-17]



This is just one of many evidences that prove the fabrications of the man-made Bible and the corrupted Christianity (Trinity paganism).





"Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein many a contradiction." (Qur'an 4: 82).

Click here to hear the Quran beautiful recitation (in Arabic) for any chapter.

And click hear to hear the Quran recitation in Arabic with online audio English translation.


Im a Christian, I will answer the first question. When Jesus said some standing there will not taste of death until they see Christ return this happened 8 days later. And it was not the actual event it was in a vision. And if you read the full text you will see this.

And Matthew 24:34 is an easy one also. What generation was Jesus talking about. Read the text and you will see He was speaking of the generation that saw the fig tree bloom again. The fig tree represents Israel, and Israel had to be first destroyed which it was by the Romans 70 years later. The fig tree bloomed again when Israel declared it's independence in 1948. And the Bible tells us that when this happens the Jews would return to their land and first take back souther Israel which they did in 1948, and then the Bible tells us that the second thing the Jews would do is take back Jerusalem. Which they did in 1967. They did this just as the Bible said they would. And the Bible also tells us that at this time they would be surrounded by enemies which they are. The Bible also tells us that God would allow the Jews to return but not for their sakes. God is going to use the Jews to show the world who He is. God allowed the Jews to return to anger the nations of the world.
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Campbell34
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2007 01:19 am
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;29904 wrote:
[SIZE="2"]If Jesus was God ... [/SIZE]


Then how could God sat down at the right hand of himself !!? (as stated in this biblical passage) :

"So then, when the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God." [Mark 16:19]


The Bible tells us there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word,(Jesus) and the Holy Ghost, and these three are ONE. And that is why in the first Book of the OLD TESTAMENT God states, let (US) make man in (OUR) image, and in (OUR) likeness. God is three persons, that = ONE GOD.
And remember, the Father also adresses Jesus as God as well. For it was the Father who spoke to Jesus and said to Him, your Throne Oh God is for ever and ever.
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SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2007 07:43 am
@SWORD of GOD,
According to the fabricated bible, Jesus in his second comming would judge and repay every man according to his deeds, and that was to happen in the life of the disciples, BUT THIS BIBLICAL PROPHECY NEVER HAPPENED !!


"For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS. "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." [Matthew 16:27-28]
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2007 10:42 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;30625 wrote:
Could it be He hasn't ended this because He is giving all an ample opportunity to repent and do His will?


His will is not clear to enough.
His will is not known to two.
His will is known by many one's.

At end time we are to elect a God. Perhaps then we will have a better view of the map.

Regards
DL
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2007 05:07 pm
@rugonnacry,
[SIZE="3"]The Questions No Christian Wants to Answer...continue[/SIZE]


[SIZE="2"]Question:[/SIZE]

Biblical Treatment of Your Hemorrhoids

How can the Bible be a DIVINE book when it contains nonsense teachings like how to treat your hemorrhoids by making images of them !!?

"Wherefore ye shall make images of your emerods, and images of your mice that mar the land; and ye shall give glory unto the God of Israel: peradventure he will lighten his hand from off you, and from off your gods, and from off your land." [1 Samuel 6:5] KJV


Emerods = Hemorrhoids (WebBible Encyclopedia)

This is just one of many evidences that prove the fabrications of the man-made Bible.





"Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein many a contradiction." (Qur'an 4: 82).

Click here to hear the Quran beautiful recitation (in Arabic) for any chapter.

And click hear to hear the Quran recitation in Arabic with online audio English translation.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2007 06:55 pm
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;30842 wrote:
His will is not clear to enough.
His will is not known to two.
His will is known by many one's.

At end time we are to elect a God. Perhaps then we will have a better view of the map.

Regards
DL


Elect? Do you mean choose?
Campbell34
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2007 09:35 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;30750 wrote:
According to the fabricated bible, Jesus in his second comming would judge and repay every man according to his deeds, and that was to happen in the life of the disciples, BUT THIS BIBLICAL PROPHECY NEVER HAPPENED !!


"For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS. "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." [Matthew 16:27-28]


When you read the Bible you really need to read the entire text to understand the meaning. If you had read the very beginning of the next chapter it tells you that Jesus took with Him Peter, James, and John up to the mountain and then was Transfigured before them, and His face shone like the Sun. And His garments became white as light. This event was a vision of the second coming. The prophecy did happen, you just failed to read the rest of the text. This is a good example on how not to read the Bible. You fail to read the full text in order to make the Bible appear wrong.
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Campbell34
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2007 09:49 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;30998 wrote:
[SIZE="3"]The Questions No Christian Wants to Answer...continue[/SIZE]


[SIZE="2"]Question:[/SIZE]

Biblical Treatment of Your Hemorrhoids

How can the Bible be a DIVINE book when it contains nonsense teachings like how to treat your hemorrhoids by making images of them !!?

"Wherefore ye shall make images of your emerods, and images of your mice that mar the land; and ye shall give glory unto the God of Israel: peradventure he will lighten his hand from off you, and from off your gods, and from off your land." [1 Samuel 6:5] KJV


Emerods = Hemorrhoids (WebBible Encyclopedia)

This is just one of many evidences that prove the fabrications of the man-made Bible.





"Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein many a contradiction." (Qur'an 4: 82).

Click here to hear the Quran beautiful recitation (in Arabic) for any chapter.

And click hear to hear the Quran recitation in Arabic with online audio English translation.


This is nothing more than God useing His power to mock their false Gods of Gold. The God of the Bible would often use some sort of plague to get those who oppose Him to submit. Just as He used frogs and plagues to force Egypt to let the Children of Israel go.
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SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2007 12:25 am
@SWORD of GOD,
The above poster is a very good example of Christian Apologists who will try to twist the meanings of the clear obvious words to suit their corrupted faith no matter what proof you show them.
Campbell34
 
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Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2007 12:30 am
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;31034 wrote:
The above poster is a very good example of Christian Apologists who will try to twist the meanings of the clear obvious words to suit their corrupted faith no matter what proof you show them.


If I wanted to twist the meaning, I would of stopped at the end of the chapter and not read the full text. If you want half a truth you read half the story. If you want the full story, you have to read the whole story.
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Campbell34
 
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Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2007 12:55 am
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;30588 wrote:
[SIZE="3"]The Questions No Christian Wants to Answer...continue[/SIZE]


[SIZE="2"]Question:[/SIZE]

False Biblical Prophesies:

Jesus second Comming accoring to the Bible was to take place in the life of the Disciples, why did not he come then !!?

"For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS. "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." [Matthew 16:27-28]

"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." [Matthew 24:34]

"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." [Mark 13:30]

Paul said that second coming will be in his lifetime:
"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord." [1 Thessalonians 4:16-17]



This is just one of many evidences that prove the fabrications of the man-made Bible and the corrupted Christianity (Trinity paganism).





"Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein many a contradiction." (Qur'an 4: 82).

Click here to hear the Quran beautiful recitation (in Arabic) for any chapter.

And click hear to hear the Quran recitation in Arabic with online audio English translation.


Matthew 16:27 & 28 was fulfilled in the very next chapter which you ignore.

Matthew 24:34 & Mark 13:30 was to be fulfilled by the generation that saw the parable of the fig tree, which you ignored.

1 Thessalonians 4:16,17 tells of Pauls belief in Gods return in his life time. Yet that was Pauls belief and not Gods. For Jesus tells us that know man knows the hour when God will return. So again, you have to read all of the Bible and not just the parts that you hope will disprove it.

If you want half of the truth, quote only half of the text. If you want all of the truth, quote all of the text.
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2007 08:52 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;31012 wrote:
Elect? Do you mean choose?


Yes. We will need a world religion to fight and balance the world government.

Regards
DL
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2007 08:58 am
@Campbell34,
Campbell34;31036 wrote:
Matthew 16:27 & 28 was fulfilled in the very next chapter which you ignore.

Matthew 24:34 & Mark 13:30 was to be fulfilled by the generation that saw the parable of the fig tree, which you ignored.

1 Thessalonians 4:16,17 tells of Pauls belief in Gods return in his life time. Yet that was Pauls belief and not Gods. For Jesus tells us that know man knows the hour when God will return. So again, you have to read all of the Bible and not just the parts that you hope will disprove it.

If you want half of the truth, quote only half of the text. If you want all of the truth, quote all of the text.


This particular sword only has the one edge instead of the two.
He is indoctrinated to the max.
He preaches much but never answers direct question on logic or scripture. His indoctrinators have yet to give him this ability or training. Or perhaps it is we who are training him to slide away from direct answers. Perhaps he is a computer program.

Regards
DL
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2007 05:25 pm
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;31062 wrote:
Yes. We will need a world religion to fight and balance the world government.

Regards
DL


The end is near for each and every one of us. We do not know the day or the hour. It is our prerogative to choose our God now. Isn't that the message of the Bible. God says He places before us the choice between life and death and asks us to choose life.
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2007 10:40 pm
@Greatest I am cv,
The Questions No Christian Wants to Answer..continue without any real challenge

Undeniable Contradictions in the Bible

QUESTION:

Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?

(a) Yes (Matthew 11:14, 17:10-13): "And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come." [Matthew 11:4]


OR


(b) No (John 1:19-21): "This is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent to him priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, "Who are you?, And he confessed and did not deny, but confessed, "I am not the Christ." They asked him, "What then? Are you Elijah?" And he said, "I am not." "Are you the Prophet?" And he answered, "No." [John 1:19-21]


So, How can the Bible be a Divine book when it contradicts itself like this !!? How can you trust such a book !?

Anyone who does not have a bible, can check the verses for himself from this well-known search Bible website (Online Parallel Bible): Online Parallel Bible: Weaving God's Word into the Web

This adds to the long list of evidences about the fabrications in the man-made bible.




"Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein many a contradiction." (Qur'an 4: 82).

Click here to hear the Quran beautiful recitation (in Arabic) for any chapter.

And click hear to hear the Quran recitation in Arabic with online audio English translation.
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2007 09:05 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;31183 wrote:
The end is near for each and every one of us. We do not know the day or the hour. It is our prerogative to choose our God now. Isn't that the message of the Bible. God says He places before us the choice between life and death and asks us to choose life.


I do not recall God asking me if I wanted to live or not. I was simply born.
As to a world government, I am basing my view on what I see happening with the world and the fact that many of our problems will take cooperation of the whole world.
Jesus said that the time of the end was at hand. It was either His end He was speaking to or He missed on that prediction.
The questioner at that point in time was I believe talking about the end of all.

Regards
DL
 

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