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@SWORD of GOD,

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@Drnaline,

Drnaline;29809 wrote:

You mean to tell me you translate all your posts? Nice.

so u dont object to any points of my post except this one?

i think u forget that iam of arabian descent , so i have to translate my posts because i think of them in arabic, i can not post arabic can i? so those were the only words of my thoughts (or post) that i couldnot translate, why is it that i feel there is a tendency apearing(a pattern) to discredit me? u suspect that these r my posts? well i might add that they are spontaneous too , i answer right after reading ur posts, i dont take any time to organize because my thoughts (thank God) r already organized.

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@politically-wrong,

politically-wrong;30320 wrote:

so u dont object to any points of my post except this one?

i think u forget that iam of arabian descent , so i have to translate my posts because i think of them in arabic, i can not post arabic can i? so those were the only words of my thoughts (or post) that i couldnot translate, why is it that i feel there is a tendency apearing(a pattern) to discredit me? u suspect that these r my posts? well i might add that they are spontaneous too , i answer right after reading ur posts, i dont take any time to organize because my thoughts (thank God) r already organized.

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so u dont object to any points of my post except this one?

I don't see the mentality changing in 500 or 1500 years. There is no way in my mind that the little girl was post pubescent, 9 or 12 i don't matter to me, it was still a child.

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i think u forget that iam of arabian descent , so i have to translate my posts because i think of them in arabic, i can not post arabic can i?

I don't think you can post arabic.

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so those were the only words of my thoughts (or post) that i couldnot translate, why is it that i feel there is a tendency apearing(a pattern) to discredit me?

Some are a little sceptical of your intensions on this site. We have had what i would call extremists on here who are no where near your temperment. I for one welcome the change, but that does not mean I will let down my guard.

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so those were the only words of my thoughts (or post) that i couldnot translate, why is it that i feel there is a tendency apearing(a pattern) to discredit me?

I believe they are yours.

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well i might add that they are spontaneous too , i answer right after reading ur posts, i dont take any time to organize because my thoughts (thank God) r already organized.

Good for you. AS i said before, i enjoy the exchanges.

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@Drnaline,

Drnaline;30331 wrote:

I don't see the mentality changing in 500 or 1500 years. There is no way in my mind that the little girl was post pubescent, 9 or 12 i don't matter to me, it was still a child.I don't think you can post arabic.Some are a little sceptical of your intensions on this site. We have had what i would call extremists on here who are no where near your temperment. I for one welcome the change, but that does not mean I will let down my guard. I believe they are yours.Good for you. AS i said before, i enjoy the exchanges.

ok time will take care of all that, i think by posting my photo i kind of show that i dont have any hidden agenda's(otherwise i would never show my face)
lets hope its works for the good of something or anything.

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@SWORD of GOD,

Lets hope so.

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@mako cv,

mako;30031 wrote:

The Transfiguration was a vision of Christ second coming. And that vision also appears in Luke 9:28. The Bible did not miss a beat here. (And it came to pass about EIGHT DAYS AFTER THESE SAYINGS,) he took Peter and John, and James, and went up into a mountain to pray. In verse 32 Peter and those who were with him awoke and saw Christ in His glory.

And as far as the East Gate, the orginal does exist. And if you fully read the text it states in Ezekiel Chapter 44:3 It is for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread before the Lord; HE SHALL ENTER BY THE WAY OF THE PORCH OF THAT GATE,

Another words it is an addition to the orginal gate. And as it turns out the orginal gate was buried long ago, it was not destroyed. And the orginal Gate now is the foundation for the new East Gate that we see today. This prophecy required that not only the Old Gate should remain, but it also had to have a second gate connected to it. Which it does. This is another prophecy right on. For this prophecy to be fulfilled it also required that the new Gate to be shut or sealed. It has been. And it also required that any attempts to open it would fail. There have been two attempts to open it by Moslems to break the prophecy. Both attempts have failed. We Christians now know that only one person can open this Gate, and that is the person of Jesus Christ.

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@z0z0,

z0z0;13137 wrote:

Regardless of how the religions started - only ONE religious beliefs system was benevolent enough to create free democratic pluralistic societies which even allow an attack on their very foundations.

Christianity has created freedom. Jesus did not rule by sword.
Islam has not created freedom. Mohammed did rule by the sword.

Sword of God - I take it you are a Muslim. Interesting that you have your handle "Sword".
Why are you so passionate at showing the flaws in Christianity?

Reality - all Religious books have internal contradictions. Maybe Christianity more than others but that is because it is men that wrote and transcribed them. The transcriptions are men's faulty understanding of who God is. Eventually we will figure it out.

Is not Islam also based on the same myths of the Old Testament?

Personally - I will never fight over the concept of whether Jesus is God or if he is a Son of God (less than God).

If I was God - I would have gone to earth (or sent a clone replica - because since I am God of the universe there are a lot of other planets I have to visit as well) to earth literally on a grand ship of some sort which everyone would see and know it was something heavenly. I would have been a magical superman that would amaze the people with my wonders. I would have given them my writings directly - hand out indestructible books in many languages so there would be no confusion. Then just like the Rolling Stones - I would go on a world wide tour and hand out T-Shirts so that everyone on earth would get the same message.

If he was so peaceful then why did Jesus say "Think not that I came in peace:I came not to send peace but a sword."(Matt 10:34) "He that have no sword,let him sell his garment, and but one."(Luke 22:36). And the most revealing aspect of his character was his promotion of eternal torment!!!!!

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@afinertouch5,

afinertouch5;30502 wrote:

If he was so peaceful then why did Jesus say "Think not that I came in peace:I came not to send peace but a sword."(Matt 10:34) "He that have no sword,let him sell his garment, and but one."(Luke 22:36). And the most revealing aspect of his character was his promotion of eternal torment!!!!!

Except for the fact that He showed His benevolence by dying for all sin, closing Hell as an option after death.
Sword in those days also referred to the two edged sword of knowledge. He gave us a few slices when He was here.

Regards
DL

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@SWORD of GOD,

Oh please spare me your apologist dribble. If it meant knowledge why would he say "I came not to send peace.??? And he was telling people to sell their garment to buy knowledge? Give me a break. And what kind of option is hell?

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@afinertouch5,

afinertouch5;30525 wrote:

Oh please spare me your apologist dribble. If it meant knowledge why would he say "I came not to send peace.??? And he was telling people to sell their garment to buy knowledge? Give me a break. And what kind of option is hell?

Hell is not an option at all.
Hell has no existence. Jesus took care of it with the forgiveness of sin.

Regards
DL

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@SWORD of GOD,

SWORD of GOD;29854 wrote:

Brother "Politically-wrong", believe me.. you are wasting your time in responding to an arrogant person who freely chooses to live and die Blind and Deaf. No matter what documented crystal clear proofs and sensible arguments you show him, he would never accept the truth because he wants to be a Trinity paganist.

Ah, somebody else who sees the pattern. Yet, at every opportunity they cry" Proof, proof, where's your proof?". Thank you for identifying the rub.

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@SWORD of GOD,

I haven't seen any proof, you keep confusing it with opinion.

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@Drnaline,

Drnaline;30532 wrote:

I haven't seen any proof, you keep confusing it with opinion.

I'm not confused. I know the difference. And if you were someone (worthy), I might do the leg work...but since I fail to see your significance and contribution to the discourse, I won't. Problem?

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@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;30528 wrote:

Hell is not an option at all.
Hell has no existence. Jesus took care of it with the forgiveness of sin.

Regards
DL

Well I certainly agree with the you on hell but not Jesus!:cool:

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@afinertouch5,

afinertouch5;30540 wrote:

Well I certainly agree with the you on hell but not Jesus!:cool:

Jesus did die for the sins of the world, yet the Bible is very clear that the only ones who's sins are forgiven are those who believe on the name of Jesus Christ. Those who donot believe in his name will not be forgiven of their sins. The Bible is clear on this point. If there was no Hell Jesus would not of spent one third of His ministery warning people of Hell.

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@rugonnacry,

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False Biblical Prophesies:

Jesus second Comming accoring to the Bible was to take place in the life of the Disciples, why did not he come then !!?

"For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS. "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." [Matthew 16:27-28]

"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." [Matthew 24:34]

"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." [Mark 13:30]

Paul said that second coming will be in his lifetime:
"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord." [1 Thessalonians 4:16-17]

This is just one of many evidences that prove the fabrications of the man-made Bible and the corrupted Christianity (Trinity paganism).

"Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein many a contradiction." (Qur'an 4: 82).

Click here to hear the Quran beautiful recitation (in Arabic) for any chapter.

And click hear to hear the Quran recitation in Arabic with online audio English translation.

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@afinertouch5,

afinertouch5;30540 wrote:

Well I certainly agree with the you on hell but not Jesus!:cool:

I include myself in the issue of Jesus. He is misunderstood by many.
In reality God could and does forgive all sin as we go.

We are doing well and God is pleased or He would end this.

Regards
DL

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@rugonnacry,

Sword

The sword of God has two edges. One good one evil.

You call other religions names and denigrate them.

Other religions do not do that to you.

Why do you do it?

Regards
DL

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@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;30591 wrote:

Sword

The sword of God has two edges. One good one evil.

You call other religions names and denigrate them.

Other religions do not do that to you.

Why do you do it?

Regards
DL

I think I can answer that.... Some People, some Christians, misrepresent the Bible, and God's word, to serve their own selfish ends. The Crusades was a manifestation of this. Slavery in America was a manifestation of this. The Catholic Church's complicity in the Holocaust was a manifestation of this.
Instead of people being truthful about shortcomings, mistakes, and sins, they choose to be in denial, rewrite history, or to make excuses.
Some use the Bible as a weapon to denigrate gays, women, and minorities...when it is clear that Christ didn't condemn anyone, readily forgave, even at the Cross. How can we do less?
Sometimes religion is not religion...sometimes, it's not even of God.
On the last day....we'll all know, who was right and who was wrong...who judged and who will be judged. Wait.

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@aaronssongs,

aaronssongs;30606 wrote:

I think I can answer that.... Some People, some Christians, misrepresent the Bible, and God's word, to serve their own selfish ends. The Crusades was a manifestation of this. Slavery in America was a manifestation of this. The Catholic Church's complicity in the Holocaust was a manifestation of this.
Instead of people being truthful about shortcomings, mistakes, and sins, they choose to be in denial, rewrite history, or to make excuses.
Some use the Bible as a weapon to denigrate gays, women, and minorities...when it is clear that Christ didn't condemn anyone, readily forgave, even at the Cross. How can we do less?
Sometimes religion is not religion...sometimes, it's not even of God.
On the last day....we'll all know, who was right and who was wrong...who judged and who will be judged. Wait.

Thanks.

Regards
DL

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