If Jesus was God ...

You mean to tell me you translate all your posts? Nice.

so u dont object to any points of my post except this one?

i think u forget that iam of arabian descent , so i have to translate my posts because i think of them in arabic, i can not post arabic can i? so those were the only words of my thoughts (or post) that i couldnot translate, why is it that i feel there is a tendency apearing(a pattern) to discredit me? u suspect that these r my posts? well i might add that they are spontaneous too , i answer right after reading ur posts, i dont take any time to organize because my thoughts (thank God) r already organized.

so u dont object to any points of my post except this one?

i think u forget that iam of arabian descent , so i have to translate my posts because i think of them in arabic, i can not post arabic can i?

so those were the only words of my thoughts (or post) that i couldnot translate, why is it that i feel there is a tendency apearing(a pattern) to discredit me?

so those were the only words of my thoughts (or post) that i couldnot translate, why is it that i feel there is a tendency apearing(a pattern) to discredit me?

well i might add that they are spontaneous too , i answer right after reading ur posts, i dont take any time to organize because my thoughts (thank God) r already organized.

I don't see the mentality changing in 500 or 1500 years. There is no way in my mind that the little girl was post pubescent, 9 or 12 i don't matter to me, it was still a child.I don't think you can post arabic.Some are a little sceptical of your intensions on this site. We have had what i would call extremists on here who are no where near your temperment. I for one welcome the change, but that does not mean I will let down my guard. I believe they are yours.Good for you. AS i said before, i enjoy the exchanges.

Kinda stretching it there, aren?t you?the transfiguration can hardly be considered the son coming in his kingdom.
What the Bible says about the End of the World
The end will come within the lifetime of Jesus's listeners.
"Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." -- Matthew16:28
"But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God." -- Luke 9:27
"Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation." -- Matthew 23:36
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." -- Matthew 24:34
"Nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven." -- Matthew 26:64
"Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power." -- Mark 9:1
"Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done." -- Mark 13:30
"And ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven." -- Mark 14:62
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled." -- Luke 21:32
"Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?" -- John 21:22
The end will come within the lifetime of the the New Testament authors.
"Waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ ... that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ." -- 1 Corinthians 1:7-8
"But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none." -- 1 Corinthians 7:29
"That ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ. -- Philippians 1:10
"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." -- 1 Thessalonians 4:17
"I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." -- 1 Thessalonians 5:23
"Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son...." -- Hebrews 1:2
"But now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself." -- Hebrews 9:26
"Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you." -- 1 Peter 1:20
"But the end of all things is at hand." -- 1 Peter 4:7
"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." -- 1 John 2:18
The end will come soon. (Within a couple thousand years or so.)
"The Lord is at hand." -- Philippians 4:5
"For the coming of the Lord draweth nigh." -- James 5:8
"For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry." -- Hebrews 10:37
"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass. -- Revelation 1:1
"The time is at hand." -- Revelation 1:3
"Behold, I come quickly." -- Revelation 3:11, 22:7, 22:12
"Surely I come quickly." -- Revelation 22:20


Ezekiel 44:1-3 Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut. Then said the Lord unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the Lord, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut. It is for the prince; the prince!
Actually it says that the gate will be shut?shut implies closed by a moveable barrier (also a gate)?the East Gate of Jerusalem is not shut, it no longer exists! There are presently two East Gates in Jerusalem, the Lion?s Gate constructed by Sultan Suleiman, who according to legend placed lions on both sides to prevent his dying by an attack of lions. The other East Gate is called the Golden or Mercy Gate and is dated to the post Byzantine period?this is the one that Christians claim Ezekiel was writing about. The original walls and gates of Jersusalem no long exist except in fragments. Another prophecy gone awry!


There can be no attempts at unsealing what no longer exists? :patriot:

Regardless of how the religions started - only ONE religious beliefs system was benevolent enough to create free democratic pluralistic societies which even allow an attack on their very foundations.

Christianity has created freedom. Jesus did not rule by sword.
Islam has not created freedom. Mohammed did rule by the sword.

Sword of God - I take it you are a Muslim. Interesting that you have your handle "Sword".
Why are you so passionate at showing the flaws in Christianity?

Reality - all Religious books have internal contradictions. Maybe Christianity more than others but that is because it is men that wrote and transcribed them. The transcriptions are men's faulty understanding of who God is. Eventually we will figure it out.

Is not Islam also based on the same myths of the Old Testament?

Personally - I will never fight over the concept of whether Jesus is God or if he is a Son of God (less than God).

If I was God - I would have gone to earth (or sent a clone replica - because since I am God of the universe there are a lot of other planets I have to visit as well) to earth literally on a grand ship of some sort which everyone would see and know it was something heavenly. I would have been a magical superman that would amaze the people with my wonders. I would have given them my writings directly - hand out indestructible books in many languages so there would be no confusion. Then just like the Rolling Stones - I would go on a world wide tour and hand out T-Shirts so that everyone on earth would get the same message.

If he was so peaceful then why did Jesus say "Think not that I came in peace:I came not to send peace but a sword."(Matt 10:34) "He that have no sword,let him sell his garment, and but one."(Luke 22:36). And the most revealing aspect of his character was his promotion of eternal torment!!!!!

Oh please spare me your apologist dribble. If it meant knowledge why would he say "I came not to send peace.??? And he was telling people to sell their garment to buy knowledge? Give me a break. And what kind of option is hell?

Brother "Politically-wrong", believe me.. you are wasting your time in responding to an arrogant person who freely chooses to live and die Blind and Deaf. No matter what documented crystal clear proofs and sensible arguments you show him, he would never accept the truth because he wants to be a Trinity paganist.

I haven't seen any proof, you keep confusing it with opinion.

Hell is not an option at all.
Hell has no existence. Jesus took care of it with the forgiveness of sin.

Regards
DL

Well I certainly agree with the you on hell but not Jesus!:cool:

Well I certainly agree with the you on hell but not Jesus!:cool:

Sword

The sword of God has two edges. One good one evil.

You call other religions names and denigrate them.

Other religions do not do that to you.

Why do you do it?

Regards
DL

I think I can answer that.... Some People, some Christians, misrepresent the Bible, and God's word, to serve their own selfish ends. The Crusades was a manifestation of this. Slavery in America was a manifestation of this. The Catholic Church's complicity in the Holocaust was a manifestation of this.
Instead of people being truthful about shortcomings, mistakes, and sins, they choose to be in denial, rewrite history, or to make excuses.
Some use the Bible as a weapon to denigrate gays, women, and minorities...when it is clear that Christ didn't condemn anyone, readily forgave, even at the Cross. How can we do less?
Sometimes religion is not religion...sometimes, it's not even of God.
On the last day....we'll all know, who was right and who was wrong...who judged and who will be judged. Wait.