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@SWORD of GOD,

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"And who does more wrong than the one
who invents a lie against Allah,
while he is being invited to Islam?
And Allah guides not the people who are
Zalimun (polytheists, wrong-doers and disbelievers) folk.

They intend to put out the Light of Allah
(i.e. the religion of Islam, this Qur'an, and
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him))
with their mouths. But Allah will bring
His Light to perfection even though the
disbelievers hate (it).

He (Allah) it is Who has sent His Messenger
(Muhammad (peace be upon him)) with guidance
and the religion of truth (Islamic Monotheism)
to make it victorious over all (other) religions
even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, i
dolaters, and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah
and in His Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him) hate (it)."

(Qur'an 61: 7-9)

Who puts in the "( )" ? For example: "(other)"

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@chico,

Sword of God

With respect, to my Franglais ears it is just gibberish. The translation though is OK.

Is the God of the Qur'an a God of inclusion or a God of exclusion.
Some Christians read their Bible and end with a God of Exclusion.
They denigrate women and homosexuals and have all kinds of ideas that there is a Heaven for some and a Hell for others. Even though Jesus died to forgive all sin.

Does your God find a way to include all of the souls that He has created into Heaven or does your God need a Hell to store His imperfect souls?

Regards
DL

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@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;26653 wrote:

Sword of God

With respect, to my Franglais ears it is just gibberish. The translation though is OK.

Is the God of the Qur'an a God of inclusion or a God of exclusion.
Some Christians read their Bible and end with a God of Exclusion.
They denigrate women and homosexuals and have all kinds of ideas that there is a Heaven for some and a Hell for others. Even though Jesus died to forgive all sin.

Does your God find a way to include all of the souls that He has created into Heaven or does your God need a Hell to store His imperfect souls?

Regards
DL

My God is your God too. He is the Creator. Islam is the religion of JUSTICE.

"Say (O Muhammad) : If you love Allah, follow me: Allah will love you, and grant you protection from your sins. And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. Say: Obey Allah and the Messenger, but if they turn back, Allah surely loves not the disbelievers." (Quran 3:30-31)

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@chico,

The Questions No Christian Wants to Answer..continue without any real challenge

Undeniable Contradictions in the Bible

QUESTION:

How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?

(a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8).

OR

(b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9).

So, How can the Bible be a Divine book when it contradicts itself like this !!?

This adds to the long list of evidences about the fabrications in the man-made bible.

"Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein many a contradiction." (Qur'an 4: 82).

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@markx15,

Only fundamentalists expect the Bible to be perfect.
The Vatican has even admitted that the Bible contains contradictions and passages that are not to be read literally.

Perhaps you should look for the philosophy that is within the Bible and not worry so much about every exact word. No one expects it to be exact and without flaw, after all it is only made up of the books that made the final cut.

Regards
DL

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@SWORD of GOD,

Quote:

Islam is the religion of JUSTICE.

Funny, I thought it was the religion of peace:

TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Verses of Violence

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@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;26873 wrote:

Only fundamentalists expect the Bible to be perfect.
The Vatican has even admitted that the Bible contains contradictions and passages that are not to be read literally.

Perhaps you should look for the philosophy that is within the Bible and not worry so much about every exact word. No one expects it to be exact and without flaw, after all it is only made up of the books that made the final cut.

Regards
DL

Judges 3:20-23

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@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;26873 wrote:

Only fundamentalists expect the Bible to be perfect.
The Vatican has even admitted that the Bible contains contradictions and passages that are not to be read literally.

Perhaps you should look for the philosophy that is within the Bible and not worry so much about every exact word. No one expects it to be exact and without flaw, after all it is only made up of the books that made the final cut.

Regards
DL

All those massive number of errors and contradictions prove without any doubt that this Bible IS NOT from GOD. It was fabricated by men. As the Bible is the source of faith and laws for Christians and Jews -they claim it is a DIVINE BOOK (OT and/or NT), this should force them to question the truth of their corrupted faith because it must had be also corrupted and fabricated.

You can act as a typical christian/jewish apologist and list all false excuses for the bible but that will not make it from God.

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@SWORD of GOD,

SWORD of GOD;27039 wrote:

All those massive number of errors and contradictions prove without any doubt that this Bible IS NOT from GOD. It was fabricated by men. As the Bible is the source of faith and laws for Christians and Jews -they claim it is a DIVINE BOOK (OT and/or NT), this should force them to question the truth of their corrupted faith because it must had be also corrupted and fabricated.

You can act as a typical christian/jewish apologist and list all false excuses for the bible but that will not make it from God.

If the Bible was just a fabricated Book, why are the end time prophecies true?
And why did Jesus Christ fulfill all 300 Old Testament prophecies of His first coming literally?

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@SWORD of GOD,

SWORD of GOD;12915 wrote:

Was Jesus the first (and only) crucified SAVIOR (as claimed by christians)!?

See this historical document stating that there were 16 crucified SAVIORS before Jesus!

Pagans' saviors :Historical Documents: Kersey Graves: The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors: Chapter 16: Sixteen Saviors Crucified

There may of been 16 who claim to be crucified SAVIOURS, yet there was only one of them that fulfilled the 300 prophecies of the Old Testament. I find it nothing short of remarkable how so many people just cannot bring themselves to accept Jesus Christ , and they will jump through hoops to try and ignore what is so obvious. The true Saviour according to the prophecy would be rejected by His own people, but would be the light unto the Gentiles. Now lets see, which one of the sixteen Saviours has become the light to the Gentiles? I guess we will have to put our thinking caps on for that one. I wonder who that could be?

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@SWORD of GOD,

SWORD of GOD;12913 wrote:

MUSLIMS believe that Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) is a messenger from God. He was sent from God Almighty to deliver God's words to his people. Jesus was never God, nor ever claimed to be God. Jesus was a humble wonderful human being just like the rest of the Prophets and Messengers of God. Muslims also believe that Jesus was never crucified, nor ever died on the cross, nor ever wanted to die on the cross, nor ever was sent to earth to die on the cross.

I invite you to listen to this beautiful audio lecture by Gary Miller (click on the link below, listen and enjoy the Truth):

by Gary Miller

My next question would be, why do Muslims even believe in Jesus at all? Since the only real knowledge we have of Him comes from the Bible, it appears you pick and choose out of the Bible what you want to believe. This can be very dangerous, especially when the Bible gives strong warnings to people who play with Gods Word.

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@markx15,

markx15;12916 wrote:

I agree with you that people sanctify Jesus to the point of saying he is God, but then again the religion is called Christianity.

Well the Father calls Jesus God also. Hebrews 1:8-9 But of the Son He says, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of His Kingdom.

It is also pointed out that Jesus Christ made all things. Only God make all things, and Jesus Christ is God.

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@markx15,

Don't attack Quran when you are so ignorant about it. You can hear the Quran beautiful recitation (in Arabic) here for any chapter: IslamWeb - English

And you can hear the Quran recitation in Arabic with online audio English translation here Quran Recitaion with English Translation

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@SWORD of GOD,

Sword- This stuff is in the Qur'an:

TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Verses of Violence

Can I attack that?

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@SWORD of GOD,

I think both books are rubbish some people who hit the hashish too hard wrote. They will literally contradict themselves on the same page, and they condone committing huge travesties in the name of god. Stoning people? C'mon, I don't care what the culture is, or what is reason is, no one I worship is going to have EVER instructed or even ALLOWED someone to do that in his name.

How do you overlook stuff like that?

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@Arterion,

Arterion;27181 wrote:

I think both books are rubbish some people who hit the hashish too hard wrote. They will literally contradict themselves on the same page, and they condone committing huge travesties in the name of god. Stoning people? C'mon, I don't care what the culture is, or what is reason is, no one I worship is going to have EVER instructed or even ALLOWED someone to do that in his name.

How do you overlook stuff like that?

As the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the Bible shows us both the Christ and the Antichrist. It is to us to dither out who is speaking.
You seem to recognize the Antichrist. We will see if you as knowledgeable with the Christ.

Regards
DL

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@SWORD of GOD,

SWORD of GOD;27049 wrote:

Don't attack Quran when you are so ignorant about it. You can hear the Quran beautiful recitation (in Arabic) here for any chapter: IslamWeb - English

And you can hear the Quran recitation in Arabic with online audio English translation here Quran Recitaion with English Translation

If the Quran cannot stand up to attack then it is too weak to lead man.
Some think that man must defend it with violence.
Ask Salmond Rushdie, he knows a few.

Regards
DL

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@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;27202 wrote:

If the Quran cannot stand up to attack then it is too weak to lead man.
Some think that man must defend it with violence.
Ask Salmond Rushdie, he knows a few.

Regards
DL

You missed the point. I post for those who are sincerely seeking the TRUTH not for arrogant persons.

You can choose to believe salman rushdie or even Satan himself and reject all sensible evidences and crystal clear proofs that lead to the TRUTH.

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@SWORD of GOD,

SWORD of GOD;27225 wrote:

You missed the point. I post for those who are sincerely seeking the TRUTH not for arrogant persons.

You can choose to believe salman rushdie or even Satan himself and reject all sensible evidences and crystal clear proofs that lead to the TRUTH.

Let us compare God's then.
I follow a Christian philosophy with a twist.
God is Perfect and only produces Perfection.
He creates all souls Perfect and gives us all a Perfect nature to follow.
Some to good, some to evil but still within God's Perfect envelope.
Those who are prone to evil are automatically forgiven thanks to Jesus who is the redeemer of the all.

How does your God compare.

Regards
DL

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@SWORD of GOD,

SWORD of GOD;27225 wrote:

You missed the point. I post for those who are sincerely seeking the TRUTH not for arrogant persons.

You can choose to believe salman rushdie or even Satan himself and reject all sensible evidences and crystal clear proofs that lead to the TRUTH.

Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. The rocks cry out this truth.

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