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If Jesus was God ...

 
 
chico
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jul, 2007 09:24 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;25806 wrote:
Vatican's New Catechism declares Muslims and Jews to be saved!

Vatican's New Catechism declares Muslims and Jews to be saved!

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."[330]

This paragraph essentially proclaims that "the plan of salvation" includes all faiths that acknowledge the true creator. The reasoning given is that since the Muslims claim the faith of Abraham, and worship the one true God, they are not only among the saved, but are at the top of any such list.


Muslim are siding with the Catholic church. They are best of friend now.....
chico
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jul, 2007 09:41 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;25599 wrote:
For 2,000 years, Jews have rejected the Christian idea of Jesus as messiah. Why?

Jewish scholars state that Christian trinitarians corrupted and twisted the words of the Old Testament to justify their Trinity Paganism man-made faith.

Click here Why Don't Jews Believe In Jesus | The difference between Judaism and Christianity


Eversince Jews rejected Jesus until now. What is new????

Jews refused to believe in Jesus. They are claiming that they are still waiting for the true Christ... They will see the true Christ in His second coming not as a Lamb but as a Lion of Judah...
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chico
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jul, 2007 09:52 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;25804 wrote:
Pope reasserts other Christian denominations are not true churches

By NICOLE WINFIELD
Associated Press
Posted July 10 2007
Pope reasserts other Christian denominations are not true churches: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

LORENZAGO DI CADORE, Italy -- Pope Benedict XVI has reasserted the universal primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says Orthodox churches were defective and that other Christian denominations were not true churches.

Benedict approved a document from his old offices at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith that restates church teaching on relations with other Christians. It was the second time in a week the pope has corrected what he says are erroneous interpretations of the Second Vatican Council, the 1962-65 meetings that modernized the church.



They never learn.... I am sorry for them.....
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Campbell34
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jul, 2007 10:01 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;25803 wrote:
For 2,000 years, Jews have rejected the Christian idea of Jesus as messiah. Why?

Jewish scholars state that Christian trinitarians corrupted and twisted the words of the Old Testament to justify their Trinity Paganism man-made faith.

Click here to read Why Don't Jews Believe In Jesus | The difference between Judaism and Christianity


The Old Testament God tells us that the Jews polluted God's name where ever they wandered, and God said in the latter days when He would allow them to return to Israel, He would do this, but not for the Jews sakes, but for His Holy names sake. Jewish scholars are only doing what God stated they would be doing near the time of the end, they are still polluting Gods name. The Old Testament prophecy tells us, that when God's Severant would come, His own people would reject Him, and that is why the Jews rejected Jesus Christ. The Jews are fulfilling the Old Testament prophecy.
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Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jul, 2007 01:54 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;25821 wrote:
One sad truth is that Christianity, Judaism and Islam cannot peacefully co-exist. I guess we have to keep trying, though. We must always try to make the world a better place.


Some try to bring barriers down, others build.

Regards
DL
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SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jul, 2007 08:42 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
The Questions No Christian Wants to Answer..continue without any real challenge

QUESTION:

In [Genesis 6:3] "And the Lord said, My spirit will not be in man for ever, for he is only flesh; so the days of his life will be a hundred and twenty years"'.
Now, after this there are examples of people living longer than 120 years:

[Genesis 25:7] "These are all the years of Abraham's life that he lived, one hundred and seventy-five years."

[Genesis 9:29] "So all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years, and he died."

So, How can the bible be a Divine book when it states God said no one would live longer than 120 years and then people did so!!?

This adds to the long list of evidences about the fabrications in the man-made bible.
chico
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jul, 2007 10:04 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;26014 wrote:
The Questions No Christian Wants to Answer..continue without any real challenge

QUESTION:

In [Genesis 6:3] "And the Lord said, My spirit will not be in man for ever, for he is only flesh; so the days of his life will be a hundred and twenty years"'.
Now, after this there are examples of people living longer than 120 years:

[Genesis 25:7] "These are all the years of Abraham's life that he lived, one hundred and seventy-five years."

[Genesis 9:29] "So all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years, and he died."

So, How can the bible be a Divine book when it states God said no one would live longer than 120 years and then people did so!!?

This adds to the long list of evidences about the fabrications in the man-made bible.


DANIEL 12.9-10 'GO YOUR WAY DANIEL, FOR THE WORDS ARE SHUT AND SEALED UNTIL THE TIME OF THE END. MANY SHALL PURIFY THEMSELVES AND MAKE THEMSELVES WHITE AND BE REFINED BUT THE WICKED SHALL DO WICKEDNESS AND NONE OF THE WICKED SHALL UNDERSTAND BUT THOSE WHO ARE WISE SHALL UNDERSTAND..'

You will never understand the Bible because you belong to people prophesied by Daniel above....

Did God said no one will live longer than 120 years? No...God said 'for he is only flesh; so the days of his life will be a hundred and twenty years'.

For your better understanding of the Bible, Gen 6.3 tells us that the days of peoples life on earth whom God will destroy due to flood will last until 120 years from the time the flood will come. This means, the flood will come after 120 years as told by God to destroy men by means of flood. This will give Noah and his sons appropriate time to build the ark...
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Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jul, 2007 07:07 am
@SWORD of GOD,
Those who read the Bible literally will always loose in trying to defend the passages within it.

The Bible was never meant to be read that way.
It's value is in the overall philosophy of the text, not in individual passages.

Those who read it literally will never be able to win an arguement and those who argue against those who believe it literally will never win either.
Remember that you are argueing against those who truly believe in talking snakes.

Both end up babbling and will not see God within.

Regards
DL
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mako cv
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jul, 2007 10:55 am
@SWORD of GOD,
Quote:
Pagans' saviors :Historical Documents: Kersey Graves: The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors: Chapter 16: Sixteen Saviors Crucified

Ummm, I wouldn't use Kersey Graves as a reference...(1)his book was written in the 19th century (2)most of his work is erroneous (3)He works by implication only, presenting no verifiable evidence for his stances, quite acceptable in the 19th century but hardly the historical approach in the 21st century. Instead you might want to get, read and use the following:
Alison Roberts, Hathor Rising-The Serpent Power of Ancient Egypt (Northgate, 1995)
John G. Jackson, Christianity Before Christ (American Atheist Press, 1985)
S. Angus, The Mystery Religions (Kessinger Publishing, 2003)
Antonia Tripolitis, Religions of the Hellenistic Roman Age (Eerdmans,2002)
David Ulansey, The Origins of the Mithraic Mysteries (OUP, 1991)
:yup:
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SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jul, 2007 05:00 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
The Biblical god is a Barber !!!

"In the same day shall the Lord shave with a razor that is hired, namely, by them beyond the river, by the king of Assyria, the head, and the hair of the feet: and it shall also consume the beard." [Isiah 7:20]KJV.

This is another example of courrptions and fabrications in the man-made bible.
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SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jul, 2007 07:10 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
And here is another proof of the hatred and prejudice against women in the man-made fabricated Bible:

[Ecclesiastes 7:25]: "I directed my mind to know, to investigate and to seek wisdom and an explanation, and to know the evil of folly and the foolishness of madness."

[Ecclesiastes 7:26]: "And I discovered more bitter than death the woman whose heart is snares and nets, whose hands are chains. One who is pleasing to God will escape from her, but the sinner will be captured by her."

[Ecclesiastes 7:27]: "Behold, I have discovered this," says the Preacher, "adding one thing to another to find an explanation,"

[Ecclesiastes 7:28]: "which I am still seeking but have not found. I have found one man among a thousand, but I have not found a woman among all these."
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jul, 2007 08:32 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
No religion despises women more than Islam. Islam has institutionalized hatred and mistreatment of women. Europe's women need to remember that, as their continent becomes Islamosized. They will be the real losers. They will have to pay the most, for the cowardice and immorality of their people.

DOWN WITH TERRORIST ISLAM. DOWN WITH AL QAEDA. NO SURRENDER.
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SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jul, 2007 09:45 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
The Questions No Christian Wants to Answer..continue without any real challenge

QUESTION:

War or Peace?

[EXO 15:3] The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

[ROM 15:33] Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.


How can the bible be a Divine book when it Contradicts itself like this!!?

This adds to the long list of evidences about the fabrications in the man-made bible.
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jul, 2007 10:20 pm
@chico,
[SIZE="3"]"Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein many a contradiction." (Qur'an 4: 82).[/SIZE]
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chico
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jul, 2007 10:40 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;26246 wrote:
The Questions No Christian Wants to Answer..continue without any real challenge

QUESTION:

War or Peace?

[EXO 15:3] The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

[ROM 15:33] Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.


How can the bible be a Divine book when it Contradicts itself like this!!?

This adds to the long list of evidences about the fabrications in the man-made bible.


DANIEL 12.9-10 'GO YOUR WAY DANIEL, FOR THE WORDS ARE SHUT AND SEALED UNTIL THE TIME OF THE END. MANY SHALL PURIFY THEMSELVES AND MAKE THEMSELVES WHITE AND BE REFINED BUT THE WICKED SHALL DO WICKEDNESS AND NONE OF THE WICKED SHALL UNDERSTAND BUT THOSE WHO ARE WISE SHALL UNDERSTAND..'

You will never understand the Bible because you belong to people prophesied by Daniel above....

God was refering to two different people in the text you mentioned. In Exo 15.3 God was refering to unbelievers while Rom 15.33 refered to believers. God is God of war to unbelievers and God of peace to believers. You can not be God of war to believers and non believers.....
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SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jul, 2007 11:17 pm
@chico,
"And who does more wrong than the one
who invents a lie against Allah,
while he is being invited to Islam?
And Allah guides not the people who are
Zalimun (polytheists, wrong-doers and disbelievers) folk.

They intend to put out the Light of Allah
(i.e. the religion of Islam, this Qur'an, and
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him))
with their mouths. But Allah will bring
His Light to perfection even though the
disbelievers hate (it).

He (Allah) it is Who has sent His Messenger
(Muhammad (peace be upon him)) with guidance
and the religion of truth (Islamic Monotheism)
to make it victorious over all (other) religions
even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, i
dolaters, and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah
and in His Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him) hate (it)."

(Qur'an 61: 7-9)
chico
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jul, 2007 11:56 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;26262 wrote:
"And who does more wrong than the one
who invents a lie against Allah,
while he is being invited to Islam?
And Allah guides not the people who are
Zalimun (polytheists, wrong-doers and disbelievers) folk.

They intend to put out the Light of Allah
(i.e. the religion of Islam, this Qur'an, and
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him))
with their mouths. But Allah will bring
His Light to perfection even though the
disbelievers hate (it).

He (Allah) it is Who has sent His Messenger
(Muhammad (peace be upon him)) with guidance
and the religion of truth (Islamic Monotheism)
to make it victorious over all (other) religions
even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, i
dolaters, and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah
and in His Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him) hate (it)."

(Qur'an 61: 7-9)



'And Allah guides not the people who are
Zalimun (polytheists, wrong-doers and disbelievers) folk.'

Why Allah does not guides the people who are Zalimun? Does all Zalimun
can not be converted and can not repent with their sins? Does Zalimun destined for destruction?
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SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Fri 13 Jul, 2007 09:31 pm
@chico,
The Questions No Christian Wants to Answer..continue without any real challenge

Undeniable Contradictions in the Bible

QUESTION:

How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

(a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26).

OR

(b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2).


So, How can the Bible be a Divine book when it contradicts itself like this !!?


This adds to the long list of evidences about the fabrications in the man-made bible.



"Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein many a contradiction." (Qur'an 4: 82).
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SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 11:25 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
Don't attack Quran when you are so ignorant about it. You can hear the Quran beautiful recitation (in Arabic) here for any chapter: IslamWeb - English

And you can hear the Quran recitation in Arabic with online audio English translation here Quran Recitaion with English Translation
chico
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 10:16 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;26527 wrote:
Don't attack Quran when you are so ignorant about it. You can hear the Quran beautiful recitation (in Arabic) here for any chapter: IslamWeb - English

And you can hear the Quran recitation in Arabic with online audio English translation here Quran Recitaion with English Translation


So why do you attack the Bible when you are so ignorant about it. Do not attack the Bible when you are also ignorant about it.

DANIEL said is 12.9-10 'GO YOUR WAY DANIEL, FOR THE WORDS ARE SHUT AND SEALED UNTIL THE TIME OF THE END. MANY SHALL PURIFY THEMSELVES AND MAKE THEMSELVES WHITE AND BE REFINED BUT THE WICKED SHALL DO WICKEDNESS AND NONE OF THE WICKED SHALL UNDERSTAND BUT THOSE WHO ARE WISE SHALL UNDERSTAND..'
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