If Jesus was God ...

@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;24432 wrote:

The father has a place as God.
The word speaks to the philosophy of God.
The Holy Spirit in and of itself is nothing. The Holy Spirit is the telepathic emanations from God in communication with man.

There is only one consciousness to God and His word and His mental emanations.

Regards
DL

You may believe that there is only one consciousness to God, yet the Bible tells us that God exist as more than one being. The Word you describe as the philosophy of God, the Bible clearly states existed with God, and it tells us this being was God, and it also states that He made all things. A philosophy cannot make a universe. And when God did create, He said, let Us make man in OUR image, and in OUR likness. God was speaking to the members of the Godhead. God was not speaking to His philosophy. And Jesus before He left this world stated that He had to go so that the Holy Spirit could come and teach us. The Holy Spirit is also a member of the God Head, For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. When God said let Us make man in OUR image. Who was the OUR and the US?

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@Campbell34,

Campbell34;24441 wrote:

You may believe that there is only one consciousness to God, yet the Bible tells us that God exist as more than one being. The Word you describe as the philosophy of God, the Bible clearly states existed with God, and it tells us this being was God, and it also states that He made all things. A philosophy cannot make a universe. And when God did create, He said, let Us make man in OUR image, and in OUR likness. God was speaking to the members of the Godhead. God was not speaking to His philosophy. And Jesus before He left this world stated that He had to go so that the Holy Spirit could come and teach us. The Holy Spirit is also a member of the God Head, For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. When God said let Us make man in OUR image. Who was the OUR and the US?

If you want to take the Bible literally then you would need to ask what in His image means and then tell us what God does with that thing between His legs.
Perhaps God is part of a species that have women as well. Is this where God got the template for Eve.

If God has his own consciousness and Jesus has His own and the Holy spirit has his own and the word has His own, witch consciousness is #1. Who is the boss.
Further does your view of God sound like man with a conscious mind, a subconscious mind, an ego, an id. Who is the boss.

Regards
DL

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@Campbell34,

The Questions No Christian Wants to Answer..continue without any real challenge

QUESTION:

How can a divine book –as claimed by Christians- contains this nonsense passage stating that it is harmful to drink water alone which contradicts any simple common sense and basic science!!!?

“Just as it is harmful to drink wine alone or water alone, whereas mixing wine with water makes a more pleasant drink that increases delight, so a skillfully composed story delights the ears of those who read the work. Let this, then, be the end.” [2 Maccabees 15: 39] (New American Bible)

Check for yourself: click here > USCCB - NAB - 2 Maccabees 15

This is one of many clear examples of fabrications found in the Bible which prove that the bible had been corrupted and for sure it’s not the word of God.

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@SWORD of GOD,

SWORD of GOD;24451 wrote:

The Questions No Christian Wants to Answer..continue without any real challenge

QUESTION:USCCB - NAB - 2 Maccabees 15

Only those Christians who read the Bible literally fear discourse on anything in the Bible. They tend to run from the challenge quickly. They forget that the Bible is the final cut of many books. How they can be divine while showing a bumbling incompetent God who gets it all wrong, I don't know.

The Bible is, at the end of the day a philosophy.
Your passage has nothing to do with philosophy.
Pick one that does and we can reason it if we have two positions on it.

Regards
DL

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@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;24281 wrote:

That is good.

You are there. Why are you here?

Regards
DL

Wha.....? I thought this was a discussion forum?:dunno:

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@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;24449 wrote:

If you want to take the Bible literally then you would need to ask what in His image means and then tell us what God does with that thing between His legs.
Perhaps God is part of a species that have women as well. Is this where God got the template for Eve.

If God has his own consciousness and Jesus has His own and the Holy spirit has his own and the word has His own, witch consciousness is #1. Who is the boss.
Further does your view of God sound like man with a conscious mind, a subconscious mind, an ego, an id. Who is the boss.

Regards
DL

God is neither male or female, for God is a spirit, yet man is made in the image of God. Do you really believe that a sex organ is the only thing that
determins a mans image. The Father is the one in charge, and Jesus does the will of His Father, the Holy Spirit also does the will of the Father, yet all three together are in agreement, and all three = one God.

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@SWORD of GOD,

If we are in really made in God's image, wouldn't that mean that we to are divided in a "Father", "Son", and "Ghost"?

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@Campbell34,

If Jesus was God ...

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@SWORD of GOD,

SWORD of GOD;24552 wrote:

If Jesus was God ...

Do you serve yourself?

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@Pinochet73,

Pinochet73;24505 wrote:

Wha.....? I thought this was a discussion forum?:dunno:

It is.
I asked a question for discussion.

Regards
DL

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@Campbell34,

Campbell34;24548 wrote:

God is neither male or female, for God is a spirit, yet man is made in the image of God. Do you really believe that a sex organ is the only thing that
determins a mans image. The Father is the one in charge, and Jesus does the will of His Father, the Holy Spirit also does the will of the Father, yet all three together are in agreement, and all three = one God.

Does this include in Genesis, before Mary or Jesus are born?
If a spirit, does God have a shape?

Regards
DL

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;24560 wrote:

Do you serve yourself?

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@SWORD of GOD,

SWORD of GOD;24552 wrote:

If Jesus was God ...

Then why in the bible was he described as SERVANT of God !?

"The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His servant Jesus, the one whom you delivered and disowned in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release Him.” [Acts 3:13].

Jesus is a Servant of God

It will be quickly obvious that they often referred to him as a servant of God, but never Son of God. Peter, for example, said:

“The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus” (Acts 3:13).

Peter further said:

“God raised up his servant” (Acts 3:26), where the title servant refers to Jesus.

Not only Peter, but the entire group of believers viewed Jesus as God’s servant. When they raised their voices together in prayer to God, in the course of their speaking to God they called Jesus “your holy servant Jesus whom you anointed” (Acts 4:27). They repeated this title also in verse 30. Consistently, Jesus was being called servant of God by the original followers of Jesus.

Some people mistakenly thought that the disciples called Jesus Son of God. An inconsistency of translation actually helped to give this wrong impression. In the King James Bible, the translators call Jesus ‘Son of God’ in Acts 3:13, 26, and ‘child of God’ in Acts 4:27. They simply translated the Greek word paida as ‘son’ or ‘child’. But the word paida also means ‘servant’, and the present context demands this translation since the author of Acts is trying in this passage to establish that Jesus is indeed the servant of God.

The translators knew that the Greek word paida means servant. When the same word was used for David in chapter 4, verse 25, they translated it ‘servant’. Why not call Jesus also by the same title? Or, if they feel that ‘son’ is the correct translation, why not also call David ‘Son of God’? Jesus and David are both called by the same title in Greek. Why not call them by a same title in English also?

Other translators recognised this inconsistency and corrected it in the modern translations of the Bible. Therefore the New International Version of the Bible and many others call Jesus Servant of God in the verses already quoted above. Nevertheless, the fact that Jesus was God’s servant was so well known that even the King James Bible called him by this title in Matthew 12:18. Referring back to Isaiah 42:1, Matthew identified Jesus as the servant of the one true God Yahweh.

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@SWORD of GOD,

If Jesus was God ...

Then why he kept calling himself a MAN !?

Jesus said: “I am a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. But now you want to kill me. Abraham wouldn't have done that” [John 8:40].

Jesus described himself in the bible as a MAN, a SERVANT of GOD, and a PROPHET.

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@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;24572 wrote:

It is.
I asked a question for discussion.

Regards
DL

You need an Airborne song, Trooper. Stand by.....

Sword of God, where ya been?
Down on the corner, drinking gin.
What ya gonna do when you get back?
Ya gonna sweat it all out on the Airborne track!

HOOOOAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! TRAIN, FIGHT, WIN. TRAIN, FIGHT, WIN. TRAIN, FIGHT, WIN.

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@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;24573 wrote:

Does this include in Genesis, before Mary or Jesus are born?
If a spirit, does God have a shape?

Regards
DL

Yes this would include before Mary or Jesus. Remember Jesus existed before all things, because He made all things. Jesus is the Son of the Father and only took on the name of Jesus Christ to fulfill the prophecy. The human aspect of Gods Son has only been around for 2,000 years, yet Gods son before He took human form has existed from the beginning. If as the Bible has stated, that humans are shaped in Gods image then yes God must have a shape. Yet God appearence must be beyond our understanding as to His Radiant Glory.

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@Campbell34,

Campbell34;24653 wrote:

Yes this would include before Mary or Jesus. Remember Jesus existed before all things, because He made all things. Jesus is the Son of the Father and only took on the name of Jesus Christ to fulfill the prophecy. The human aspect of Gods Son has only been around for 2,000 years, yet Gods son before He took human form has existed from the beginning. If as the Bible has stated, that humans are shaped in Gods image then yes God must have a shape. Yet God appearence must be beyond our understanding as to His Radiant Glory.

There you go again hiding behind man's god given stupidity.
Why does your philosophy have to have so many un understandables. Could it be because you have not thought it out properly.
Why would God hide His message. Rather counter productive. And when we can't figure it out He sends a flood or other novel punishment that fails to help you understand.

I Jesus was God then the "sacrifice" was just a vacation on earth and His death would have been meaningless right? No death was involved right?
You cannot have it both ways. Or maybe you can with your twisted philosophy.

Regards
DL

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@SWORD of GOD,

Question

Why you -christias- don't listen when The bible stated that Jesus (PBUH) was a PROPHET!?:

Fear gripped them all, and they began glorifying God, saying, "A great prophet has arisen among us!" and, "God has visited His people! This report concerning Him went out all over Judea and in all the surrounding district." [Luke 7:16-17]

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@SWORD of GOD,

You guys should use knives to better make your points. J/K.

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@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;24675 wrote:

There you go again hiding behind man's god given stupidity.
Why does your philosophy have to have so many un understandables. Could it be because you have not thought it out properly.
Why would God hide His message. Rather counter productive. And when we can't figure it out He sends a flood or other novel punishment that fails to help you understand.

I Jesus was God then the "sacrifice" was just a vacation on earth and His death would have been meaningless right? No death was involved right?
You cannot have it both ways. Or maybe you can with your twisted philosophy.

Regards
DL

What message has God hidden? I believe God has been obvious about His message. It seems to me, you have worked hard to deny His message, and often ignore what is clearly stated in the Scriptures.

Christ death on the Cross was real, and the Bible clearly tells us that human conscious does not end at death. So there is no twisted philosophy here, just your denial of Biblical fact. I myself had a taste of life beyond death. In 1969 I accidently got caught on a 7,400 volt eletrical line. While I was laying on the ground and unable to move I was able to see things that I should not of been able to see, yet I now understand that it was not my physical eyes that gave me this ability, rather my spiritual eyes.

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