If Jesus was God ...

1John2.16 'FOR ALL THAT IS IN THE WORLD, THE LUST OF THE FLESH AND , THE LUST OF THE EYES AND THE PRIDE OF LIFE IS NOT OF THE FATHER BUT IS OF THE WORLD'...

Jesus stated that He and the Father are one, many of the statements Jesus did make made the Jews want to kill him. The Jews would not of tried to do that unless they understood what Jesus was suggesting. It was obvious to the Jews of that time that Jesus was claiming to be the Great I Am. The New Testament tells us that Jesus created all things, and that includes the earth we find ourselves on. The Old Testament tells us the Father alone made all things alone and by Himself. And that is why Jesus said the Father and I are one.

You still did not really answer the question. Who created the physical Earth that we walk on?

You mean to say that Jesus is the Father and the Father is Jesus? Oneness????????

The world refered in the Bible is different from the earth........ God created all things......

So tell me, who created all things? Was it Jesus? or was it the Father? Or was it both of them?

1John2.16 'FOR ALL THAT IS IN THE WORLD, THE LUST OF THE FLESH AND , THE LUST OF THE EYES AND THE PRIDE OF LIFE IS NOT OF THE FATHER BUT IS OF THE WORLD'...

1John2.16 'FOR ALL THAT IS IN THE WORLD, THE LUST OF THE FLESH AND , THE LUST OF THE EYES AND THE PRIDE OF LIFE IS NOT OF THE FATHER BUT IS OF THE WORLD'...

God created all things......

The Supremacy of Christ
15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. 17He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

Could be talking about God and not Jesus.

I was talking to you. but "Him" could be the invisible God as well. And it doesn't matter because God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one.

Agreed : )

Kinda crowded in the Godhead.

Who decides what to do.
If we are all to be as God is that like, our consciousness, superconsciousness, id, split personality, ego, crowded place indeed.
God has one consciousness.

Regards
DL

I am no psych major so pardon if I do not know specifically all those terms.

The Godhead is like a perfect triangle. No angle is greater than the other, yet all angles make up one trianle.

When the Bible states we are to be like God... we are to be like his character chiefly portrayed by Jesus.

[SIZE="4"]If God created ALL things how come God's word says that Jesus created all things?[/SIZE]

For by Him (Jesus) all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created by Him and for Him (Colossians 1:16).

In John 5.26 Jesus said 'FOR AS THE FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF SO HE HAS GRANTED THE SON ALSO TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF'... So God GRANTED His Son to have life in Himself but before His Son was in the bossom of the Father as One... Then how can you say now that there are 3 persons in one God?

I want to give you an example.... If I made a table, I used my hands primarily in making the table... Would you say my hands made that table alone? No... I as a whole I made that table.... An example I made is man because man was made in the image of God so it will be easy to understand to compare God and man....

The same with God.... God made all things thru His Word (Jesus)... You can not separate Them as you can not seprate my hands from my whole body...

So my question was. Who created all things. Based on your last statement you would say that God made all things thru Jesus. Now I agree with that statement. But you believe that Jesus is not God, so heres the problem.

In Isaiah 44:24 It reads, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF;

The God of the Old Testament does not agree with your doctrine. And if you believe that Jesus helped the Father when the Father has already stated He did this ALONE and BY HIMSELF, then you are making Him out to be a liar. Because the Father has already told us no one helped Him. As a Christian we believe that Jesus is God so we don't have a problem with Jesus helping the Father, because we believe they are one in the same. On the other hand, you have a big problem. Either the New Testament is not telling the truth, or the Old Testament is not telling the truth. Either way based on your doctrine, you are faced with a huge counterdiction.

So my question again to you. Do you agree with the Old Testament which states that God ALONE made all things by Himself ?

Jesus is the Word of God...Right? Thru the Word God made all things..Right? How can you separate God's Word with God. You can not separate them. They are One.... But the Word is different from the Father. The Father is not the Word and the Word is not the Father. Jesus said My Father is greater than Me. How can there be equality when Jesus said so....