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I'm not wrong at all, I have been saying that Christians are required to take the Bible literally, where have I even implied that the Bible shouldn't be taken literally?

No need to explain = "I can't explain". You don't even know how to practice your own faith!

9-0 I think.

Doesn't Jesus claim to speak for "God"? Isn't the New Testament Jesus' teaching? I thought the Ten Commandments were hand written by "God"?

So the Bible isn't "God's" or Jesus' teaching after all, so why do you read it? What do you get from it?

Yes, you seem to be kidding yourself.

I never stated that Christianity required perfection, I asked what was required to be Christian, you avoided answering, others have now stated that all that is required is to ask "God" to guide you. Did you know this?

I am now happy in the knowledge that The Bible is just a piece of writing with no real relevance to Christianity, just a bit of light reading soley for entertainment purposes. You can do whatever you want and still be Christian, so bollocks to morality.

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that you had read the Bible. I am saying that the Bible is how you become Christian, it tells you what the religion consist of. Guidence, that comes from God. That is a non-believers view on the Bible, you can make your own, care to share?

He'll come, but will you want to repent?

It takes St. Peter to say, come on in!

Sure, what ever you say. Being an atheist i would assume as a standard belief you would not take our bible literally. Or any religous material for that matter.

I don't know, you tell me?

Yeah, so it was 9-0 and yet i still won the war, LOL.

No one will ever win that argument unless one of you convertd....There is no point in arguuing with ideologue

I don't think

Doesn't Jesus claim to speak for "God"? Isn't the New Testament Jesus' teaching? I thought the Ten Commandments were hand written by "God"?

So the Bible isn't "God's" or Jesus' teaching after all, so why do you read it? What do you get from it?

So what does the religion consist of? There are no rules involved only guidelines so why the huge amount of pages? They could tell you that in no time.

Given the choices why wouldn't I? I would have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

While l hate to interrupt you while you are debating with yourself, morningstar,I just want you to understand that you are the one challenging God, thus it is you who has to take on the burden of proof.

In the meantime it is nice that you decided to read the bible as you would Harry Potter, how intriguing. As you have perused the thousands of years and are familiar with everything, why is it you are still coming up with statements like their is no room for free will. The bible is full of free will.

Wow, the common thread and you miss it!!!!

Here is another funny statement,



how can you conclude that it is not God and Jesus' teachings? I wonder if you have read it with the idea to question it, and found yourself confused.

What l get from the Bible, to answer your question, is inspiration and wisdom and guidence. The reason people go to Church, or God's House, is so they can learn about the teachings and apply it to everyday life. But church is about your relationship with God, a sanctuary that is their to help people with this relationship. The more l learn form the bible the more l understand life, and how to deal with the issues and conflicts that are a part of our individual journey.

Let me explain something to you. You seem to be under the impression that if you believed your views and your behaviour would be exactly like they are now, not at all. If you believe in Jesus then you want to follow in his footsteps, you would want to live your life helping others.

The religion consists of the desire to change and to do good, not so you can get into heaven, but to become worthy of Gods notice.

It's easy, but not simple, you need to change your heart, to never again stray from hid path, that is repenting. This is not a normal exchange, God asks for your whole life, not part.

So entry to heaven all relies on St Peter's free will, not your own. What if he doesn't like the lok of you? How are you supposed to impress him? Doesn't the Bible teach you any of this, it's just all down to whether St. Peter is in a good mood or not?

Anyway, I thought "God" was the Judge. You're avoiding the question again.

Why would you? Can't you believe and still have free will? If once I start believing I would immediately want to live my life helping others then I have lost free will. That would be an "unknown" force influencing my decisions, or i would revoke my free will and do something I didn't really want to. As it happens I do believe in Jesus, but I don't feel the need to have to help people, why should I?

So there are specific ways of getting in "God's" good books?

So what are these ways of getting "God" to notice you? Are they written in The Bible? If so how do you know which bits are right and which are wrong?

So born again Christians are fucked then? And if you aren't baptised and you sin before the chance to broker a deal with "God" you're also fucked? I might as well give up hope then. I never realised it was a once in a lifetime opportunity, that boat's sailed then I'm back to atheism in less than 12 hours.

I never said that I took the Bile literally you cretin! Do you even read my posts, or just read what you want to see?

I said, you must take the Bible literally if you wish to be a Christian. Where does any of that mention me? Numpty!

St. Peter works for God. He's just the keeper of the gate. I'm not supposed to impress him. The Bible doesn't teach me anything, it's a book. It's how i interpret it's words that teaches me. Same principal holds true for other types of books. I suggest you read the bible if you find it so interesting a topic, maybe even start your own thread?