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Iowa Caucas Results

 
 
DurtySanches
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 04:47 pm
@briansol,
briansol;49905 wrote:
I'm appauled.

not because my candidate didn't win, but rather who did win. Huckabe as a president is like going to church every sunday. we don't need that. our founding fathers realized this, and hence the whole seperation of church and state thing......

is it that hard to grasp?

america is ******* stupid.

no wonder france hates us, and they're pussies.


Election Center 2008: Primary Results - Elections & Politics news from CNN.com


DEM
Obama 38%
Edwards 30%
Clinton 29%
Richardson 2%
Biden 1%
Dodd 0%
Gravel 0%
Kucinich 0%



GOP:
Huckabee 34%
Romney 25%
Thompson 13%
McCain 13%
Paul 10%
Giuliani 4%
Hunter 1%





I am glad that Guili is way at the bottom though Smile
Quote:
I'm appauled.

not because my candidate didn't win, but rather who did win. Huckabe as a president is like going to church every sunday. we don't need that. our founding fathers realized this, and hence the whole seperation of church and state thing......

is it that hard to grasp?
If it was so important why didn't they put in the Constitution? I agree with you on france though, LOL.
rugonnacry
 
  1  
Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 06:09 pm
@klyph,
klyph;50041 wrote:
Why not? Islamics strap bombs to their children and send them out to kill innocents, but we're so much better because we do it in a suit and tie with a smart bomb. Our hands never get as dirty, but we do the same things they do. We have the same objectives and goals, but we are more deceptive and word our intentions so they are palatable. Christian America has been involved in just as many conflicts, killed just as many people as radical Islam. The only difference is that we fill out all the paperwork and transmit our media propaganda to justify our atrocities. Yes, you can compare the two, with a stark likeness.


We strap our bombs to 18 year olds and UP ONLY.... that makes us better
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 06:10 pm
@DurtySanches,
DurtySanches;50120 wrote:
If it was so important why didn't they put in the Constitution? I agree with you on france though, LOL.




They didnt put 55 mph speed limits in the constitution either.
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 06:11 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;50079 wrote:
Wow. What a 'kill'm all, let God sort'm out' type of guy.:rollinglaugh:




Its not that I dont agree with Aids Concentration camps, ITs I dont agree with doing it because GOd says they are going to Hell.
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 06:13 pm
@Reagaknight,
How many times does Separation Of Church And State have to be proven before you folks realize that Just because you dont want it, or agree with it does NOT make it go away.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 07:06 pm
@rugonnacry,
IOWA = Idiots Out Walking Around
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Reagaknight
 
  1  
Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 07:26 pm
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;50132 wrote:
How many times does Separation Of Church And State have to be proven before you folks realize that Just because you dont want it, or agree with it does NOT make it go away.


Where is the basis for it?
g-man
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 08:01 pm
@klyph,
klyph;50041 wrote:
Why not? Islamics strap bombs to their children and send them out to kill innocents, [SIZE="2"]but we're so much better because we do it in a suit and tie with a smart bomb. Our hands never get as dirty, but we do the same things they do. We have the same objectives and goals, but we are more deceptive and word our intentions so they are palatable. Christian America has been involved in just as many conflicts, killed just as many people as radical Islam. [/SIZE]The only difference is that we fill out all the paperwork and transmit our media propaganda to justify our atrocities. Yes, you can compare the two, with a stark likeness.


You are required to provide examples or events of this absurd accusation. Make it good.
Reagaknight
 
  1  
Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 08:04 pm
@g-man,
g-man;50162 wrote:
You are required to provide examples or events of this absurd accusation. Make it good.


Well, if he knew of any actual proof, he'd probably be dead right now.
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92b16vx
 
  1  
Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 08:07 pm
@g-man,
g-man;50162 wrote:
You are required to provide examples or events of this absurd accusation. Make it good.


Well, let's see...radical islamist from Saudi flew planes into buildings, killing just under 3000 people, we invaded a country that had nothing to do with it, to spread our version of how they should live, under the guise of (insert favorite reason for invading a soveriegn country here), killing thousands of times the amount of innocent civilians.
g-man
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 08:08 pm
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;50129 wrote:
We strap our bombs to 18 year olds and UP ONLY.... that makes us better


Name a soldier in America's 100% volunteer military who strapped a bomb to himself to commit suicide taking as many Muslims with him as possible. surely his name would be exhaulted among the war mongers. Ridiculous quips make for poor debate.
g-man
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 08:17 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;50166 wrote:
Well, let's see...radical islamist from Saudi flew planes into buildings, killing just under 3000 people, we invaded a country that had nothing to do with it, to spread our version of how they should live, under the guise of (insert favorite reason for invading a soveriegn country here), killing thousands of times the amount of innocent civilians.


What a piss poor effort of supporting an accusation that is perfectly unprovable.
Sovereign nation invaded for ignoring, scoffing at sanctions placed upon it by an entity called the U.N.. The U.S. and it's allies took those sanctions more serious than the U.N. and Hussein did. But, don't get distracted by the fact that you've been made a fool of. Stick to the subject. Provide examples of Americans conducting themselves as radical Muslims.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 08:33 pm
@g-man,
g-man;50168 wrote:
What a piss poor effort of supporting an accusation that is perfectly unprovable.
Sovereign nation invaded for ignoring, scoffing at sanctions placed upon it by an entity called the U.N.. The U.S. and it's allies took those sanctions more serious than the U.N. and Hussein did. But, don't get distracted by the fact that you've been made a fool of. Stick to the subject. Provide examples of Americans conducting themselves as radical Muslims.


Sorry, I don't give a **** about the UN, and do not think America be a part of it, much less use it as an excuse for waging war against a country that did not attack us. You are typical of what Klyph is talking about.
g-man
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 09:02 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;50171 wrote:
Sorry, I don't give a *** about the UN, and do not think America be a part of it, much less use it as an excuse for waging war against a country that did not attack us. You are typical of what Klyph is talking about.


You may not give a damn about many things. But the reality is they are a part of your life. Now, provide the examples of your accusations.
Any attack on an ally of ours or an attack on monetary interest of ours that is dealt with, with a 100% voluntary military does not place us in the same category as those who target innocents to accomplish a statement.
Making accusations toward our soldiers and leaders unproven, exposes people as
unfocused. You have no choice. You must consider your neighbor in your thought process. Or consider suicide.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 09:05 pm
@g-man,
g-man;50179 wrote:
You may not give a damn about many things. But the reality is they are a part of your life. Now, provide the examples of your accusations.
Any attack on an ally of ours or an attack on monetary interest of ours that is dealt with, with a 100% voluntary military does not place us in the same category as those who target innocents to accomplish a statement.
Making accusations toward our soldiers and leaders unproven, exposes people as
unfocused. You have no choice. You must consider your neighbor in your thought process. Or consider suicide.


YOU do not think it does, and niether do I, but that doesn't mean that our enemies do not, just like you do not like the way they deal with their own society, it's called a double standard. And continuing on a path of further destabilization, of an already highly violtal region not good policy, even if it is to protect our interest.
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jan, 2008 05:19 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;50147 wrote:
Where is the basis for it?


You have been slapped wioth the proof more times than you can count, and yet you wait a month and then bring it up again... Trust me N one has forgotten that it has been proven, NOT even you.



I shall play out our entire argument and save us time




YOU: There is no serperation of Chucrch and state because it does not say it in the Constitution.





Me: The Supreme court of the united states has the power to interpret law... they interpret the constitution to say SEP of church and state.



\
YOU: I dont agree that SCOTUS should have that power




ME: Doesnt matter if you agree that they should.... at this point they do.






End of debate..... I just saved us 4 pages and 2 weeks of text.


Thank me later
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jan, 2008 05:21 pm
@g-man,
g-man;50167 wrote:
Name a soldier in America's 100% volunteer military who strapped a bomb to himself to commit suicide taking as many Muslims with him as possible. surely his name would be exhaulted among the war mongers. Ridiculous quips make for poor debate.



4000 dead american soldiers, and allegedly over 1 million dead iraqis... hmmmm


Analogy's and Metaphors skipping over you = poor debate.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jan, 2008 08:26 pm
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;50217 wrote:
4000 dead american soldiers, and allegedly over 1 million dead iraqis... hmmmm


Analogy's and Metaphors skipping over you = poor debate.


Wow, you know, it's amazing how well you answered his point.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jan, 2008 08:40 pm
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;50216 wrote:
You have been slapped wioth the proof more times than you can count, and yet you wait a month and then bring it up again... Trust me N one has forgotten that it has been proven, NOT even you.



I shall play out our entire argument and save us time




YOU: There is no serperation of Chucrch and state because it does not say it in the Constitution.





Me: The Supreme court of the united states has the power to interpret law... they interpret the constitution to say SEP of church and state.



\
YOU: I dont agree that SCOTUS should have that power




ME: Doesnt matter if you agree that they should.... at this point they do.






End of debate..... I just saved us 4 pages and 2 weeks of text.


Thank me later



I'm almost sure that's not how it went. I'm pretty sure I brought up Plessy vs. Ferguson, and would you agree with that and would you not question that? Also, while the justices have mention Aep. of Church and State and used it as though it were an integral part of the constitution, they have not explicitly declared that there was legitimate basis for the policy itself in a decision that is exclusively about Sep of Church and State, meaning that there is no reason besides precedent that it should be used legally.
DurtySanches
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 07:41 pm
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;50130 wrote:
They didnt put 55 mph speed limits in the constitution either.
I don't think any of our founding fathers road in anything faster then 20, 25 miles an hour. I suppose that had a better chance at making in the Constitution then Church and State?
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