What does Islam really teach?

@al islam,

Yea, true. Islam encourages us to continue learning and gain knowledge. There are still more room for us to learn. Learning is endless. Maybe the West should understand z0z0's point and this eh.

yea. btw, have u all watched this movie named "The Messenger"? Its about Muhammad's conquest to spread Islam.

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@zakiv4,

Great - one small step by two small people.

Now if only we could get the Masters of the Civilizations to agree ...
... and to stop using religion as a weapon.

As for the movie - are you talking about this one?
The Message (1976)

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@al islam,

Alhamdullilah. Yea, step by step. Let peace dwell here.

About the movie. Yea, you're right, its "The Message". Sorry.

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@zakiv4,

I saw the movie years ago.
It makes Mohammed seem Christ-Like.
The Christ simile is not good because Christ never had a sword.

Has anyone seen the documentary:

Islam: What the West Needs to Know

I know it is extremist and appears to have some Zionist agenda but there is some truth in it.

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@zakiv4,

zakiv4;8628 wrote:

Yes i am. Are you questioning me or the whole Muslim community? Well, first of all, i have no power to steal it as now the US have the mightiest power of all. Secondly, i dont bother to steal it as it can only produce hate. yea? btw, if u want to see the real Islamic environment, go and have a look around at the mosque.

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Yes i am. Are you questioning me or the whole Muslim community?

Any one who will answer honestly.

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Well, first of all, i have no power to steal it as now the US have the mightiest power of all.

If you did have the power, would you? From this statement. "we are hidden as Christians own the world" i took it, you have a little anomosity twards Christians?

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Secondly, i dont bother to steal it as it can only produce hate. yea?

Again from your first post. "we are hidden as Christians own the world." Some might be inclined to believe your already on you way to producing hate?

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btw, if u want to see the real Islamic environment, go and have a look around at the mosque.

Same offer is extended to you, if you wanna see a real Christian enviroment i'm sure there is not one to far away unless your in a country that doesn't allow Christian churches?

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@al islam,

I agree totally with you on this one Z0z0. But it think is will be very hard for the 75% to real in the other 25.

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@zakiv4,

zakiv4;8641 wrote:

Yea, true. Islam encourages us to continue learning and gain knowledge. There are still more room for us to learn. Learning is endless. Maybe the West should understand z0z0's point and this eh.

yea. btw, have u all watched this movie named "The Messenger"? Its about Muhammad's conquest to spread Islam.

The West understands Z0z0's point. One fact that won't change though is that we believe we are fighting extremists. These extremists don't care if others are taken out to get there way. Including Muslims. We as a military cannot distinguish friend from enemy.

I have seen the messenger numerous times throughout my life.

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@al islam,

interesting

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@al islam,

the AD 700s. Our present troubles are nothing more than a continuation of an old theme. We must accept this struggle, embrace it, and win. The two religions were never meant to live in peaceful co-existence. Neither the West nor the Greater West should allow large-scale Islamic immigration. That's tantamount to inviting the enemy into one's rank and file. It's crazy.

* I do not advocate violence against the innocent, ever.

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@Drnaline,

Drnaline;8659 wrote:

The West understands Z0z0's point. One fact that won't change though is that we believe we are fighting extremists. These extremists don't care if others are taken out to get there way. Including Muslims. We as a military cannot distinguish friend from enemy.

I have seen the messenger numerous times throughout my life.

so, are you stating that Muslims: are extremists who don't care if others are taken out to get there way. if u do, what makes u think so?

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@al islam,

drnaline, it seems that u are just rubbing on other people's points. most probably u will quote this and rub on this point....

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@al islam,

"we believe we are fighting extremists"

that is all he means - we ARE fighting extremists . He did not say we are fighting all Muslims , nor did he say all Muslims are terrorists .

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@zakiv4,

zakiv4;9237 wrote:

so, are you stating that Muslims: are extremists who don't care if others are taken out to get there way. if u do, what makes u think so?

I am stating "Muslim extremists/terrorists" don't care who gets killed, even there own. No i do not believe all Muslims are terrorists. My example is just one IED or suicide bomber away.

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@zakiv4,

zakiv4;9238 wrote:

drnaline, it seems that u are just rubbing on other people's points. most probably u will quote this and rub on this point....

I rub how i see it. The people we fight that we call terrorist/extremist are not resonable people, they will not sit down and talk. They want only to kill. We as a nation have delt with this our whole existence. We as a nation are not afraid to fight such extremists. We only need to know who they are, and they will be delt with.
If you can get them to be reasonable, by all means try it. This conflict would be over tommorrow. If you can't then you have no choice but to either side with them or us and die for a cause.

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@al islam,

Islam represents the triumph of barbarism in religious form. Mohammad invented a religion specifically for his people, understanding all too well they needed a god who championed and took credit for their primitive, cruel and war-mongering culture. Islam is a true enemy of Western Christian Man. It must be fought to the last bullet, bayonet-thrust and drop of blood. Amen.:headbang:

* I do NOT advocate violence toward the innocent, ever. I am speaking in general terms, and do not encourage anyone to hurt anyone else. :no:

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@zakiv4,

I hear you...it is a difficult thing not to get angry about what has happened, and these fatwas, and seeing the results of this hatred as taught by the Quran.
It is important to keep a positive energy flow and keep looking for solutions and peace. The bible warned us of this, and we can seek the positive with just being grateful for all that we have, and all they we are destined to recieve. And by visualizing an end to the conflict.

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@zakiv4,

My question is what will it take to end this conflict? I see no solution, therefore I see no end. Perhaps someone else here has more insight into a solution than I do.

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@al islam,

From what i gather, this conflict has been going on a couple thousand years.

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@zakiv4,

I believe it's more like 4,000, but I'm no expert on that either. I will go to the internet and see if I can get some info. on that.

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@al islam,

Conflict is ageless.

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