Is there a god?

And in that same arguement you will also argue that you do not have faith in your belief that there is no God. Hipocritical as i think most logical people would come up with what i've just stated.

Caused or uncaused/cause? Lets talk about the spagetti monster? I have yet to talk to someone that says uncaused? Even atheist scientists.

I ask you why the most brilliant man of all time, Stephen Hawkings,

doesnt believe in a "divine creator"?

I dont need to have faith in the fact that there is not divine "god". Faith is belief without proof. Though I will concede the point that some interpret faith as "what we believe to be true", true faith as defined by most christians is a belief without need of proof. They look for the proof internally, rather than open their eyes to the nature of the universe. I ask you why the most brilliant man of all time, Stephen Hawkings, doesnt believe in a "divine creator"?

I dont need to have faith in the fact that there is not divine "god". Faith is belief without proof. Though I will concede the point that some interpret faith as "what we believe to be true", true faith as defined by most christians is a belief without need of proof. They look for the proof internally, rather than open their eyes to the nature of the universe. I ask you why the most brilliant man of all time, Stephen Hawkings, doesnt believe in a "divine creator"?

I dont need to have faith in the fact that there is not divine "god".

Yep, there is a God and she is tired with the way Catholic Priests don't believe in her...l mean what are priest thinking when they have assualted and raped children and then think she doesn't see, they of all people should know that they will be condemned in the eyes of God, how can this be tolerated.

Even the Muslims are not as bad, as incredibly disgusting as their behaviour is, because they just don't know any better, they have been decieved by a demented Warlord who was probably high on camel dung...they should now get there act together, however...

The other comment l just have to make is that the existance of God is not about science, it just is what is, and while God has created Science, Science cannot begin to explain God, the Goddess...

What is, is.

Yep, there is a God and she is tired with the way Catholic Priests don't believe in her...l mean what are priest thinking when they have assualted and raped children and then think she doesn't see, they of all people should know that they will be condemned in the eyes of God, how can this be tolerated.

Even the Muslims are not as bad, as incredibly disgusting as their behaviour is, because they just don't know any better, they have been decieved by a demented Warlord who was probably high on camel dung...they should now get there act together, however...

I'll ask again, caused or uncaused/cause? Albert Einstein was a believer, i guess he wasn't smart enough to know the difference. Does Hawkins believe in the Big Bang?

Yes. However, he does not believe in the "first cause" effect. Hence he does not believe in a "divine creator" or "intelligent design". Einstein, though brilliant, did not at that time have sufficient information to negate the theory of God. Hawkings, given today's extreme advances in physics and mathematics, realizes the impossiblity of a Creator.

Maybe he's a little bit ticked off because of the shape his body is in. Many people have professed a disbelief in God for a whole lot less than the affliction he has. I have found that people having a high IQ usually have a "God" complex of their own. They think they are above any law, man made or otherwise.

God is both internal and external. I "see" God in Nature and in people all the time. I see his creations and I thank him for them.

Unable to provide a significant arguement to my statements, he begins a personal attack on one of the most brilliant minds of our time. Unfortunately, Christians have a much greater sense of superiority than do athiests. Of course there are exeptions. I apologize for introducing Hawking. I dont believe that my case really needs geniuses to support it. Just intellectuals to understand it.

So what does Hawkins and you think caused the Big Bang? Or triggered it?

Where do you see a personal attack? The mans a public figure and is subject to people opinions. Are you claiming you understand the interworkings of his mind. He made a lagitamate point with one of his observations. i do not consider that a personal attack but i may be biased, being a Christian and all. I never thought i had a superioraty complex?

Where do you see a personal attack? The mans a public figure and is subject to people opinions. Are you claiming you understand the interworkings of his mind. He made a lagitamate point with one of his observations. i do not consider that a personal attack but i may be biased, being a Christian and all. I never thought i had a superioraty complex?

The Big Bang is not singular. The Universe undergoes continual expansions and contractions. To simplify the story (to child level) the Universe will explode (Big Bang), next the gravity from the mass expelled will eventually pull the matter back into the center of the Universe (Big Crunch). It continually undergoes this fluctuation between Bang and Crunch. The Universe never came into existence with a "Big Bang" or "Genesis" or whatever story you can come up with. The Universe has and always will exist. See Law of Conservation of Matter- "Matter cannot be created or destroyed". Though it is a manmade law, it is a simple observation of the behavior of the Universe. It is difficult for a human do comprehend something always existing, as we observe on Earth things continually coming into existence and exiting existence frequently. It seems amazing that people bend this rule for God...with the common statement "God always has existed"...so why is it so impossible for the Universe to always have existed then? I would continue....but I dont think you're really listening open-mindedly anyway....

To simplify the story (to child level) the Universe will explode (Big Bang), next the gravity from the mass expelled will eventually pull the matter back into the center of the Universe (Big Crunch).

The Universe never came into existence with a "Big Bang" or "Genesis" or whatever story you can come up with. The Universe has and always will exist.

Though it is a manmade law, it is a simple observation of the behavior of the Universe.

It is difficult for a human do comprehend something always existing, as we observe on Earth things continually coming into existence and exiting existence frequently.

It seems amazing that people bend this rule for God...with the common statement "God always has existed"...so why is it so impossible for the Universe to always have existed then?

I would continue....but I dont think you're really listening open-mindedly anyway....

No superiority complex huh? Good one:thumbup:

I will reply later...i must retire.....

Faith is belief without proof