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Move On says AARP selling out medicare

 
 
Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 01:08 pm
From Move On.org

For years, Democratic lawmakers have been working to make sure that seniors have access to prescription drugs and reasonable healthcare. Now, in an attempt to score political points, the Republican Congressional leadership is pushing through a bill that appears to offer a solution. Actually, the bill undermines the entire Medicare program, pushing people into the very HMOs which contribute heavily to Republican lawmakers and barring the government from negotiating for lower drug prices.

Given the danger to seniors, one might expect that the millions-strong American Association of Retired People (AARP) to be on the case. But after huge contributions from pharmaceutical companies and HMOs, and pressure from Republican lawmakers, the AARP is selling out its membership and backing the bill.

In response, 85 members of Congress (so far) have canceled their AARP
memberships, or announced that they will never join (if they're not yet old enough to be eligible). [1] Today, we urge you to do the same. If the AARP won't stand up for the elderly when it comes to health care, what good is it? You can reach the AARP at:

NM Branch: EDIT
National hotline: EDIT

If you're a member, tell them you're quitting.

If you're too young to be eligible, tell them you'll never join.

You also may want to let your Representative and Senators know that you're keeping the AARP accountable. You could also tell them that you expect them to demand real health care reform -- not this industry-backed bill.

Please let us know how you feel about this -- we're collecting individual comments to share with the media, at:

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The AARP has endorsed a bill that would make two fundamental changes in Medicare:

1. First, it would force people to make a stark choice: either pay sharply increased premiums to stay in traditional Medicare, where they can choose their doctor; or be forced out, into an HMO.

Newt Gingrich, the former House Republican leader, said in 1995 that he wanted to let Medicare to "wither on the vine." This change would lead to that result, with cost incentives driving people out. (Not coincidentally, AARP CEO William Novelli recently wrote the forward to Gingrich's book. [2])

2. Second, it offers a prescription drug benefit, but requires people who want this coverage to buy it from private insurance plans.

This part of the bill also bars the government from doing the one thing it could do to actually reduce the cost of these drugs -- negotiate for lower prices, using the size of the Medicare program as leverage. Drug prices are soaring now, and unless they're brought under control, they will eventually bankrupt Medicare.

AARP itself sells insurance and also sells prescription drugs, so the group stands to reap huge financial gains from this change.

The bill has been opposed by a host of liberal groups [3] as well as by major conservative groups, including the Club for Growth, The Heritage Foundation, the American Conservative Union, The Cato Institute, and the National Taxpayers Union. It's also been assailed by virtually every one of the Democratic presidential candidates. [4]

In endorsing this bill, the AARP has broken faith with its members. In a recent poll, 65% of AARP members said they're opposed to it. [5] The group has also violated its own written principles. In July, CEO William Novelli wrote to Congress stating the requirements for AARP's support of a Medicare bill. [6] Yet the bill AARP has just endorsed fails to meet nine separate requirements stated in that letter. [7]

We need to hold the AARP responsible for selling out its members. If the organization sees sufficient backlash from its members and prospective members, it could still change course and effect the outcome of this legislation. Please call your local AARP branch today.

Sincerely,
--Carrie, Eli, James, Joan, Noah, Peter, Wes, and Zack
The MoveOn.org Team
November 20th, 2003
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[1] 85 Representatives wrote to Novelli, canceling their memberships:
http://www.moveon.org/HouseAARPletter.pdf

[2] From the foreword by Novelli to Gingrich's new book, "Saving Lives
and Saving Dollars".

[3] See http://www.moveon.org/medicare.html for a complete list of
organizations.

[4] See:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54358-2003Nov17.html

[5] Poll: a majority of AARP members oppose the Medicare bill:
http://www.moveon.org/Medicaresurveypr.pdf

[6] AARP July letter on minimum acceptable standards
http://www.aarp.org/Articles/a2003-08-18-drugbenefitinmedicare.html

[7] How AARP goes back on its word
http://www.house.gov/schakowsky/Document_AARP_Priorities_11_17_03.html

[8] http://www.aarp.org/leadership/Articles/a2002-12-18-aarpfactsheet.html
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 01:50 pm
That would be the way I also see it.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 02:13 pm
Edgar
Edgar, obscene how AARP is selling out its membership to make more money on their drug program. Disgusting!

BBB
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 02:33 pm
Big money has about gotten the common people sold out in every area of existence. I don't belong to AARP, but I wish I did long enough to tell them how I feel before dropping them.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 02:40 pm
Edgar -- I got the MoveOn email and acted toute suite. Glad you have started this thread. I don't think most AARP members are aware that it has become a big corporation with about as much respect for its membership as Enron did for its investors.
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perception
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 03:03 pm
quote wrote:
1. First, it would force people to make a stark choice: either pay sharply increased premiums to stay in traditional Medicare, where they can choose their doctor; or be forced out, into an HMO.


What are the "sharply increased premiums" ?----anyone know?

Why would the Republicans take a chance on alienating a very large segment of the electorate-----who all vote?

What is the agenda of "Move On. org"-----convince me they have the interests of the "Seniors" at heart intead of some other political motivation.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 03:08 pm
The Democrats could have made a better stand here.
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pistoff
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 04:08 pm
It has become obvious.
The Repubs and even the majority of the Dems. do not have the less than wealthy people in mind anymore when it comes to anything. The Amerikan Empire has decided that it no longer needs the common people, so they are selling them out. The Amerikan Empire is moving toward an Oligarchy Police State.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 05:04 pm
Haven't as yet taken a good look at the proposed finish product. However, if the prescription drug portion is any indication it is the typical dreck coming out of our congress. The greater majority of seniors will be getting shafted by it. The only benefit will be to those who have exceedingly high prescription costs. The rest of us will be forced to buy an insurance policy in the event that we will have these exceedingly high bills. I should note that the premium we pay will not be the touted $35 a month but whatever the insurance company decides to charge. The drug prescription bill is indeed a benefit but not for the senior, for the insurance companies. The premise under which it has passed is it is better than nothing and we will improve it later. I do not agree poor legislation is worse than none at all. In this instance it is designed to destroy what is working in order to push the ill conceived concept of Medicare privatization. It's HMO for you or we will price you out of the benefit. AARP goodby.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 05:14 pm
Not a member and don't plan to join. I do not like their politics, and am happy to pass on the membership benefits they claim.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 05:49 pm
Au, According to the news, there isn't a finished product yet. Congress itself hasn't seen the finished product (this was in the report in the Tuesday NYTimes).
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 05:59 pm
Tartarin
I am aware it isn't a finished product yet that is why I said proposed. However, what we have seen to this point is an almost finished product and as far as the prescription drug plan that is firm and hasn't changed in months.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 06:16 pm
Au -- There's a guy in San Antonio who appears on talk shows in times like this because he is both a practicing cardiologist and a lawyer. He was on, I guess it was Tuesday morning, and had some really interesting things to say. First, he was outraged because the San Antonio Express News had, that morning, printed the same report than had been in the NYTimes BUT deleted the sentence which stated that members of Congress had not yet been able to see the finished product. He suspects that they will vote without knowing entirely what's in the bill. He had nothing good to say about the bill, as much as he knew about it.

This is one of the many reasons I'm grateful to MoveOn for rallying the troops: MoveOn persistently alerts its members, passing on whatever info it has.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 06:27 pm
Tartarin
For a congress person to vote yea on legislation they have only a passing knowledge of is not unusual. In fact it is the norm. Their leadership drives the ship and oftimes they are just passengers along for the ride.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 06:28 pm
Dems expose AARP connection to Repugs & Drug Industry
Kennedy, Daschle and Pelosi Join Alliance for Retired Americans and Hundreds of Senior Activists for a Rally to Oppose Medicare Bill

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Hundreds of senior activists will descend on Capitol Hill Wednesday, November 19, to express their outrage and opposition to the proposed Medicare prescription drug bill announced by conferees.

"We vehemently disagree with those who say any bill is better than nothing," said George J. Kourpias, president of the Alliance for Retired Americans. "We believe no bill is better than a bad bill. Seniors will not be fooled by what amounts to nothing more than a payout to special interests. Our members have long fought for a meaningful prescription drug benefit under Medicare, and what the conferees have offered is a lemon."

The Alliance strongly opposes the bill because it would privatize Medicare, puts millions of seniors at risk of having no coverage, has no guaranteed premiums, threatens employer-provided retiree coverage and does nothing to curb the skyrocketing prices of prescription drugs.

"The Bush Administration and Congress are callously using a much needed and long awaited prescription drug benefit to privatize Medicare," said Edward F. Coyle, executive director of the Alliance. "Medicare as we know it will cease to exist under the proposed bill, and seniors are coming from all over to say they will not stand for it."

WHAT: Rally to Stop Congress from Passing a Lemon of a Bill

WHO:

George J. Kourpias, president of the Alliance for Retired Americans

Senator Edward Kennedy

Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi

Eleanor Kuhns, retiree

Audrey Wiest, retiree

Edward F. Coyle, executive director of the Alliance for Retired Americans

Hundreds of members of the Alliance for Retired Americans

WHEN: 12 p.m. on Wednesday, November 19, 2003

WHERE: Russell Caucus Room, Russell Senate Building, Third Floor

http://www.usnewswire.com/
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 06:37 pm
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pistoff
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 06:55 pm
It's an outrage and a sham.
This legistlation wouldn't even take effect until 2006. Also, the drug part of the bill has not been seen by anyone. The drug part, 1,100 pages is supposed to surface on a day that Senators have only a few hours to review it. It is a disgrace!!! How can the AARP endorse something that no one has seen? Easy, they don't give a damn about Medicare or their members.

Amerika has become corupt to a point that in a few years this country will not be recognizable as America. It is going toward Amerika, where the Wealthy and The Police State will dominate and this country will be just another 3rd world outpost for the Multi-corps. If the citizens of this country don't slap themselves out of their slumber this country will not be fit to live in unless one is rich and walled in.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 07:48 pm
"For a congress person to vote yea on legislation they have only a passing knowledge of is not unusual. In fact it is the norm. Their leadership drives the ship and oftimes they are just passengers along for the ride."

My very point, Au. Why, look at the Patriot Act? Like, uh, who'd read that thing?

Anyone want an extra bumper sticker: "REPLACE CONGRESS NOW"?
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pistoff
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2003 08:52 pm
Various Hearings
I have arrived at the conclusion that they are designed to make it appear that Congress actually cares about issues. Just show and tell to give an impresion that they care. In fact, I believe they mean nothing.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Fri 21 Nov, 2003 08:19 am
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November 21, 2003 | Daily Mislead Archive
Bush Supports Medicare Bill Despite Its Failure to Reign in Drug Costs


President Bush has promoted his Medicare reform by focusing on the importance of keeping costs down. "We must protect seniors from high medical costs that can rob them of their savings."1 Before leaving for Great Britain earlier this week, he met with Congressional leaders and warned them "to remember the promise we have made to America's seniors, and to vote yes for this legislation."2 But the 1,100 page bill supported by the president expressly states the Medicare administrator cannot "interfere in any way with negotiations . . . otherwise interfere with the competitive nature of coverage"3 of prescription drug costs, despite the success in other agencies of reducing costs by government-pooled purchasing.

Government involvement in negotiating lower prices has existed for years. For example, the Veterans' Administration negotiates drug prices on behalf of enrollees in their programs, a method which a 2000 National Academy of Sciences study found had achieved nearly $100 million in savings over the previous two years.4

The president also insisted that any bill enable seniors who have drug coverage from their former employers whould be able to retain that, saying last year, "more than half of our seniors have private drug coverage now because of their previous employment. And government should act to strengthen these private health insurance options, not replace them."5

But an analysis of the final bill by the Center for American Progress found that it would "discourage employers from continuing to offer prescription drug coverage to their retirees by providing less Medicare assistance to such retirees than to other beneficiaries," resulting in the possible elimination of coverage for two to three million retirees, more than half of whom have incomes below $30,000.6

Sources:
Presidential Speech, 6/6/03.
President Meeting with Congressional Leadership, 11/17/03.
"61 percent of Medicare's New Prescription Drug Subsidy is Windfall Profit to Drug Makers," BU Health Reform Project, 10/31/03.
"Some Successful Models Ignored As Congress Works on Drug Bill," New York Times, 9/4/03, p. A1.
Presidential Speech, 7/11/02.
"Medicare Legislation: Think Twice," Center for American Progress, 11/14/03.
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