THE "WINK" WHAT DOES IT IMPLY???

@dyslexia,

Hi Dyslexia,
And a fast-flowing stinking dirty river around the corner.

Best wishes, sir.
Mark...

@ossobuco,

last time I was in london coffee seemed more popular than tea.

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@ossobuco,

Hi osso,
That's why we colonised america, so you lot would seek out new beverages for us (now that's forward planning).
Mark...

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@mark noble,

Ok, I give a grump at that.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

So, now it is the tags fault.

Hi osso,
I'm not blaming anything - I think it's a case of continental drift. But the topic is not listed where I intended it to be - Have a look in philosophy, it's not there - I assure you.
Best wishes.
Mark...

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@mark noble,

I don't give a poo about philosophy and its standards, or threads about winks as being somehow serious. My big plan is to not butt into serious philo debate threads. I mean that, if I can figure out which threads they are. Maybe we can have some kind of red stars for stay away.

However, I'll butt in to any other thread, gird your loins, and I hope you do too.

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@mark noble,

mark noble wrote:

Hi Steve,
Very honest of you, using your own name too, I might add. Well done.
I am not using any debating tactics - There is an underlying reason for the intentional transference of hidden information through the medium of a "Wink".
If the "wink" is habitual, it doesn't count. Someone who goes around just winking because they have picked it up and can't not wink at people is not a good model for this and need be illiminated from this topic. (Just in case)!
At all levels - Where a "wink" is applied there is a degree of "uncertainty" in its application, from sender perspective. The untrained eye of a receiver reads only, whatever hidden information they perceive in relation to the circumstances prevailing. Why so much fuss over a silly question - heaven only knows...
Thank you for your replies steve, have a fantastic day, sir.
Mark...

Prove it.

That's just babble with no supporting data.

Good grief.

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@The Pentacle Queen,

You're a goddess!

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

I was glad when Soz mentioned the preciousness.

I am having a problem with the preciousness ratio.

Looking forward to it dying down.

What do you think the PR level is in this thread?

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@mark noble,

This was my only post from page 5.

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Because I know a person who winked at me all the time and is now a louse I think it means: covering up/deceitful.

It all makes perfect sense to me Mark.
Proverbs 10:10

He who winks the eye causes trouble... O' Yeah this makes perfect sense to me. But as to this description fitting everyone who winks, like a glove, is too far fetched, I think you did agree to that and you made a good point that some who wink can be eliminated.
however,
I don't wink except with an emoticon Wink

(when I wink I feel either sarcastic or some affection for the poster)
And back to my original post. First time he winked at me I thought WTH. There is something to the proverb and I agreed with something you posted on a previous page.
paraphrasing you- The Bible has good and old knowledge about human behavior.- paraphrasing end.
I will now be skeptical if a person winks at me if I just met them.
Brooke stated her case well about the Professor who winks at her, it could Question

be what she has determined it to be....

Quote:

it's good to have you around.

The second part of that Proverbs 10:10 is

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but he who boldly reproves makes peace.

Don't fiddle around, give me your 2 Cents

what it means. I have no Idea

aHhhhhh the Birds are waking up outside
pEaCE

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@mark noble,

mark noble wrote:

Hi PQ,
On the religious divide, it appears to be on par with the "evil-eye". "He who winketh hateth" and all that, probably because it can infer suspicion into the mind of the observer when delivered without tended reason. When I last winked (about 5 years ago) it was purely a subliminal reaction to someone I seriously mistrusted. I have been winked at since only by those who appear to be vulnerable through their own imaginings, they also wink in the presence of others they feel uncomfortable with. Once their imaginings are reassured it goes away. So there is definitely an uncomfortability/uncertainty factor involved.

What I like about A lyn's posts is the manner in which she deduces, it is very much like my own. She has hit the nail on the head by deduction, not demanding an immediate reply, or throwing abuse, insulting me, etc.

When next you are winked at, question it quietly to yourself - What is being hidden?

Nice to meet you PQ, have a brilliant day.
Mark...

I don't really think it's deduction, I think it's far fetched guesswork. Ok, because it is similar to your own, you might like the way that A Lyn 'deduced' the set of meanings back on about page 4 in something similar to this manner:

Mark Noble is talking about winking having some sort of other meaning.
He tagged religion in the post.
Winks are about eyes.
Souls are meant to be connected with eyes. (Did s/he get this from the Bible?)
Therefore, when someone winks they are revealing part of their true self. (Their soul)

BUT... This does not stop it being a WHOLE LOAD OF RUBBISH, does it?
In this manner, I could 'deduce' practically anything from one original motive.

You didn't answer this part of my post:

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What I want to know, is:
If there is a 'deeper' meaning of the wink connected to social/religious elements, then does this account for ALL uses of the wink, whether the user is aware of that 'deeper' meaning or not?
There are a lot of winks that have been used on A2K- is this meaning pertinent to all of them?

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@Philis,

Philis wrote:

Don't fiddle around, give me your 2 Cents

what it means. I have no Idea

aHhhhhh the Birds are waking up outside
pEaCE
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Hi philis.
This "He who boldy reproves" - Confront the issue "Winker" and express your disapproval. By doing so you tend to illiminate the further usage of, and disuade the user thought patterns thereafter, - Bringing conclusion and "peace", if you like. Any fantasies the winker may have imagined are dealt with by reproval. - Their illusion is now dismissed. End of...
Have a lovely day, Philis.
Mark...

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@The Pentacle Queen,

Hi Pq,
May I just point out, "One man's rubbish is another man's treasure".
I think many of the threads on this forum are complete and utter rubbish, but I don't damn them because I think this, I just focus on the ones I am interested in.

You're entitled to your opinion, nevertheless, but why do you, like others, pursue what is of no interest to you, in the first place?

This thread should have been in the philosophy section, for like-minded individuals to query, but no! All normality has been disrupted by this change of forums.

My relationship to A Lyn, or anyone else, is none of your business.

I didn't answer some part of your post! Am I obliged to? No! But out of common courtesy, lacking here, I shall.

Where I live - people do NOT wink at people for any of the reasons pre-mentioned. And nobody has any problems relating to the terminology I have applied.

Anyway, Have a nice day PQ.
Mark...

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@mark noble,

PQ is doing a nice job here.

Rather than rebutting your claims too specifically, I'll just say that where I live, winks have many positive connotations, and sometimes are nothing but positive (as in the first example I gave in my first response, winking at my kid as a friendly "hello").

And while I haven't lived in Wales, I have lived in England, and have a bit of a hard time imagining that winks are really so negative as you make them out to be in your corner of the world. At the very least, the claims you are making for winks do not apply broadly. (At the very least.)

I do have a much better sense of your mindset and way of communicating after this thread, though, and I thank you for that. I doubt I'll get as annoyed in the future, now that I know what to expect. (I had thought this thread might turn out to be a good deal more interesting than it did turn out to be.)

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@sozobe,

Hi Sozobe,
I thank you for your post, and now understand why this thread has drawn so much supposition of great depth and exitement from so many unexpected quarters. I shall watch my methods of approach in the future.
I do believe though that (beyond the habitual nature) a "wink" is born to "uncertainty, "doubt" and "materialism of presumption".
Thank you again Sozobe. I find you to be constructive and mannerable, by the way.
Best wishes.
Mark...

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so, at the end of the day, mark noble applies universal concepts to his minute corner of the globe, and confused as to why no one understands his game.

the thread ends stupidly, as it began, and didn't make much sense or become clear at any point along the way.

lesson learned? mark noble is spendius, gungasnake and solve et whatever rolled into one.

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@chai2,

Hi Chai,
Thank you for not swearing for once.
Much appreciated, sir.
Mark...

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@mark noble,

mark noble wrote:

I do believe though that (beyond the habitual nature) a "wink" is born to "uncertainty, "doubt" and "materialism of presumption".

Emphasis on the "I do believe" in your above quote. Tis your belief and your right to such. However, your belief is not universal. What does the wink mean in your culture? Can you admit that different cultures have different perceptions of a wink? For example, in some cultures it may be perfectly fine to wink at a male, but if you wink at a female it is considered distasteful. What you have to realize is that there is no uniform or set answer to the meaning behind the wink, or the birth thereof. One's idea is one's own - not standardized across the many cultures or individuals.

If I wink at you, it might mean that I like you and I am just being playful. If I am suffering from any uncertainty, doubt, or materialism of presumption, as you equate a wink to, I can assure you that I would not be comfortable with you, thereby, NO thoughts of winking, as my playful side would be tucked away. The reasons given on this thread by the posters as to why they wink are equally as viable as your own. Smile

The only true meaning behind any given wink lies within the mind of the giver, just as any feelings of doubt, uncertainty, etc., they may or may not have. A wink born out of playfulness, in my opinion, likely happens more often than one born out of your suggestions.

Just my opinion. Wink

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I think there was a miscommunication from the start. Had Mark said, "The Eye Twitch, What Does It Imply?" we probably wouldn't have gone down this road. He seems to have been referring all along to an unintentional wink / twitch, which is, of course, quite different from an intentional wink.

Mark, we have a tv drama show here in the US called "Lie to Me" which explores the body language of lies. I've always enjoyed the study of human behavior.

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@JustBrooke,

Hi Brooklyn,
Where I live and commune is, indeed significant. Every creed, culture and religiously inclined dwell in my little corner, as some would say, and I know no other place on the planet that is so multi-culturally diverse and accepting of one another. I, and my close friends just happen to work and study in the heart of the community at large. It is the perfect situation for observing human-nature in relation to the habits and traits thereof.
We have business and admin psychologists from all ends of the country (Uk) coming to enquire of me and mine, as to what it is that makes the system here so ideal, culturally, religiously, communally, spiritually and ethically.

I, abruptly, ended this thread because I don't care any more for such discussion on what is drawn from the further analysis of what was founded at the onset of civilisation, and NOT from my inquisitive psyche. I find it is pointless discussing matters of philosophical-psychology here, and it was never my intention to do so. Oh how the old forum was so simple to navigate.

Why would anybody wink a greeting at someone? Just say "Hi", what further is being communicated? When someone winks at their child, on a stage, to somehow offer support??? Do they not fear their child's confidence in said situation? Have they not considered the potential anxiety in their child's mind? The "Uncertainty factor" (doubt) is present in all. When you encounter someone in the real world, you cannot know what frame of mind they are in, until you ask or are told. It can be complicated to communicate when you, yourself are not in a talkative state. This is when "winking" becomes a universal application. Deference of eye-contact is, indeed drawn from universals. Every thing about a person gives them away, their walk, their talk, the way they sit/stand, eat, grin, lean, hold, drop, etc, etc. There's nothing new about any of this in the relative quarters.

Don't even get me started on "incoherent whistling" that'll blow your minds away.

Anyway Brooklyn, have a fantastic day, and thank you for your comments.
Mark...

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