imans
 
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Thu 7 Mar, 2013 04:55 pm
@Looking4Truth,
Looking4Truth wrote:

You say "while perceiving the end being really positive truth", right, but also after the end, the beginning being only truth. Positive and negative, good and evil, light and darkness, they were created simultaneously. Without one wouldn't be the other. With one there must be the other.


it is incredible how u say nothing in form of very smart thing from u, u r nothing but u pretendin being able to anything u r also the proof of what opposites are never to anything at all but to kick at the end out of any

first illuminated ****, u cant use the word created when u r meanin things of truth, created by what moron then speak of that creator for truth
second, beggining and end are the same truth which is superiority always, but then end is positive superiority so objective existence while the begining is relative superiority so only superiority always but cant stay constant, it depends on objective conception being relatively existing

what is superior and objective since existence is true watever u wish the opposite, is always only linear way and when it is not really being superior it is free where freedom is always superiority base
what is nothing objectively but existin consciously so free from all is superior whatever always right
but also what is individually free is the most in truth one, bc existence is true so the only freedom is gathered in terms of positive identity of one

u r a loser bc u dare think negative and opposites and inferiority as sources, which show how u have no least idea of being someone urself nor about any conscious u might pretend being able to claim seein a point

and finally evil living, since opposites must exist simultaneously, then why meanin anything and how is that possible to mean everyting through only one thing and never its opposite
ooh bc it is the creator will of course to u or bc only the creator matter to u
but then when u cant perceive in everything includin urself but the reality of opposites from which reference r u advocatin only one ?? ohh bc he talk to u how did u get his talk being nonopposite ??? and if god is opposite too then nongod or god oppositions is very right too

i can beat u in ur field that u dont even explore any of as far as u r fake
north
 
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Fri 8 Mar, 2013 08:43 pm
Again as I have asked on this thread " how can something come from nothing "

Has " nothing been defined " ?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Fri 8 Mar, 2013 09:44 pm
@north,
I do not think that anything can come from nothing...unless this nothing is nothing, and will always be nothing...which nothing that is something could never quantify = any thing that has some value, other than nothing could never quantify...If there is any evidence that there is anything at all...(it does not matter if we think it is nothing or not) If there is any evidence then it is not, and will never be nothing...nothing can only be nothing, and can not be anything other than nothing...

Example: People think that the universe before what it currently is was nothing...Or certain areas of space are nothing...but I do not think that this is factually correct...because if there is something now...then there never could have been nothing there...and there always must have been something, since there is something there...It does not matter if we think it was nothing...before it became something...if it is something and not nothing, then it had to be something and not nothing...

I don't think anyone knows what nothing is...because everything that tries to describe nothing is something or has a value of some sort...

Only nothing knows what nothing is if there is nothing...and then like you have said does nothing have a value? and if it does is it actually nothing anymore?
north
 
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Fri 8 Mar, 2013 11:22 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

I do not think that anything can come from nothing...unless this nothing is nothing, and will always be nothing...which nothing that is something could never quantify = any thing that has some value, other than nothing could never quantify...If there is any evidence that there is anything at all...(it does not matter if we think it is nothing or not) If there is any evidence then it is not, and will never be nothing...nothing can only be nothing, and can not be anything other than nothing...

Example: People think that the universe before what it currently is was nothing...Or certain areas of space are nothing...but I do not think that this is factually correct...because if there is something now...then there never could have been nothing there...and there always must have been something, since there is something there...It does not matter if we think it was nothing...before it became something...if it is something and not nothing, then it had to be something and not nothing...

I don't think anyone knows what nothing is...because everything that tries to describe nothing is something or has a value of some sort...

Only nothing knows what nothing is if there is nothing...and then like you have said does nothing have a value? and if it does is it actually nothing anymore?


I myself though define nothing as the absolute opposite of something

And I agree , nothing cannot become something , otherwise it was something in the first place

And therefore nothing cannot evolve to become

Nothing has neither qualities nor quantities nor form(outside the practical , such as nothing in my account , nothing in the fridge etc. )
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Looking4Truth
 
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Sat 9 Mar, 2013 06:24 am
@Zarathustra,
Intriguing. That's something I have not heard nor looked into before. Thank you.
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Looking4Truth
 
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Sat 9 Mar, 2013 06:36 am
@imans,
So basically, you've made yourself convertible and I didn't. Awesome! Laughing
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Looking4Truth
 
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Sat 9 Mar, 2013 06:53 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
What about "nothing" changing into something? What If a "something" added value to nothing. That would, I know, be the something coming from a "something", unless the "something" needed to start from a "nothing". With something added to "nothing" from "something", I would have to disagree and say something can come from nothing as long as the "nothing" has the influence from something.
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Looking4Truth
 
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Sat 9 Mar, 2013 08:36 am
@imans,
I'm sorry, this android tries to fix my spelling. I said "comfortable", and my phone translated "convertible".

So you have made yourself comfortable and I didn't. Laughing still hilarious!
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imans
 
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Sun 10 Mar, 2013 03:18 am
@imans,
it is the opposite to ur claim, provin the way u r through constant
u made ur comfort basically by assumin that nothing cant b considered smthg so u must use things and else always to claim anything about urself existence or reality
too easy way to abuse whatever u can have hand on while claimin that it is to things possessions

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imans
 
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Sun 10 Mar, 2013 03:21 am
how can u say there is nothing when u r there??? it is the proof that there is smthg at least u
this is the issue that insistence to not include urself when u mean true existence facts and realities
which lead to such unsanity that consider nothing being the fact while surrounded by so much things and others living beings and conscious murders and worse hell
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may13387
 
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Fri 15 Mar, 2013 08:58 pm
@kennethamy,
Good argument. What if everything's a dream? Something that isn't real, this too means something exists - the dream exists. It is impossible for nothing to exist because there is always something whether it's reality or not.
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may13387
 
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Fri 15 Mar, 2013 09:09 pm
@kennethamy,
Quote:
What's ambiguous about it?


Everything, duh. No one KNOWS anything, not even you. It's an unclear mystery. Rolling Eyes
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may13387
 
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Fri 15 Mar, 2013 09:15 pm
@kennethamy,
Quote:
Questions do not have definitions


What school did you go to? I mean, OMG. Questions have definitions! How are you? That questions definition is: a question about what you feel like, your feelings, etc... Also, he meant the WORD not the QUESTION.

Quote:
could you list those two meanings?


Well,
1. Open to more than one interpretation, having a double meaning.
2. Mysteriously unclear.
3. ikely to describe a furtively unclear person whose personality is indistinct, usually making it difficult for many people to understand them. This can cause these individuals to have little or no friends.
4. To describe the style of someone who is a mixture of the stereotypes punk, goth, emo, scene, & girlie.

And a bunch of other definitions are in the word.
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mark noble
 
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Tue 16 Apr, 2013 08:45 am
Oh, Imans......
Dear me.
Still trolling these realms?
I have already classified you, and your multiple accounts/personalities duly, and, once again, implore you to venture unto the plane of immediate suicide!
Cheers m8s
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mark noble
 
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Tue 16 Apr, 2013 09:00 am
So, where are we at folks?
Still determining whether 'something' can arise from 'nothing', or content with the frikkin obvious?

Would be nice to move-on and introduce the implications of the frikkin obvious, explain the dynamics of both 'infinity' and 'eternity', what it means to 'you, me and every composition in this cosmos'. And, maybe delve into 'M-theory/String-theory, and as to why we are all doomed to exist FOR FCKIN EVER as ourselves/variations thereof and even 'IMANS'........... on occassion..........grrrrrrrr.
Smile
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Tue 16 Apr, 2013 04:07 pm
@mark noble,
Nooooo...don't remind me I gonna be Imans one of these days, that's torture ! You evil evil man ! Confused

"...Freedoms rights gonna forever be true not matter u beliefs in evil religion false god u gonna burn in hell forever..."

Noooooooooo !
JLNobody
 
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Tue 16 Apr, 2013 04:20 pm
@north,
Interesting paradoxical title: Does nothing exist? It would seem that we should ask Does nothing non-exist? I sense that everything comes from nothing in the sense that before coming into form objects were "indiscernible" (a formless potentiality) but eventually came into some kind(s) of form. So the abstraction, "nothing," has the potential for becoming "something".
At the same time forms or objects are also "nothings" in the sense that they are always changing, or losing their form. That is to say existing "things" are also "no-things."
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Tue 16 Apr, 2013 04:44 pm
@JLNobody,
As change is not nothing then perhaps changing things are just changing things... Wink
mark noble
 
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Tue 16 Apr, 2013 04:58 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Sorry Fil:)
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mark noble
 
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Tue 16 Apr, 2013 05:04 pm
For those of you who know not - All tv series and movies over 16 wks old are free online at 'Tube+' Just choose n play, no registration.
So watch - Movie, genre - fantasy - 'Mr Nobody' Kinda sums string theory, butterfly-effect and Big crunch up
Quite nicely.
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