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is adultery a crime?

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 06:49 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
i have no desire to have sex with another mans horse


for the record i have no desire to have sex with any horse, well except maybe sarah jessica parker




Just DON 'T start posting any pony porn.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 06:52 pm
@GoshisDead,
GoshisDead wrote:
The downfall of a horse theivery analogy is that unlike a wife horses are not presumed to have free will, the ability to make rational choices, or the ability to voluntarily enter a contract.

It is possible that adultry laws are holdovers from times where a bride was a business transaction, which would make the horse analogy much more appropriate.
The Common Law "trespass per quad servitium amisit"
laid for impregnating plaintiff's wife or servant. Volition was not considered.





David
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GoshisDead
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 06:55 pm
@dyslexia,
lol it didn't register with me that there might have been actual netiquette involved with the distinction between the two. No need to stand on protocol for me just trying to work into the place. I think its a grand question nonetheless.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 06:55 pm
@GoshisDead,
GoshisDead wrote:
Sorry guys, getting used to the tenor in this new forum, lots more quipping and levity promoted here.
WELCOME to the forum!





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 06:57 pm
@dyslexia,
GoshisDead wrote:

So is this a discussion of silly laws or a discussion about the ethics of outdated or potentially right violating laws?
dyslexia wrote:
please to note this thread is posted as a question not a discussion----"is adultery a crime?"
Then: the answer is YES.
shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 07:58 pm
@GoshisDead,
GoshisDead wrote:


However, in taking the government out of our sex lives we also open up issues like deadbeat parents and child support. It is hard do deregulate relationship laws and not deregulate child abandonment laws.


I dont know about that.
I see your point completely but I still question how that would effect DNA tests.
There is a substantial amount of PROOF that comes from a dna test.
Not so much so from the tales of adultery. In fact, with out photo proof, adultery is just hear say anyway.

DNA says ' your sperm and her egg made a baby'. Not much to do with sex crimes, sex laws or anything else. Even now in the courts, whether or not the child was conceived out of a marriage, due to adultery or even rape, it does not effect the lump SUM someone should pay for child support. Your income does that.

how would removing the government from the bedroom effect something like that.. ?

( quietly picturing the white house in my bed.........Neutral )
shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 07:59 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

Yes, but horses used to be valuable transportation.


Yeah.
I'd like to see you try to hop on a womans back like that..
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 08:01 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Just DON 'T start posting any pony porn.


took the words right outta my mouth.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 08:02 pm
@GoshisDead,
Dys is ******* with you to a certain extent.

yes, it was posted as a question, but here? In this forum? As you can see Laughing our topics involve everything even while staying ON topic.

Horse sex
adultery
child support
mounting women for transportation.

Yeeeeeup. By golly. We got's it all.

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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 08:03 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

GoshisDead wrote:

So is this a discussion of silly laws or a discussion about the ethics of outdated or potentially right violating laws?
dyslexia wrote:
please to note this thread is posted as a question not a discussion----"is adultery a crime?"
Then: the answer is YES.



Not in my state. So from my stand point the answer is no.

Though, i must admit.. if it is illegal in ONE state, doesnt that MAKE it a crime no matter what?
dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 08:06 pm
@GoshisDead,
although it was posted specifically as a question, it was alsom simply meant as a ponderable issue. I wondered as I read the news item why the police officer would tack on the charge of adultery (perhaps he was motivated by his own ethic/whatever) it's such an non-enforceable statute. Also it seems to me that it's quite likely that should the case go before a judge, the judge would be inclined to dismiss the specific charge of adultery rendering the action of the officer moot.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 08:29 pm
@dyslexia,
I see it the same way, dys.
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Irishk
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 08:29 pm
@dyslexia,
Some states where it was a crime have repealed the law. Maybe it had something to to with divorce laws. Now that there are no-fault divorces, there's no need for it? Dunno.

It would be strange if, in NY for example, a spouse could catch their mate cheating, call the police and have them sent to the slammer. Never heard of it...but it appears to be a crime there, at least.

dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 08:40 pm
@Irishk,
yes, I get that, however what caused my curiosity in this case (as reported) is that the charge of adultery was solely initiated by the police officer which makes me wonder what would have been his motivation for the charge. had his wife cheated on him? was he just having a bad day? was he displaying his uniformed authority? what? In addition what would be the action taken by a no doubt very busy New York City judge to such an obscure charge?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 08:59 pm
@shewolfnm,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

GoshisDead wrote:

So is this a discussion of silly laws or a discussion about the ethics of outdated or potentially right violating laws?
dyslexia wrote:
please to note this thread is posted as a question not a discussion----"is adultery a crime?"
Then: the answer is YES.
shewolfnm wrote:



Not in my state. So from my stand point the answer is no.

Though, i must admit.. if it is illegal in ONE state, doesnt that MAKE it a crime no matter what?
It was only a crime because the facts happened in the State that criminalized them.

Elsewhere, it is not a crime (without such a statute).





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 09:01 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:
although it was posted specifically as a question, it was alsom simply meant as a ponderable issue.
I wondered as I read the news item why the police officer would tack on the charge of adultery
I bet he was just having a little professional fun.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 09:01 pm
@dyslexia,
good questions
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GoshisDead
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 10:09 pm
@shewolfnm,
shewolfnm wrote:

GoshisDead wrote:


However, in taking the government out of our sex lives we also open up issues like deadbeat parents and child support. It is hard do deregulate relationship laws and not deregulate child abandonment laws.


I dont know about that.
I see your point completely but I still question how that would effect DNA tests.
There is a substantial amount of PROOF that comes from a dna test.
Not so much so from the tales of adultery. In fact, with out photo proof, adultery is just hear say anyway.

DNA says ' your sperm and her egg made a baby'. Not much to do with sex crimes, sex laws or anything else. Even now in the courts, whether or not the child was conceived out of a marriage, due to adultery or even rape, it does not effect the lump SUM someone should pay for child support. Your income does that.

how would removing the government from the bedroom effect something like that.. ?

( quietly picturing the white house in my bed.........Neutral )



I was just using hyperbole to express that I may not be swinging completely to a libertarian standpoint on the government intervening in the sex lives of the citizenry. I was expressing that there are legitimate issues for which my carnal urges could and should be regulated. It may be regulated after the fact but still it is regulation on how, when, and with whom I should have sex.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 10:26 pm
@Irishk,
At one time, I believe it was the only ground for a divorce in NY state.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 10:55 pm
@roger,
I think that was the case many places. Odd that, even though it was the only grounds and there certainly were plenty of divorces, I don't ever recall a party to a divorce being charged.
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