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Sat 17 Apr, 2010 07:36 pm
if an atheist is kept alive (artificially) forever and tortured (everything he/she wanted, thought, or felt the opposite occurred) forever at some point in time it will want God or something like a God (beyond it) to save it? Right?
Would you believe in a God to stop continuous torture/pain?
If you can't stop it yourself or any other way wouldn't you resort to asking for someone or something else beyond you to?
Not that doing so would be successful, but that any living thing would have to ask because it is in it's own self interest to.
@awareness,
awareness;153341 wrote:if an atheist is kept alive (artificially) forever and tortured (everything he/she wanted, thought, or felt the opposite occurred) forever at some point in time it will want God or something like a God (beyond it) to save it? Right?
Would you believe in a God to stop continuous torture/pain?
If you can't stop it yourself or any other way wouldn't you resort to asking for someone or something else beyond you to?
Not that doing so would be successful, but that any living thing would have to ask because it is in it's own self interest to.
so , by torture , god is forced upon one ?
is that what it takes to believe in a god ? shame full
and I imagine that there are many that were tortured that do believe in god who where not rescued because they do believe in god
@awareness,
awareness;153341 wrote:if an atheist is kept alive (artificially) forever and tortured (everything he/she wanted, thought, or felt the opposite occurred) forever at some point in time it will want God or something like a God (beyond it) to save it? Right?
Would you believe in a God to stop continuous torture/pain?
If you can't stop it yourself or any other way wouldn't you resort to asking for someone or something else beyond you to?
Not that doing so would be successful, but that any living thing would have to ask because it is in it's own self interest to.
i would expect to be tortured until a real person or thing could intercede....the idea that magic might save me wouldnt really help me much...
@awareness,
awareness;153341 wrote:if an atheist is kept alive (artificially) forever and tortured (everything he/she wanted, thought, or felt the opposite occurred) forever at some point in time it will want God or something like a God (beyond it) to save it? Right?
Would you believe in a God to stop continuous torture/pain?
If you can't stop it yourself or any other way wouldn't you resort to asking for someone or something else beyond you to?
Not that doing so would be successful, but that any living thing would have to ask because it is in it's own self interest to.
Be careful with absolutes in understanding concerning what you are talking about.
I am not trying to be hateful as I am against hate, What I am trying to convey is that we all get absolutes wrong at some point in our life. Your friend. Reasoning Self Logic.
@reasoning logic,
Athiests do exist, that's their problem.
@awareness,
awareness;153341 wrote:if an atheist is kept alive (artificially) forever and tortured (everything he/she wanted, thought, or felt the opposite occurred) forever at some point in time it will want God or something like a God (beyond it) to save it? Right?
Would you believe in a God to stop continuous torture/pain?
If you can't stop it yourself or any other way wouldn't you resort to asking for someone or something else beyond you to?
Not that doing so would be successful, but that any living thing would have to ask because it is in it's own self interest to.
Whatever your on, please send me some.
@awareness,
It's been said that there are no athiests in foxholes, but I don't know if this is true.
@reasoning logic,
Athiests do exist
and in the end religion will be our , Humanities down fall
religion(s) divides Humanity
divide and conquer
@north,
north;153366 wrote:Athiests do exist
and in the end religion will be our , Humanities down fall
religion(s) divides Humanity
divide and conquer
Religions may tend toward dividing humanity into groups, but I really can't see where atheism has ever done anything to bring humanity together.
@wayne,
wayne;153365 wrote:It's been said that there are no athiests in foxholes, but I don't know if this is true.
ive heard there are no atheists in prison...but i wouldnt know...
@dredpiraterob,
dredpiraterob;153369 wrote:ive heard there are no atheists in prison...but i wouldnt know...
Being an athiest may have put them there.
@wayne,
wayne;153368 wrote:Religions may tend toward dividing humanity into groups, but I really can't see where atheism has ever done anything to bring humanity together.
you can't see it because religions overwhelm athiests
@sometime sun,
Over all over everything does thieism heal mor ethan it hurts,
be honest,
weight up the contributors and the selfless
over the objectors and the selfish
What is the oposite of a conscientious objector?
@north,
north;153373 wrote:you can't see it because religions overwhelm athiests
That makes absolutely no sense.
@sometime sun,
sometime sun;153371 wrote:Being an athiest may have put them there.
That is absolute BS.
Statistically there are more religious people in prisons than non. It is not that they all of a sudden become religious while in prison. Stop spreading falseness. Nothing more annoying than a person who lies to make their religious beliefs feel better.
@Krumple,
Krumple;153379 wrote:That is absolute BS.
Statistically there are more religious people in prisons than non. It is not that they all of a sudden become religious while in prison. Stop spreading falseness. Nothing more annoying than a person who lies to make their religious beliefs feel better.
There are pretenders in both our fields,
overall there are more religious theist people, period.
Think about it this way, more athiests find God in prison.
@sometime sun,
sometime sun;153375 wrote:Over all over everything does thieism heal mor ethan it hurts,
be honest,
weight up the contributors and the selfless
over the objectors and the selfish
What is the oposite of a conscientious objector?
let me put it this way ;
I asked about a year ago , this question ;
who believes in their own Humanity , on another site
I got an astonishingly less then 10 responses to the positive towards Humanity , collectively
@sometime sun,
sometime sun;153381 wrote:There are pretenders in both our fields,
overall there are more religious theist people, period.
Think about it this way, more athiests find God in prison.
That is nonsense too. You are quickly losing credit on your arguments.
@north,
north;153378 wrote:Quote:
Originally Posted by
north 
you can't see it because religions overwhelm athiests
why not ?
Apparently religion has brought humanity together well enough to overwhelm the atheists.
Krumple;153379 wrote:That is absolute BS.
Statistically there are more religious people in prisons than non. It is not that they all of a sudden become religious while in prison. Stop spreading falseness. Nothing more annoying than a person who lies to make their religious beliefs feel better.
There are so many holes in that it isn't funny.
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