Heathcare sucks in America.

but paying 1,000 for a single visit to the doctors is too much for my blood.

Well, I would definitely agree that it is out of control. But I cannot say how to begin to cover the health care costs of a population which does so little to take care of itself. It will be interesting to watch how this how thing evolves.

Rich

But I cannot say how to begin to cover the health care costs of a population which does so little to take care of itself.

Here is the thing. Do you really think that the over all pricing of medical treatments is going to somehow lower with this new health care plan? If that were the case then you would see medical practitioners and hospitals crying and complaining, but you don't see them doing this, why? Because they know that once this health care system goes through, that they can charge EVEN MORE for medical treatments.

But I get yelled at all the time saying that won't happen. But any time the government steps in and says that it will pay for it, what happens? The price of the goods or services goes up. Why? Because if you are not paying for it from YOUR pocket, they know that the government WILL pay any amount so they charge more. Look at any government run job. They are often running three times more in bids than in private companies?

People don't seem to care, why? Because it is not coming directly out of their pocket? But it is. You think that the medical pay comes out of thin air? NO, it comes out of tax payers. You really think businesses are going to freely pay for medical care? NO, they are going to pass their payments onto their employees. You might not see it actually appear on your pay check but they will reduce how much they pay you. They wont actually tell you they are paying you less, they just wont give you your next raise.

This will happen until they can account for how much the goverment requires that they pay. So small companies will have to pay even larger taxes to the government and they will ultimately have to pass those costs onto consumers. Higher prices for goods and services. SO EVERYTHING COSTS MORE and you make LESS ON YOUR PAY CHECKS.

So now we go back to complaining about a thousand dollar medical visit? Well I bet now you probably paid the equivalent of two thousand dollars instead. It's just you didn't actually see where they were taking the money from, but they did. This is why you don't see any doctors or hospitals complaining, because ultimately they will make MORE MONEY on this new medical bill.

This is why you hear people saying they like the way things are now better than this new system. Why? Because in reality you WILL pay more than you currently do. It just won't be you signing a check, but instead it will be with you receiving less ON your check.

This is utterly misguided in my opinion. Surely, this new plan is going to cost more, and that means higher taxes for everyone, but so what?

Then why the hell were you *****in' about price in your initial post for this thread if you don't care about cost?

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If you don't want the country to become gehetto, then don't support this health care system. Because it is not going to be a pretty sight. It will be riddled with over consumption and low quality care. Mean while the rest of the country will be even more poor because of lower wages and raising prices of goods and other services to pay for this system. The country won't be any better off, it will just mean a drastic drop in the standard of living for everyone.

You'll get your chance to see just how misguided I am. I'll see you on the other side when you are saying, "No one could have known how bad it would be.

I for one am amazed at the emotions this issue is raising. Must be a money thing as usual.

What makes me angry is the moral issue. I don` t like seeing people being turned down a medical service, because they don` t have the money to pay their expensive medical cost. I am really surprise by the people here. It is as if you people never ever pay your medical bills.

Here is the thing. Do you really think that the over all pricing of medical treatments is going to somehow lower with this new health care plan?

Because i do care about cost. why so angry, dude? Must have something in your ass, yes?

Now, I advice you to actually get out of your little hole, because you don` t live in the same world as me. My bet is that you never even travel outside the U.S, or perhaps, you are so poor that you are on welfare, and life is good.

Total rejection of an emergency does not usually happen to those without insurance or even without citizenship.

The care may be mediocre, but it is better than nothing.