@fast,
Reconstructo wrote:You experience of these microbes is mediated
I still don't understand why you think the way you do.
Just because:
Quote:our experience of them is conditioned by human sensation and human interpretation
doesn't mean that what we experience isn't real, or is less real in some way. That's the mistake you're making. That because we experience the world with our human senses, we are not experiencing what is real. This is false.
Quote:You don't experience these microbes in themselves.
Think about what you're saying. What would experiencing the microbes
in themselves even mean? I don't think you even know. But if you do, please explain to me.
Quote:Microbes are assembled from data from the senses and the interpretation of this data.
You admit that microbes are mind-independent but then say they are assembled from data from the senses? How could my chair be assembled from an interpretation of data? This is strange stuff. My chair was actually assembled out of plastic, wood, and leather, as far as I know.
Are these the beliefs of some sort of mysticism? That's fine, I just hope you let me know what I'm dealing with here.
Quote: Devoid of consciousness and culture, they would not exist for you, as they do not exist for the dead.
This is saying almost nothing. Except that if I were dead, I would not be conscious. How this relates to our discussion, I do not know. I find it also strange you wanted to remind me of this.
Quote:Scientific ideology pretends to a certain skepticism, but tends to inspire a sort of dogmatic resistance to any questioning of its axioms.
And here you go again. I can't count how many times you've reiterated this. I consider my knowing that my chair is made of wood, plastic, and leather nothing science related. In fact, it's almost common sense if you glanced at my chair. But if you want to call me a scientific idealist simply because I think that may chair isn't made of sense data, fine by me.
I'm going to tell my girlfriend tonight that the food she just made is assembled from sense data, and see what kind of loony stare I get.