Mr Fight the Power
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2009 05:50 am
@Theaetetus,
Theaetetus wrote:
In times of a growing surplus of labor with no work something needs to be done to slow the rise of unemployment. Otherwise, what ends up happening is that capitalism undermines itself, because the necessary consumers to keep the economy chugging along do not have the necessary funds at their disposal.

That is the one thing that the New Deal truly succeeded at. It was a good investment in the public infrastructure. The market will only correct itself as long as there is not a surplus of labor.


Surplus labor is dealt with by the lowering of aggregate wages, which in turn lowers prices, which then stimulates demand.

Why would you say that the market will not correct as long as there is a surplus of labor?

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Theaetetus wrote:
Lowering the unemployment rate was not so much the purpose, it was to stop it from continuing to rise. Just because it was only lowered the unemployment rate by a few percentage points does not mean that it wasn't effective. Reversing the trend of rising unemployment in itself was a major achievement at the time. The fact that it lowered unemployment was only a testament to its overall effectiveness.


What justification do you have for this statement. The unemployment rate was 25%! How much higher do you think it was set to go?
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BrightNoon
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2009 11:51 am
@Elmud,
Elmud wrote:
Franklin D. Roosevelt received much criticism for implementing a more active role of the governments assistance in private enterprise back in the nineteen thirties. The New deal was thought of by others as a form of Fascism, socialism or regimentation. In his fireside chats, he defended his program as a means to rebuild a broken economy and ease the strains of unemployment which at the time, was about twenty five percent. Was it a good idea? My relatives who lived back in those days were in favor of it and held FDR. in high regard. Today, unemployment is high, but not as bad as it was then. Still, it seems that government is leaning towards assisting private enterprise. Are we heading for a new type of a New Deal, or is it practical in todays economic climate?


The new deal did not solve the problems that caused the great depression; it made them worse by preventing creative destruction. The new new deal will not solve the problems that are causing this depression for exactly the same reasons. But things are much worse, or will be, this time around. The century old monetary expansion/keynesian stimulus system is meeting its ultimate demies. The government cannot reinflate the credit bubble that the government created, but the government will try and thereby create the first inflationairy depression in America. We are reaping the harvest of decades of malinvestment and debt. The new new deal only makes sense in that it follows the popular mantra that extraordinary times require extraodrinary (illegal) measures. These people who support the adminstration, or who supported the last, consistently fail to recognize that these busts are the effect of government intervention and cannot be solved by government intervention.
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2009 06:07 am
@BrightNoon,
But as the great depression proved laissez faire is equally problematic- so what would your solution be?
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