What Is Your Problem With Anarchy?

Exactly my point as well. I do not kill because it does not serve me to do so.

I thought I might share this quote to help some of the skeptics of anarchism understand the conditions that describe an anarchist society:


-Lame Deer, Sioux medicine man

To "kill"?

That's serves an anti-anarchic purpose as a singular and deliberate definitive resource. What is killed if I breathe, or eat a mushroom.

Ever seen 'Horton Hears a Who'?

so what did the chief do when someone murdered ??? I would like to be given a good example of anarchy in action...Heaven on earth is just as much a dream as heaven itself...

Huh?



I am not going to equate a modern anarchy with the primitivism of tribal life. The division of labor has become far to complex to be supported in this manner.

No anarchist, however, believes anarchy to be heaven on Earth, rather he or she believes anarchy to be the best solution.

There will be unacceptable behavior within the anarchistic system, this is assured as people are not perfect. But this quote is good in that it reflects the general change in attitude that most anarchists would point to within a true anarchistic system.

i dont expect heaven but i think we should strivefor it..can you give me a reasonable example of an anarchistic society?

One has never existed to my knowledge.

It's funny that you say we should strive for heaven on earth. I strive for perfection in everything that I do but I know better than to expect it to actually happen. Is futility really a method of living successfully?

I strive for perfection in everything that I do but I know better than to expect it to actually happen. Is futility really a method of living successfully?

One has never existed to my knowledge.

It's funny that you say we should strive for heaven on earth. I strive for perfection in everything that I do but I know better than to expect it to actually happen. Is futility really a method of living successfully?

i dont expect heaven but i think we should strivefor it..can you give me a reasonable example of an anarchistic society?

Anarchism has occurred on small scales around the world in the modern era, and of course there was no such thing as a state for most human existence.

But has anarchism succeeded over a significant period of time on a large scale? No.

This, of course, is no knock on anarchism. Imagine a discussion between political thinkers concerning the feasibility of democracy three or four centuries ago.

I think you will find the ancient greeks invented democracy...many small tribes or villages are democracies in miniature rather than anarchistic.Crap leaders are either slung out or murdered..

It seems that social structure by nature was intended to be short lived. They seem like a reaction to crisis, and thus, are only useful as long as they are necessary. After that they become a hindrance.

Which is why anarchy is a good solution. Built out of necessity, maintained as needed.

Anarchy is the Vicodin of Social concepts.

Which is why anarchy is a good solution. Built out of necessity, maintained as needed.

Anarchy is the Vicodin of Social concepts.

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The problem with anarchy I believe is that it cannot support our society. People are only as good as the world allows them to be, and in the absense of centralised government, it is impossible to prevent greed and other such basic human qualities from ruling the individual.

If you asked in turn, why society was necessary, then it comes down the simple weighing of benefits versus costs that we inherit from it, and the simple fact of the matter is that society does have its uses. It does have some very substantial benefits. At a basic animalistic level, we survive better in numbers... in communities. If the anarchists objection to the state is based on an ethical defense of his own liberalism, then he has ignored the nature of his own existence. Humans are animals, a sexually reproducing organism that can only exist because their complete self liberalism and individualism are inevitably violated throughout their life as they interact with a mother that raises them and a mate to reproduce with, as do all animals. Yes, communities that are held together by systems and rules violate the individuals' liberty tenfold more, but the anarchist cannot claim that his right to individuality is completely stricken from him by the state. This is simply untrue.

I totally agree. The problem of course is that far too few people are capable of self-legislation. Not to mention, it seems that the introduction of money into a society seems to reduce the possibility of self-governed society. Certain human emotions and vices seem to guarantee that conflict arises when one has what another wants.