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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:23 am
@Ionus,
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doesnt help if you weaken one side with social engineering


Far more likely getting this silliness and cause of fiction behind us for once and all will strength the military not weaken it.

This should had happen under Clinton and if it had any possible turmoil that then had resulted would had been in the past.

This situation is as if instead of Truman having integrating the military we had waited for Kennedy to do so.

We are way behind the time line in this matter.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:24 am
@hawkeye10,
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allow gay partners full marriage benifits


Sorry I do not see that as follow at all and if memory serve me correctly the Supreme Court did not overturn black/white bans on marriages in the south for a decade or more after 1948.
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:25 am
@BillRM,
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Sorry your position have zero foundation in logic or common sense
Here's a good idea for you... jump in your car and find a truck that is not giving right away to you and drive in front of it. It wont be your fault if anyone dies and you will have the pleasure of being a social engineer putting his life on the line.

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Once more modern militaries had have open gay members for some time in combat and still remain first rate.
Again, your stupidity wont allow you to recognise what happened with the dutch.
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:28 am
@BillRM,
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As far as turmoil in the forces you somehow do not think that this stupid policy of do not ask, do not tell is not causing turmoil?
You mean the policy forced on the military by clowns like you ? Do you think the military wanted that policy ? They wanted society to sort it out first.

Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:29 am
@BillRM,
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This time unlike the blacks in the military in 1948 the society is way ahead of the military so that is not a large issue.
That is the most pathetic wish-filled piece of bullshit you have ever fabricated. There are no problems with homosexuals in USA society ? Are you mad ?
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:32 am
@Ionus,
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you to recognise what happened with the dutch.


LOL please tell us all in details how those evil and horny gay Dutch troopers cause the well train and well led straight Netherlands peace keepers to stand aside and allow murder to happen in front of them.

That would never had happen if there had not been gays in the force I am sure but let hear the details of what happen.

You silly asshole.
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:34 am
@BillRM,
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This situation is as if instead of Truman having integrating the military we had waited for Kennedy to do so.
What would have been the problem with blacks fighting alongside blacks with black officers and whites doing the same untill society gave equal rights to blacks at least. But even now it might be a good idea to give people a choice of what unit to serve in, as bonding with the others in that unit is the only thing that will limit casualties. But you dont care about casualties do you ?
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:35 am
@BillRM,
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Sorry I do not see that as follow at all and if memory serve me correctly the Supreme Court did not overturn black/white bans on marriages in the south for a decade or more after 1948.
So you agree the military was being used to drive society and not the other way around ?
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:39 am
@BillRM,
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That would never had happen if there had not been gays in the force I am sure but let hear the details of what happen
Even after discussing it for this amount of time you still understand nothing ? Get someone to translate it for you. A general tried to tell everyone and he was shut up by dickheads like you. Now you want to know the truth ? But you wanted him to shut up...which is it you stupid prick ?
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:40 am
@Ionus,
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think the military wanted that policy


No they wish instead to have ongoing witch hunts without limits as that is surely the best way of keeping moral high in fighting units?

Do you have a girlfriend soldier and let see some letters from her and we had taken note that you had not been known to join your unit mates with the hookers…………

My father told me how in WW2 during intake they separated the married men from the non-married men and then question the latter group concerning their relationship with women.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:44 am
@Ionus,
You got to be kidding me we should allow white power nuts to have their own units instead of trying to drive them out of the military!

Well it should result in some more small units actions but not with the enemy.

You are a complete nut case.
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:48 am
@BillRM,
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No they wish instead to have ongoing witch hunts without limits as that is surely the best way of keeping moral high in fighting units?
That iis based on your experience as a member of the general staff...you have lived quite a life in your imagination havent you ? As a female asian who thinks they are an old man in the USA with a comb over....


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My father told me how in WW2 during intake they separated the married men from the non-married men and then question the latter group concerning their relationship with women.
This is more bullshit from someone who makes things up from habit. Perhaps it is a family trait. Do you think in an age of conscription they could give people an out ?


Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:52 am
@BillRM,
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You got to be kidding me we should allow white power nuts to have their own units instead of trying to drive them out of the military!
I find it interesting that in your dementia there is no possibility of negatives applying to blacks. You dont think they are human do you ? This is also why you dont think homosexuals can do any wrong...they are not human in your mind. Your bigotry is like a stench...you think it smells like roses...but it smells like **** to normal people.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 12:56 am
@Ionus,
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problem with blacks fighting alongside blacks with black officers and whites doing the same until society gave equal rights to blacks at least.


Less see under that plan since the civil war blacks got the worst of the worst details/jobs time after time.

Not good having arm men that piss off all the time just to start with and hardly a great way to increase the likelihood that the black units will see their white fellow solders in trouble as people they should be willing to die for.

It is amazing that it work at all for as long as it did but it was hardly the ideal.

In fact a few times black units did break under the stress of mistreatment and rebel. I would need to google it and it getting late but if memory serve me correctly one black unit station in Texas after WW1 and a whole white town got into a real live battle and of course the blacks ended up being hung.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 01:01 am
@Ionus,
The arrangement was the best for the military and the society not that the military was driving the society unless you think that fire fights between black units and white civilians was to be prefer to having integration units.
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 01:01 am
@BillRM,
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Less see under that plan since the civil war blacks got the worst of the worst details/jobs time after time.
Bullshit. You mean like the Red ball express where blacks drove trucks and whites did the combat...how is it worse to labour rather than fight ?

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hardly a great way to increase the likelihood that the black units will see their white fellow solders in trouble as people they should be willing to die for.
Thats exactly what happened in the Civil War. Black and white units fought on both sides and had respect for each other.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 01:03 am
@Ionus,
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A general tried to tell everyone and he was shut up by dickheads like you. Now you


The good general told us that gays are bad bad to have in a unit however not one little detail at how gays cause them to stand around as people are murder.
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 01:06 am
@BillRM,
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The arrangement was the best for the military and the society not that the military was driving the society unless you think that fire fights between black units and white civilians was to be prefer to having integration units.
Do you mean like in Vietnam where the blacks heard about the major riots back home and there were mutinies and shootings within the same unit ? Yes, that was very helpful to unit cohesion. Obviously a case where the bigots like you took no responsibility for the consequences of their half baked feelings of grandeur and social engineering. How many unnecessary men died as a result of that ? Were any clowns like you killed or were you all safe at home saying "of course we are right..we are always right..even when proven wrong we are right".
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 01:07 am
@BillRM,
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not one little detail at how gays cause them to stand around as people are murder

You are hopeless, we have been over this like a half dozen times now....you don't comprehend because you don't want to, there is no other explanation.
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 01:09 am
@BillRM,
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The good general told us that gays are bad bad to have in a unit however not one little detail at how gays cause them to stand around as people are murder.
You understand nothing of the military yet here you are arguing blindly...he was staying within the limits of having signed the official secrets act which greatly restricted what he could say or bigots like you would have thrown him in gaol for telling the truth.
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