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Irishk
 
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Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2010 11:02 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I 'm an American; I don 't see nor feel any victory, TKO.
Americanism was Technically Knocked Out.


I agree, David. I shall henceforth be known as AmishK.

Smile
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2010 11:13 pm
@Irishk,
Irishk wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
I 'm an American; I don 't see nor feel any victory, TKO.
Americanism was Technically Knocked Out.


I agree, David. I shall henceforth be known as AmishK.

Smile
Well, that sounds like a good idea.
Great link; thank u.

Maybe I might become Amish,
except that someone might demand that I relinquish my defensive gun collection.





David
Irishk
 
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Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2010 11:18 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Irishk wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
I 'm an American; I don 't see nor feel any victory, TKO.
Americanism was Technically Knocked Out.


I agree, David. I shall henceforth be known as AmishK.

Smile
Well, that sounds like a good idea.
Great link; thank u.

Maybe I might become Amish,
except that someone might demand that I relinquish my defensive gun collection.


Nooooooooooo. We can start the NeoAmish movement. Freedom rules!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2010 11:22 pm
@Irishk,
Irishk wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Irishk wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
I 'm an American; I don 't see nor feel any victory, TKO.
Americanism was Technically Knocked Out.


I agree, David. I shall henceforth be known as AmishK.

Smile
Well, that sounds like a good idea.
Great link; thank u.

Maybe I might become Amish,
except that someone might demand that I relinquish my defensive gun collection.


Nooooooooooo. We can start the NeoAmish movement. Freedom rules!
Sounds good to ME!





David
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2010 11:24 pm
No computers in Amish land...

Cycloptichorn
Irishk
 
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Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2010 11:27 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

No computers in Amish land...

Cycloptichorn


That is a myth.
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fobvius
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 03:47 am
@dyslexia,
Quote:
I now support


Yes you may be the only one.

Health care is a brick.

Build.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 04:35 am
A number of states are now attempting to have the new health care laws revoked by the Supreme Court. I don't know what parts could be illegal. But with far right wing justices considering, we may be surprised.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 04:55 am
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
A number of states are now attempting to have the new health care laws revoked by the Supreme Court.
I don't know what parts could be illegal.
But with far right wing justices considering, we may be surprised.
That 's like saying "with superaccurate accountants considering, we may be surprized."





David
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 05:03 am
@OmSigDAVID,
No, it's like saying, these time bombs that we call justices follow their own internal concepts instead of the Constitution.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 07:09 am
@edgarblythe,
The idea is to read the Constitution as literally as u possibly can,
with no personal interpretation, the same as a contract that u enter into now.





David
parados
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 07:17 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Yes David? Perhaps you should read it "literally".

Quote:
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United State


Are you seriously going to argue that health care in no way provides for the general welfare?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 07:37 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

Yes David? Perhaps you should read it "literally".

Quote:
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United State


Are you seriously going to argue that health care in no way provides for the general welfare?
Yes; u fail to read it literally enuf!
Power is granted TO COLLECT TAXES.
That is not a grant of political power to do anything that is in the general welfare.
If that were the case, Congress coud have and long ago woud have
decided that it was in the general welfare to double its salaries @ year
and allow them to remain in office for as long as thay wish,
without re-election, anything to the contrary in the Constitution notwithstanding.

If your interpretation were correct,
then everything else in the Constitution woud have been a joke.





David
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 07:42 am
@OmSigDAVID,
it's all in the same sentence, it certainly reads that way

and how could it invalidate the rest, i sort of see the rest of the constitution as laying out the specifics of the statements made
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 07:47 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
it's all in the same sentence, it certainly reads that way

and how could it invalidate the rest, i sort of see the rest of the constitution as laying out the specifics of the statements made
The sentence does NOT say that Congress shall have power to do whatever it decides is in the general welfare.

Congress is granted the power to COLLECT TAXES.

That is the reason that we don 't have an oligarchy
and we still have elections and a limited government.





David
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 07:49 am
@OmSigDAVID,
if it doesn't say that, it's a very poorly written sentence

kind of makes my idea of ripping the thing up and starting again seem a worthwhile endeavor
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 07:55 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
if it doesn't say that, it's a very poorly written sentence

kind of makes my idea of ripping the thing up and starting again seem a worthwhile endeavor
That is because u don 't live in a freedom-loving country.
WE do.





David
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 08:01 am
@OmSigDAVID,
is suspect your wrong about that, (meaning my country) but it doesn't make you a bad person
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 08:03 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
is suspect your wrong about that, (meaning my country) but it doesn't make you a bad person
True; I am wonderful.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 08:05 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
is suspect your wrong about that, (meaning my country) but it doesn't make you a bad person
It has saddened me that in casual conversation with Canadians,
thay have admitted that freedom does not mean much in Canada,
emphasizing instead "good government."

I hope that u will tell me that I 'm rong, that this is incorrect.





David
 

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