@Jason Proudmoore,
Quote:Well, according to your religious belief, humans are unnatural, since we're created by the supernatural.
You are having enought rouble with your beliefs, dont worry about mine. But by your logic, the natural world was created by the supernatural therefore it is un-natural. Your logic is shockingly bad and painful to read.
Quote:Intuition is complex? Intuition is the simplest thing in the world
That tells me you understand very little if anything about the topic. Read something on the construction of the human brain and decision making therein...ANYTHING....
Quote:If you have any knowledge of ancient civilization, you also would know that the Hebrews were "flat-earth" believers,
Dont change what you said...you said the Bible and went to great pains to show what you thought were quotes that proved your point....will you admit the Bible does not promote a flat earth ? Man up, wimp.
Quote: "flat-earth" believers....along with many other societies.
Wrong. Most sailing societies knew the earth was round by being able to see the top of a ship before seeing the hull.
Quote:Let me allow the demigod Carl Sagan explain this better
You worship a man ? Of course you do....
Quote:What possess it the hand, the grain "mould" , or is it just a neurological disorder, like Parkinson's disease and others ?
JUST ? You arent trying to fluff up your point are you ? When science has a complete working model of the brain you can dismiss other theories with a wave of your hand. Ancient people had a very good reason to believe people were possessed...their normal functioning had been taked over...drugs and disease were attributed to a spritual world and this was a reasonable explanation for the time.
Quote:You're being scientific is like saying that baldness is a new hairstyle.
I think you show yourself to be very unscientific and quite limited in intellect.
Quote:What doesn't happen every time: the amputee growing a leg due to "divine" intervention or the person being cured of Alien Hand Syndrome by prayer?
Do you bother to read what you type ? Prayer can cure alien hand syndrome and it will help a person to deal with a missing leg. Show me what science has done to the natural world, to society..to fools like you who worship themselves and man ?
Quote:There is no goddamn penalty...it is just two parties disagreeing in an argument, which is the product of living in a democracy...if you told me that this argument took place 500 years ago, I would agree with you that there would be a price to pay...and you might know what the penalty would be.
Unbelievable dribble....science has not killed anyone ? It is just some friendly discussion ? The world is in better shape for having science and fools like you worship it ?
Quote:What do you suggest we do about the over population?
It is your point, you tell me...you said science saving lives is a good thing....
Quote:Kill as many to keep the natural balance?
I can think of a couple it would be worth while starting with.
Quote:Besides, it is religion that is against birth control and promotes the proliferation of humans on this Earth, which is a gift from God...opposed to secular rationalist who promote the use of birth control and other means to educate our society....but you didn't know this, right?
What a pathetic cop out. Dont you get embarrassed to be seen as this silly ? Science creates the problem and the best it can do to solve it is voluntary birth control ? And you blame religion for everyone living longer and breeding more...Arent you the clown who said religion has killed more people than any other cause ? Or was that one of your fellow worshippers ?
Quote:Yes, I worship the god of relativity, space and time, Albert Einstein... and Gaea.
You left out Carl Sagan and yourself...you clearly worship yourself...
Quote:Quote:Would this be the same science that is destroying nature and overpopulating the world ?
No, that would be religion...happy with the answer?
Your stupidity is undermining your side.
Quote:Quote:If you cant debate, get help or leave.
I have a quote very suitable to this statement of yours:
"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?" -- Dan Barker, Losing Faith in Faith
That is suitable ? Are you abusing steroids ? Got little man syndrome ? How does that apply to me, because I have never said I believe in the Bible to be litterally true, but we shouldnt let facts get in the way of a fool and his ranting.
Quote:No, I'm just listing the deeds done by secular humanists rationalist who use science to advance human knowledge and progression, and list all the things done by religion and other irrational thinking that are detrimental to acquiring this knowledge ...I just like to separate those two.
What you likee to do is to list the good points of science and the bad points of religion. Are you aware of any bad points to science ?
Quote:Really....I wonder if anyone will believe you....perhaps your mum ?
Quote:In fact, she does believe me.
Ah ! An evolutionary dead end.
Quote:Quote:Just as I thought. You think science is power and if you believe in science you will be powerful.
Well...look around you...look in front of you...better yet, do you have medical insurance?
You dont see any problems with science do you ? You see yourself as powerful but I see lots of problems with science and a little man trying to look big.
Quote:Quote:Look at your narcistic homosexual avatar...what sort of person has that degree of self worship ?
Do you find me attractive? I think you do. This is like the 5th time you have mentioned my my avatar picture, which has nothing to do with the argument at hand..are you spending too much time staring at it? I think I've found the reason for your lack of concentration...since you like my avatar so much, I'm going to keep it...how about that?
No I dont find you attractive ...I am just shocked that someone could have such a public display of masturbation and not be embarrassed for being seen as a narcistic homosexual.
Quote:Quote:Are you short ? Like about 5'2" ?
Since you're so adamant to know...you're very close...I'm 4'11'': measuring 4 feet vertically and 11 inches horizontally...now, do you want to ask me out now?
No, I leave you in your own hands in front of the mirror.
