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A classic example of the "loony left"

 
 
Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 05:49 am
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/03/08/sean-penn-wants-reporters-jailed-calling-chavez-dictator/

Quote:
First Amendment be damned . . . If Oscar-winning actor Sean Penn had his way, any journalist who called Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez a dictator would quickly find himself behind bars.

Penn, appearing on HBO's "Real Time with Bill Maher" on Friday, defended Chavez during a segment in which he detailed his work with the JP Haitian Relief Organization, which he co-founded.

"Every day, this elected leader is called a dictator here, and we just accept it, and accept it" said Penn, winner of two Best Actor Academy Awards. "And this is mainstream media, who should -- truly, there should be a bar by which one goes to prison for these kinds of lies."


So now he thinks that if you tell the truth you should go to prison?
I guess he has never heard of the First Amendment, or he thinks it shouldnt apply to those that disagree with him.

And yes, I know that there are those on the "radical right" that think the same way, so dont throw that up at me.


But then he hopes people die of cancer...

Quote:
"Do I hope that those people die screaming of rectal cancer? Yeah. You know, but I'm not going to spend a lot of energy on it."
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 06:16 am
@mysteryman,
He is a damn good actor but its sad how Penn keeps leaving the planet so often. In that respect hes merely the polar opposite of your libertarian types, no?
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 06:22 am
Are you now suggesting that "libertarian types" are nuts?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 06:26 am
@farmerman,
I 've never thought much of him; u can have him.
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 06:37 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Like the artof Salvatore Dali. You cant deny his talent, but you cant deny his wackiness at the same time.
Sean Penn will be remembered as one of our great actors. He immerses himself into his roles so much that hes been known to need counseling after hes finished.

On the other hand is Tom Cruise. I dont care for his acting and I find his "arrogant ignorance" with anything to do with medicine or science simply appaling. Theyll remember Tom Cruise in the same vein as Fatty Arbuckle.
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 06:37 am
@Brandon9000,
pretty much
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 06:39 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

pretty much

So, not only do you not believe in the Libertarian platform, you go the extra mile in asserting that they're nuts. Okay.
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 06:43 am
@Brandon9000,
NO, they often make sense in their pronouncements . BUT everyso often a good Liberatrian just wacks out and leaves the mother ship.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 06:47 am
@farmerman,
Thomas is one of the few libertarians who make sense.
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 06:59 am
Chavez is no dictator, he was officially elected in a presumably fixed election, much like GWB

Sean Penn is however a douchebag
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 07:01 am
So, Sean Penn is the poster boy for the left? By that token, we can take Pat Robertson as the poster boy for the right.

Pat Robertson calls for the assassination of Hugo Chavez.

Robertson again calls for the assassination of Chavez--"one day, one day, one day."

Robertson denies that he called for the assassination of Chavez.

Oh yeah . . . you can find loonies anywhere in the political spectrum.
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 07:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Thomas is one of the few libertarians who make sense.


Thomas makes sense? When was that? I missed that post . . .
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 07:06 am
@farmerman,
Maybe its his personality that I don 't like; by me,
he 's a jerk who needed counselling before he began.





David
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Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 07:18 am
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:
So now he thinks that if you tell the truth you should go to prison?

No, because he doesn't think calling Chavez a dictator is telling the truth.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 07:19 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
So, Sean Penn is the poster boy for the left?
By that token, we can take Pat Robertson as the poster boy for the right.
By definition, those on the right have the same philosophy as the Founding Generation.
Pat Robertson is a theocrat.
The Founders were NOT theocrats.
Q.E.D.: Pat Robertson is not on the right (insofar as his theocracy is concerned),
altho he may agree with some other rightist ideas.
I am a rightist, and I 'd have a lot of trouble voting for Pat Robertson for anything.





Setanta wrote:
Oh yeah . . . you can find loonies anywhere in the political spectrum.
That 's probably true.
Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 07:20 am
@Setanta,
You forgot the part where Robertson declared 9/11 God's punishment for America's acceptance of abortion, pornography, and gay sex.
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 07:27 am
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:

You forgot the part where Robertson declared 9/11 God's punishment for America's acceptance of abortion, pornography, and gay sex.


well, even pat get's it right once in awhile Twisted Evil
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 08:08 am
@Thomas,
Quote:
You forgot the part where Robertson declared 9/11 God's punishment for America's acceptance of abortion, pornography, and gay sex.


Never heard that one. I always figured 9/11 was punishment for Kosovo...
engineer
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 08:22 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

By definition, those on the right have the same philosophy as the Founding Generation.

Or at least that's what those on the right tell themselves.

So the original slam on Penn as a liberal lo0ny is warranted because 1) he is loony and 2) he has liberal credibility in that some liberals listen to what he says. That's what makes him different from a general loony like Tom Cruise who has no credibility. Robertson has a following on the right, so you have to own him as a conservative loony if you want to live on the right yourself.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 08:59 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
By definition, those on the right have the same philosophy as the Founding Generation.


Bullshit . . . not to put too fine a point on it. There had never been a (more or less) democratically elected republican government before in history. There had been and were republics, but their leadership was not democratically elected. There had been democratic (rather less than more) elected governments in the past, but they were not republics. There very nature of our government was a radical departure in governance.

There had never been an independent judiciary. Judges in the United States who are appointed rather than elected serve, essentially, quamdiu se bene geserit--so long as they are well conducted, so long as they violate no laws. Judges in the European monarchies served at the pleasure of the monarch, or at the pleasure of the constituted government in the case of Parliament. In many historical examples, arguably most, there was not even an established judiciary, with judgment in matters public and private rendered by an aristocratic or plutocratic elite. Our judiciary was a radical departure in jurisprudence.

I can multiply those examples again and again. But the point is that we have the form of governance that we enjoy (and we do enjoy it, when we're being honest) precisely because the founders eschewed conservatism and struck out on a new path.
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