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Was Hitler good for the World in any way?

 
 
steissd
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jul, 2004 12:50 pm
Well, I do not claim that this story is true. I am not even sure of whether Field Marshal Milch was a Mischlinge or not. I have heard such rumors regarding Heidrich, aeronautics engineer Messerschmidt and even Gauleiter of Poland Hans Frank... But maybe those are just rumors.
And my second phrase refers to the Israeli perception of the story: in Israel rabbis decide whether someone is a Jew or not...
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jul, 2004 12:59 pm
Does he know what he's talking about? wrote:
Love me, hate me, like it or not but the world would be a much better place today had Hitler won that war. We wouldn't have these problems we have today in this world if the Third Reich had it their way. Ultimately, the world would have been better off. I think that mostly everyone (minorities aside for obvious reasons) would agree with what I write but none would have the guts to support it. You have to be "politically correct" these days you know. Rick.

Oh I'm VERY eager to hear your arguments buff10825, VERY...
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buff10825
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jul, 2004 05:47 pm
As a matter of fact, I do know what I'm talking about.
First off, I must make it perfectly clear. I am not part of any hate organization (Neo-Nazi, KKK, WP or any other related group/gang), have never committed any hate crimes (and never plan on it) and I have never been arrested/charged with any crime whatsoever. Those groups are going nowhere and are nothing more than some guys trying to get attention largely through violence and small pep rallies. I'm not usually into the whole "online forums" if you will.....at least not on topics that require a lot of depth and thought. I'm just saying that you shouldn't believe everything you hear about the Nazis. The media has really twisted the truth and, for the most part, created blatant lies about Nazi Germany and the Third Reich. If you do some research for yourself and not just listen to or read the mainstream material about the subject, you will discover how great a nation Germany was under the National Socialist Movement and Hitler for that matter. The interest of the majority of the people should be more important than the interest of a few minorities. Even though the number of the minorities were in the millions, they were still a very small part of population (per capita). If the "Final Solution" were a success and the corrupt, dirty and vastly inferior minorities were done away with, the world would be much, much better off today. Crime rate would be lower, unemployment would be lower (if even existent), disease would be minimal, every type of crime imaginable would be DRASTICALLY lower....I could go on and on but I'm sure you don't even want to read this much. I'm not trying to offend anyone, I just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in. Sorry it I lost you a little in the typing...I'm not too good on putting things into writing. lol Have a good day. Rick.
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Hans Goring
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jul, 2004 06:04 pm
Essentially i do think he was good for this world, for many reasons though. first now we know the full capabilities of the human being and how far it will go to obtain his/her's ambitions in life. Secondly someone was going to come like that one day or another preferably whn technology was not so advanced, and also since hitler was such a screw up and could have done a lot worse to us. Also i would like to point out although there was a mass loss of life look at what we gaind in both the technological and medical fields. But still the man was horrible




-Hans
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Jer
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jul, 2004 06:25 pm
Just thought I'd watch...
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Hans Goring
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jul, 2004 08:56 pm
lol yep seems somone is pissed off here.







-Hans
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 04:02 am
Well I think that's the first time in my life I have ever heard someone say that the world would have been a better place if the "final solution" had been "a success" Shocked
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Maggie5554515
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 04:14 am
Uhm...
Let me give you a straight answer, baby: NO
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 04:26 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
Well I think that's the first time in my life I have ever heard someone say that the world would have been a better place if the "final solution" had been "a success" Shocked


Yeah, Boss, we coulda got rid of those inferior racial types, like that ol' Albert Einstein . . . that two-bit crook . . .
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 05:16 am
All I know is that if the Final Solution had been a success, this particular member of a "corrupt, dirty and vastly inferior" minority wouldn't be around to say that somebody is clearly out of their friggin' mind.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 05:20 am
I already knew you was corrupt, Boss . . . but you don't bathe either?
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 05:23 am
Bathing, it appears, is in the eye of the beholder.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 05:29 am
I rather suspect our "friend" here has other "races" in mind, but the stench of racial hatred smells pretty much the same from one continent to the next. It easily overpowers anyone who forgot to shower today.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 06:17 am
Other races indeed. I hate anyone who is anti Tour de France, oh, and the Dutch. Laughing
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ReX
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 06:39 am
buff10825, you DO know Hitler became mentally unstable near the end don't you? Little of his earlier 'genius' concerning field tactics was demonstrated and he took over WAY too many functions to ensure his dictatorship. After a while he was NOT doing a good job. Nevertheless, after a while, like any other empire (of course build on the blood of many innocents) it would have mellowed down and we would have made progress. And yes, I believe I have mentioned this before but I'm not sure: The Nazi's did do some good for the population (well, the 'pure' part of it anyway). Nationalism was 'in' and Socialism isn't really a bad thing (morally speaking). And yes, I also agree that what set the World Wars apart was that there was mass propoganda, on BOTH sides. There still is in eg. America.

Subjective conclusion
So we've come from: All germans and their allies are bad to all germans are bad to all nazis are bad to hilter and his staff are bad to hitler is bad. The further we go from the original point in history, the more objectively we can identify what happened/the evil. And discover things which I have read quoted a long time ago:
War does not determine who's right, it determines who's left.
You can't win a war anymore than an earthquake.

I seem to have broken SpellCheck, forgive my typos and whatever I mistyped. If you're bored, contact me with some linguistic corrections
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 06:40 am
I agree, cav.


Oh, and nearly forgot those, who cook sh*t, have dogs ... :wink:

(And the Dutch - well only especially re football.)
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 06:45 am
cavfancier wrote:
Other races indeed. I hate anyone who is anti Tour de France, oh, and the Dutch. Laughing


Them Dutch . . . what can one say . . .
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 06:48 am
ReX wrote:
I seem to have broken SpellCheck, forgive my typos and whatever I mistyped. If you're bored, contact me with some linguistic corrections



Well . . . alright . . . i'm just outraged that the French are going to drop the circonflex . . . the word is forĂȘt, not foret . . . well, thanks, i'm glad i got that off my chest . . .
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 07:02 am
I thought forets were those uppity rats people keep as pets.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2004 07:15 am
See . . . see the confusion that creates ? ! ? ! ?
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