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Sorry, this isnt going to work for me

 
 
Amigo
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2010 08:10 pm
@GuitarGod,
Gibson or Fender?
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Amigo
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2010 08:27 pm
I'M SUING

Wheres my Lawyer?
saintlewi
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2010 08:36 pm
@Robert Gentel,
This is the problem, RG. we did not want hundreds of new posts a day from people we dont know. bigger/more people does not necessarily mean better. we wanted some small, easy to use, corner of the world. we had dozens of posts on things that mattered to us, specifics, not big, sweeping generalities. which other android forum are you trying to buy (make money off of)? just a heads up, please, so i dont join that one and get a nasty surprise again.

every day i went to our forum, and there was ALWAYS dozens of new posts. even if, as you say, that means it was 'dying', to US, that meant it was what it was supposed to be: a small group of people that correspond to one another about an exclusive topic. this very thread has people saying that a2k is more than just our own topic; we can discuss anything. again, if we wanted that, we would have joined a2k or something similar from the start.

as for the trademarked term, well, not sure what to say about that. plenty of fan sites and such use terms that do not belong to the operator(s) of that site, but few times is it ever a lawsuit worthy event. if anything, it causes people to learn more about a product by people that rave about it and thus attracts more potential $$ for those that own the trademark. at worst, it meant the owners of said trademark cause it so the domain name changes to something not copyrighted. no biggie. (incidentally, if anybody from our forum wants to create such a new forum, please let us know; you would have plenty of traffic and our old commrodery again).

i think for many of us, it was the ease of use and being part of a smaller community that speaks exclusively of one particular topic, instead of having the whole world coming in and asking what we are talking about. i guess its a snooty thing to say, but we dont want it to grow in the leaps and bounds you are speaking of; a new user here and there, sure, but our small, basic group is what we wanted, had, and lost.

so, that is my 2 cents. sorry if i offended anyone or made anyone feel bad. not my intention AT ALL. i just wanted to express my frustrations and sadness at losing a great little place with people that seemed to be friendly and helpful. we fear change, lol. easy enough to see that...
Seed
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2010 08:55 pm
@saintlewi,
Quote:
great little place with people that seemed to be friendly and helpful. we fear change


Sans the bold word that's what you have here. Though I understand the bold word is what you miss the most.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2010 09:22 pm
@saintlewi,
Quote:
we fear change, lol. easy enough to see that...


Who would have thought early droid adopters would have a sense of sarcasm?

A2k is filled with little pockets of people that never go outside their little area. They seem to enjoy it and most of us stay away from them. Sure there's the occasional troll that feels they have to live under your bridge but that can happen anywhere.
roger
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2010 09:29 pm
@parados,
You got that right! Show me a page with nothing but crossword puzzle questions and I'm going for the ignore button. No rudeness intended, but that isn't what I log in for.
Seed
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2010 09:32 pm
@roger,
We all know you log in for me roger :-D
roger
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2010 09:40 pm
@Seed,
You just start posting about the Lovetts Colossal February Big. . . .
Seed
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2010 09:41 pm
@roger,
I think you're speaking french, but I can't be exactly sure...
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2010 09:52 pm
@saintlewi,
saintlewi wrote:
This is the problem, RG. we did not want hundreds of new posts a day from people we dont know.


I think it might be important to remember that this "we" may not comprise the body of the droid forum. People have different desires. Some of them may prefer more activity than more intimacy.

Quote:
bigger/more people does not necessarily mean better. we wanted some small, easy to use, corner of the world. we had dozens of posts on things that mattered to us, specifics, not big, sweeping generalities. which other android forum are you trying to buy (make money off of)? just a heads up, please, so i dont join that one and get a nasty surprise again.


Look, you've already told me to go to hell in an email, and now you want to portray my motivation as being financial without knowing anything about me. Let's cool off here a bit. I wonder if we can't simply want different things out of a forum without it having to be a personal thing.

Quote:
every day i went to our forum, and there was ALWAYS dozens of new posts. even if, as you say, that means it was 'dying', to US, that meant it was what it was supposed to be: a small group of people that correspond to one another about an exclusive topic. this very thread has people saying that a2k is more than just our own topic; we can discuss anything. again, if we wanted that, we would have joined a2k or something similar from the start.


Whatever the situation was with the old forum, the owner was selling it and moving on. I'm sorry that you liked what he built with it and don't like what I've done with it but I'm pretty sure that he intended to make money off the forum, and absent the ability to do so there isn't always a forum.

My own goals happen not to be to make a money of this forum. I'm more interested in making community (growing). I get that you don't like the changes, and while I think that may be an initial impression that will change maybe it won't and maybe that's that. It doesn't have to be drama, it's a forum selection. Someone has to pay the bills and do the work and while I'd like to make everyone happy I can't.

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i think for many of us, it was the ease of use and being part of a smaller community that speaks exclusively of one particular topic, instead of having the whole world coming in and asking what we are talking about. i guess its a snooty thing to say, but we dont want it to grow in the leaps and bounds you are speaking of; a new user here and there, sure, but our small, basic group is what we wanted, had, and lost.


No, I totally get it. That is why we are building custom groups here, that will better serve smaller niches. I personally want some of those enclaves myself. If you stick around long enough (it may be a while before they are ready) you'll be able to build whatever enclave you want.

Sometimes small, cozy and intimate is nice. I aim to build a place that can hold smaller microcosms and thereby get the best of both worlds.

But in the meantime, if you just go to the droid forum (basically where the old url redirects) you get a filtered view of able2know that just contains the droid topics, and this is essentially what the old forum was because droid hasn't been a big topic of discussion here (I'm a geek so I'd love for it to be).

If that doesn't cut it for you then I'll have to live with having failed to please you, and hopefully there's no hard feelings about that. Forums have attrition, site changes can cause some vocal unhappy users no matter how much of an improvement it is because many of them may not want change. And in this case I made several key mistakes (both social and technical) to help give you a rough landing. I'm sorry about that but it's nothing personal.

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so, that is my 2 cents. sorry if i offended anyone or made anyone feel bad. not my intention AT ALL. i just wanted to express my frustrations and sadness at losing a great little place with people that seemed to be friendly and helpful. we fear change, lol. easy enough to see that...


There's no guarantee that the forum would have continued to exist at all in the way it did. I found this forum for sale and I was the only one willing to pay for it. Many people passed up on this site before I got it in a relisting (i.e. nobody bought it the first round and when it was relisted I bought it) so it doesn't sound like there are many others who are willing to put their time and money where their mouth is.

I am, and I'm willing to work very hard at this because this is what I love to do. If my vision differs from yours and this isn't your cup of tea I'm not going to fault you for that. But at the same time I'd love for you to give us more of a chance. If not, well I wish you luck anyway wherever you go and I'm sorry if things didn't work out how you would have liked.
jstwondrng
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2010 12:12 pm
@GuitarGod,
Hey GuitarGod,

I agree! I was floored when I came to check out the forum the other day and discovered that the look and feel changed drastically... Sorry, but I want the old look and feel to return. Think I'm jumping ship myself and going to droidforums.net as well. See ya Chief, GuitarGod, YankeeDudL and others!

jstwondrng
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maporsche
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2010 12:15 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Where do you buy forums?
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cp22gear
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2010 01:03 pm
@GuitarGod,
ditto. tear.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2010 01:27 pm
@Amigo,
Amigo wrote:
I'M SUING

Wheres my Lawyer?

Trying to get some damn sleep.

You rang?
shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2010 02:11 pm
@GuitarGod,
do you use firefox?
there is a plug in called ABP. Blocks all ads . Period. Smile
shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2010 02:15 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:
No rudeness intended, but that isn't what I log in for.


and everything on this forum isnt what guitargod logs in for either.

( sorry mouse. Had to snip that quote. Not aimed at you though Wink )

I get his point and so what if all he wants to use a forum for is to discuss how to use his phone.
Has anyone used the G1? Yeah. It could have an entire forum too about what it can do, what it is capable of, where to find downloads etc..etc. In fact, there ARE places like that. And if you dont want to gab, just work on , add to and understand your phone.. why wade through a bunch of other posts to get to it?

I get it. I understand. I wonder if everyone else does...
shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2010 02:17 pm
damn.
I made a point before I read the rest of the responses.

Craven is now a money monger.
holy ****. I never knew. Rolling Eyes

aiyyeee.

Im going to go suck on my toes in the corner.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2010 02:22 pm
@shewolfnm,
I understand. It's possible for me to ignore the puzzle people or thumb the posts. It's not at all practical for a droid to give the thumb to every non-droid post.

That's rat, by the way. R-A-T. Not mouse.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2010 02:32 pm
@roger,
I think we also should annex an iphone forum to see how they interact with
the droids. Wouldn't that be nice for us innocent bystanders?
roger
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2010 03:02 pm
@CalamityJane,
My phone is white. What else you want to know?
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