Lash
 
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Tue 12 Oct, 2010 03:04 pm
(eyeing Squinney warily---plans the Bunnies' first crusade)
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hingehead
 
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Tue 12 Oct, 2010 03:16 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
I am shocked that so many Christians think that non-Christians have no genuine lovingkindness or internal moral code- and that seemingly this moderator (and how many other Christians?) live decent lives fueled by no other emotion than fear of retribution from an angry god.


This shocks me too. That sort of mentality is the root of the persecution of 'otherness'. It kind of explains why we've had so many 'my imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend' wars.

But I wonder if in fact it's the religion at fault or the types of people attracted to it? I ponder that. It seemed to me at one point that many reformed alcoholics and drug abusers that I crossed paths with were attracted to 'revivalist' churches. And Buddhism is attractive to certain kinds of westerners. And remember Hare Krishna's? Orange people? Moonies?

“It's a Buddhist meditation technique. The monks used it before going into battle.”

I think Jesusbunnyhead is the earthly manisfestation of the Flying Spaghetti Monster - now trying to find a third for a 'trinity'.
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edgarblythe
 
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Tue 12 Oct, 2010 03:17 pm
@Lash,
I think that when we run from labels, instead of doing honor to the labels, we do ourselves a disservice. An honest, well lived life, as an atheist, seems better to me than ducking when somebody looks our way.
Lash
 
  1  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 03:43 pm
@edgarblythe,
I used to feel the same way - not wanting to give up useful words because of what slime society heaped on them... Thank you. Here's to a well-lived life under any label!
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Intrepid
 
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Tue 12 Oct, 2010 04:23 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

You failed to understand why i'm disgusted. It's not about how people behave, it's about how they say they should behave, as compared to how they actually behave. It's a question of hypocrisy.



That, I agree with. If they talk the talk, they have to walk the walk.
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spendius
 
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Tue 12 Oct, 2010 04:42 pm
President Obama has just said that "Our prayers and thoughts are with the miners and their families."

He speaks for me but he can hardly be speaking for those of our number who scoff at prayer. It's as if they do not belong in the category "Our". And President Obama is a leftie.

Thus those who scoff at prayer must be extreme lefties. And on whose behalf he was obviously not speaking.
reasoning logic
 
  2  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 04:52 pm
@Setanta,
I think that both you and Intrepid make a valid point. It seems that neuroscience and anthropology may agree with christians that there needs to be a moral code but christains and other religions think that they have the absolute correct answer and science would like to leave room for improvements as they realise that they can have some things wrong, as we understand things better we will do better.
I can only hope that a christian would value me as maybe the least among them and at least consider what I share with them and not look the other way.

Anthropology and Neurology http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNSe4Ff57n4&feature=player_embedded

Neuroscience Neurophilosophy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3YOIImOoYM
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 05:12 pm
@spendius,
What Obama said is meaningless platitudes. Nobody hears his prayers, except himself.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 05:14 pm
@reasoning logic,
rl, Religion's morals codes are useless; how many people of religion do you know that have lived by any moral code? Most of the wars of this world are based on religion. Doesn't that even provide you with a clue?
reasoning logic
 
  2  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 05:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I am trying to relay to people of faith and if I had used words like you used I do not think I would have a chance.
I may not have a chance with the words that I used but I do have hope that they do care and will share their view points in a discussion.

Did you watch the videos that I shared?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 05:33 pm
@reasoning logic,
rl wrote:
Quote:
I may not have a chance with the words that I used but I do have hope that they do care and will share their view points in a discussion.


FYI, there is an ample supply of their "view points" concerning their religious beliefs. That's how christianity spread throughout this planet.

rl wrote:
Quote:
Did you watch the videos that I shared?


No, I have not, but will scroll back to look for it.
reasoning logic
 
  2  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 05:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Your Quote:
FYI, there is an ample supply of their "view points" concerning their religious beliefs. That's how christianity spread throughout this planet.

You are correct! Now I am trying to spread my view points across the planet to them.
failures art
 
  2  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 05:43 pm
@spendius,
Prayers and thoughts, spendi. Not simply prayers. Certainly those who do not pray offer concern and hope for the well being of those in trouble. They care no less than those who pray.

A
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reasoning logic
 
  1  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 05:45 pm
@spendius,
Do you pray Spendius?
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spendius
 
  1  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 05:46 pm
@failures art,
"And". Not "Or". "And".
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littlek
 
  1  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 05:56 pm
Off to watch Glee. My guess is they'll move on from last week without any mention of religion.....
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 05:59 pm
@reasoning logic,
You ain't got a prayer in a hand basket.
reasoning logic
 
  2  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 06:04 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I can not say logically that you are wrong!
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wmwcjr
 
  1  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 06:27 pm
@spendius,
Some atheists are political conservatives or right-wingers. Ayn Rand immediately comes to mind. And I'm sure there are atheists who have no use for politics.
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Tue 12 Oct, 2010 06:41 pm
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:

Some atheists are political conservatives or right-wingers. Ayn Rand immediately comes to mind. And I'm sure there are atheists who have no use for politics.


Some people try to make this a liberal versus conservative topic. They are dead wrong. Many conservatives are atheists. My favorite person from the 20th Century was Phillip Wylie. He was too conservative for me at times.

My late brother was a conservative atheist.
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