spendius
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 12:19 pm
@rosborne979,
Quote:
What they haven't defined yet is what proportion of the warming is due to human activity and what proportion is purely natural.


Which is utterly meaningless and useless because the one might be 0.01% and the other 99.99% or the other way round if that is preferred by the fancy.

And ros purports to represent science. Sheesh!!
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spendius
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 12:27 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Quote:
Dawkins and his fanboys believe it's true to say the eye has been wired "back to front".


Have you missed the sheer idiocy of blurting out such a ridiculous remark Romeo? That the thrice wed moron thinks he might "improve" on evolution says all that needs to be said about him.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 12:28 pm
Quote:
Rosborne said: Actually the vast majority of scientists (around 90%) agree that global warming is happening and that human activity is contributing to the already occurring natural process.
What they haven't defined yet is what proportion of the warming is due to human activity and what proportion is purely natural.

All the muck being pumped into the atmosphere can't be doing the planet much good..Wink

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/stink.jpg
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spendius
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 12:31 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
Most people question the accuracy of science, when it collides with their religious dogma.


And many people question the value of religious belief when it collides with their dick-work.

It looks from recent posts that the dusty collection of 78s is being played over again.
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neologist
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 12:34 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
I note that Neo is completely ignoring the criticism that his suterstitious "truth" has no underpinning of evidence. The dog and pony show in the search for truth is the blind faith assertions of the god botherers.
I am aware of the epistemological shortcomings of my faith. I do not believe without scrutiny, a trait not shared by all on a2k.
rosborne979
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 12:36 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
All the muck being pumped into the atmosphere can't be doing the planet much good..Wink
I think we all agree on that.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 12:36 pm
Speaking of "Truth", athists beleive it's true to say "there's no god".
Yet they've got absolutely zilch evidence to support that claim..Smile
Olivier5
 
  2  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 12:43 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
Your post raises issues of consequence. Unfortunately I cannot properly address it because I would need to say things which are not to be said to an audience such as there is here.

Really?

Most posters have you on ignore. What do you care if the self-righteous cackle for a minute or two?

There's always the PM option.
spendius
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 12:45 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
. the very fact that scientific theories and hypotheses are falsifiable, that they are subject to review for reliability, separates them entirely and irrevocably from religious superstition, which brooks no questions, and asserts "truth" without reference to any evidence, never mind testable evidence.


How can it when the evidence of the evolutionary success of a belief is put on Ignore despite being in Setanta's face everywhere he looks and in every advantage he has which pre-Christians did not have?

Making foolish statements when the contradictory evidence is on Ignore is trolling big-time. The pure form of it.
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rosborne979
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 12:47 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
Speaking of "Truth", athists beleive it's true to say "there's no god".
I don't know any atheists who say that. You should stop speaking for atheists because I don't think you know any, and I'm sure you don't understand them.
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
Yet they've got absolutely zilch evidence to support that claim..Smile
They don't make that claim. They don't waste their time claiming that bugglywumps and boogliedoos don't exist either. And for the same reason.
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 12:58 pm
@rosborne979,
Quote:
What they haven't defined yet is what proportion of the warming is due to human activity and what proportion is purely natural.

Not really. Climate change appears entirely due to human causes. Other hypotheses just don't float. They are being tabled for the sole purpose of confusing the American public.
Romeo Fabulini
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 01:06 pm
Quote:
Romeo said: Speaking of "Truth", athists beleive it's true to say "there's no god".
Rosborne said: I don't know any atheists who say that.

Wiki seems clear enough, or have they got it wrong?-

WIKI- "Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.
Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief that any deities exist"
Romeo Fabulini
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 01:11 pm
Quote:
Olivier said: Climate change appears entirely due to human causes. Other hypotheses just don't float. They are being tabled for the sole purpose of confusing the American public.

Yes, the world's car manufacturers and the industrialists are never gonna admit they're poisoning the planet, and the gutless politicians are keeping quiet so's not to lose votes by clamping down on it
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rosborne979
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 01:34 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Quote:
What they haven't defined yet is what proportion of the warming is due to human activity and what proportion is purely natural.

Not really. Climate change appears entirely due to human causes.

The climate has been changing ever since this planet formed and it will always change. More specifically, the climate has been warming and cooling in a steady cycle for hundreds of thousands of years. This is well documented. We are currently in one of those warming trends, which started well before humanity could do anything more than make a campfire.

Human activity is contributing to climate change, of that there can be little doubt. Just how much it's contributing is not yet clear.
rosborne979
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 01:36 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
WIKI- "Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.

When you suppose to speak for all atheists, then I think you need to take the definition in the broadest sense, which is simply that they don't believe in God(s) (which you provided from WIKI above).
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Setanta
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 02:26 pm
@neologist,
"Scrutiny?" That's rich.
0 Replies
 
Olivier5
 
  2  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 02:31 pm
@rosborne979,
Quote:
The climate has been changing ever since this planet formed and it will always change.

Climate has been naturally changing at very slow speed. The changes that are occurring now are different in that they take place very fast, and for this reason they are most probably entirely due to humans. There is no alternative explanation that I know of.
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spendius
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 02:40 pm
@Olivier5,
Quote:
There's always the PM option.


Not for me Olivier.
Setanta
 
  0  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 02:42 pm
The trolls are trashing the thread again, lead by Neo.
Olivier5
 
  1  
Tue 25 Mar, 2014 02:56 pm
@spendius,
You're afraid of scaring me off?
 

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