Romeo Fabulini
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 12:04 pm
Quote:
From article quote: "a plurality of Americans (48%) believe religious athletes will be rewarded with divine success and health by virtue of their religiosity"

Yay..Smile
Ben Cross in Chariots of Fire sat sulking after being beaten in a race for the first time ever by a few feet.
Then up comes coach Ian Holm and says "I can give you another two yards"..
The rest is history, under Holms expert coaching, Cross goes on to win an Olympic gold.
Likewise Jesus is the coach we all need to be WINNERS!
"Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize" (1 Cor 9:24)
"If God is for us, who can be against us?" (Romans 8:31)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub1/another-yard.jpg
reasoning logic
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 12:08 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Quote:
Then up comes coach Ian Holm and says "I can give you another two yards"..


It is amazing what you can accomplish when someone gives you steroids.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 12:12 pm
Jesus is a winner like he said- "I've beaten the world" (John 16:33)
So it follows that Christians are winners too- "Who is it that beats the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God" (1 John 5:5)

2000 years in the yellow jersey..Smile
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/team-jesus.jpg~original
Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 12:33 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Jesus is a winner like he said- "I've beaten the world" (John 16:33)
So it follows that Christians are winners too- "Who is it that beats the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God" (1 John 5:5)

2000 years in the yellow jersey..Smile
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/team-jesus.jpg~original


Except that Jesus probably looked more like one of these guys...than that guy on the bike:


http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/frankapisa/marx-brothers_zps505ab991.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/frankapisa/stooges_zps526ba137.jpg



coldjoint
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 12:36 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Now looks count? Are you racist? This from someone who looks like Santa who ran out of rogaine?
neologist
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 12:40 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
Was it not the Jesus believers who started the crusades and dropped the only nuclear bombs in recorded history?
Was that the fault of Jesus or of those who hijacked his name? Straw men sound so convincing until one comes along with a spark.
wmwcjr
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 12:48 pm
@coldjoint,
You misunderstand. Frank was simply pointing out (correctly) that Jesus was a Jew. It's a matter of historical accuracy. Unless I'm mistaken, the Marx brothers and the Three Stooges were all Jewish. That's why Frank posted pictures of them. I wish I could remember the book, chapter, and verse; but I have read scripture that says Jesus' physical appearance was unremarkable.

People of different ethnic backgrounds try to claim Jesus as one of their own, as far as His physical appearance is concerned (which makes no difference, anyway). He certainly was not the blue-eyed Aryan that has been represented in popular artistic depictions.

Besides, I think Frank looks just fine. Smile
Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 12:52 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Now looks count? Are you racist? This from someone who looks like Santa who ran out of rogaine?


Actually, that photo of me is 7 - 8 years old. I look much, much older now...and the hairline is much further back.

But I have the balls to post my real name...and a photo...which is a hell of a lot more than you do.

But in answer to your question...no, I am not a racist. Not at all.
reasoning logic
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 12:52 pm
@neologist,
Quote:
Was that the fault of Jesus or of those who hijacked his name? Straw men sound so convincing until one comes along with a spark.


I wouldn't blame anyone other than those who did it but I bet they thought that they knew Jesus.

Jesus believers come in all shades and colors and should not be stereotyped.

Jesus didn't tap.

coldjoint
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 12:54 pm
@Frank Apisa,
My real name is available at my old forum. And address and phone number. And don't worry about my balls Frank. I might start to think you are a gay racist. Shocked
Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 12:55 pm
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:

You misunderstand. Frank was simply pointing out (correctly) that Jesus was a Jew. It's a matter of historical accuracy. Unless I'm mistaken, the Marx brothers and the Three Stooges were all Jewish. That's why Frank posted pictures of them. I wish I could remember the book, chapter, and verse; but I have read scripture that says Jesus' physical appearance was unremarkable.

People of different ethnic backgrounds try to claim Jesus as one of their own, as far as His physical appearance is concerned (which makes no difference, anyway). He certainly was not the blue-eyed Aryan that has been represented in popular artistic depictions.

Besides, I think Frank looks just fine. Smile


Thank you, wmwcjr.

At 77, it is getting harder and harder to look in the mirror and see what age can do. But yes, the point of my posting was not racism...but an attempt to say that the portrayal of Jesus that Romeo usually uses...is Aryan...and probably less close to the truth than the photos I submitted.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 12:57 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

My real name is available at my old forum. And don't worry about my balls Frank. I might start to think you are a gay racist. Shocked


THIS, is not your old forum, coldjoint...this is this forum. And like I said, I have the balls to use my real name...and post a picture of myself...which you apparently do not.

Since it seems to matter to you: I am neither a racist...nor am I gay.
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panzade
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 12:58 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
But only if they're christians.

Of course
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 01:03 pm
Quote:
But yes, the point of my posting was not racism..


Does everyone see how worried everyone is to be called a racist? It is ******* ridiculous. It drains the strength from every argument with its manipulative nature, and social clubbing purpose to take away from the facts surrounding an event.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 01:03 pm
Speaking of Jesus's appearance, there's nothing in the Bible that specifically describes his looks, and it's reasonable to assume there was nothing about him that made him stand out from the crowd.
For example Isaiah prophesied that when Jesus arrived he wouldn't be much to look at -"He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him" (Isaiah 53:2)

And when he began preaching, even his own family thought he'd gone nutty-
"When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind" (Mark 3:21)
And even the people of Nazareth went ballistic-" and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him off the cliff" (Luke 4:29)

Incidentally other Biblical figures were just ordinary-looking too, not a bit like Charlton Heston.
For example Paul was nothing to write home about -
"For his letters, say they, are weighty and powerful, but his appearance is unimpressive, and he speaks poorly" (2 Corinthians 10:10)

And Moses admitted to being unable to think on his feet in the hope that God wouldn't send him to slap Pharoah around-
"O Lord, I have never been eloquent, i'm slow of speech and tongue." (Exodus 4:10)

And Jonah was so scared he refused pointblank to be a prophet and jumped on a ship to escape, bad call -
"Jonah ran away from the Lord and headed for Tarshish." (Jonah 1:3)

And young Jeremiah tried to talk his way out of the job -
"Lord i'm no good at speaking, i'm too young and people won't take me seriously" (Jeremiah 1:6)

And Jesus's young cousin John was a scruffy world-rejecter living in the wilderness living off the land and wearing rough camel-skin clothes, sometimes going in town to yell insults at the snooty priests and corrupt rulers. Jesus's verdict on him?-
"John is the greatest man ever to be born" (Matt 11:11)

John vs Herod and Salome
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/johnvHerodC_zpsf997ccff.gif~original
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 02:39 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Indeedy! Not only didn't he stand out in any crowd, but nobody else wrote about his miracles while he was alive. How can that be?

Who was there to observe and record that incident where he turned that woman into a pile of salt?
neologist
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 02:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
What would you expect, considering who is in charge of world affairs?
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neologist
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 02:47 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
Jesus believers come in all shades and colors and should not be stereotyped
Then why do you do it?
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neologist
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 02:47 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
Jesus believers come in all shades and colors and should not be stereotyped
Then why do you do it?
reasoning logic
 
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Sat 1 Feb, 2014 03:48 pm
@neologist,
Quote:
Then why do you do it?


The only thing that I stereotype is their belief in things that can not be shown."Jesus" or things that have little credibility of having ever existed.
The same way that I would stereotype people with other differences but according to their difference. That is what language allows us to do "Name things, "Create words for things that are the same.
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