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It was obviously an atheist-contrived "sting" to make christians look bad so they could run to the newspapers squawking "MWAAAH them nasty christians wouldn't let us help them"
I mean, they could have simply offered to quietly volunteer without shouting "We're Atheists!"

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

Atheist Volunteers Snubbed By Soup Kitchen
Huffington Post article

A director of a South Carolina soup kitchen told a group of atheists that she would rather “resign” than have them volunteer at her organization.

Upstate Atheists, a Spartanburg, S.C., group that focuses on helping people in need, recently offered to help out at the Spartanburg Soup Kitchen, but their gesture was rebuffed by the Christian nonprofit, even though they had agreed to not wear their T-shirts or advertise where they were from, the Spartanburg Herald-Journal reported.

"This is a ministry to serve God,” Lou Landrum, executive director of the soup kitchen, told the nonprofit. "We stand on the principles of God. Do they (atheists) think that our guests are so ignorant that they don't know what an atheist is? Why are they targeting us? They don't give any money. I wouldn't want their money."

While the group was upset about not being able to contribute to the organization, they weren’t deterred.

The volunteers decided to, instead, dole out 300 care packages on Saturday to the homeless –- right across the street from the nonprofit that rejected them. Through an online fundraiser, Upstate Atheists was able to collect $2,000 to buy socks, gloves, deodorant, toothpaste and antiseptic wipes and other items, according to the Christian Post.

This was just one of a number of community service projects the group has spearheaded on its own.

Upstate Atheists has sponsored holiday gifts for foster children, adopted a highway and assisted with park clean ups, among other initiatives, according to the group.

The group is currently working on collecting money to obtain its 501c3 status to help with its fundraising efforts.

As the group’s story has spread, so has the overwhelming amount of support its getting from both religious and non-religious people.

“It’s so sad when a "Christian" group turns you away for your beliefs. We are all in this humanity thing together, whether you believe in God or not,” one supporter wrote on the organization’s Facebook page. “I wouldn’t want to be associated with a group like that anyway, so Kudos to your group for helping the less fortunate.”

While the group welcomes the encouragement, it’s also asking supporters to remain focused on the central mission.

"I was upset with the hateful remarks. It certainly wasn't necessary," Eve Brannon, president of Upstate Atheists, told the Christian Post. "However, it turned out well. Because we were turned away, we ended up being able to give the homeless care packages that they needed. The people in need are the ones who truly matter."

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@Thomas,

Setanta wrote--

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Ever notice how the biggest trolls here so frequently accuse others of that?

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

It was obviously an atheist-contrived "sting" to make christians look bad so they could run to the newspapers squawking "MWAAAH them nasty christians wouldn't let us help them"
I mean, they could have simply offered to quietly volunteer without shouting "We're Atheists!"

Christians do not need help in that department, Romeo.

The "Christian" thing to do would have been to accept the offer. I suspect that is what Jesus would have done. But Christians often go counter to what Jesus might have done.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

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It was obviously an atheist-contrived "sting" to make christians look bad so they could run to the newspapers squawking "MWAAAH them nasty christians wouldn't let us help them"

Possibly contrived by the newspapers which are in favour of secularisation for business reasons.

What the homeless need are homes.

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Frank Apisa said:

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The "Christian" thing to do would have been to accept the offer

Spendius said:

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[re sting]- Possibly contrived by the newspapers which are in favour of secularisation for business reasons

1- There are christians and there are christians, some might have cheerfully accepted the atheists offer of help, but some christian hardasses obviously preferred running with these verses-
"Don't yoke yourself with unbelievers, for what do light and darkness have in common?" (2 Cor 6:14)
"Don't let unbelievers into your house" (2 John 1:10 KJV)
"Bad company corrupts good character" (1 Cor 15:33)
Personally i've never shunned an atheist, but i've shunned plenty of dumbass so-called "christians".. Smile

2- By attacking Christianity, atheists are smoothing the way for Islam to flourish, and if ever Sharia Law becomes part of Western culture it's going to give atheists a very hard time, and they along with gays, lesbians, trannies, drunks, junkies, prostitutes, pinkos and lefties etc will be pleading "MWAAAH! please bring back Christianity!"

In fact posters like this are already going up in some muslim areas of British cities, together with 'Muslim Patrols' who go out hassling non-muslims in the areas-

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sharia-sticker.jpg

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@Romeo Fabulini,

You've said it Romeo. They don't know what they are promoting and they are trying to persuade the rest of us to leap into the dark with them. Thankfully only a derisory number of people buy into it despite them having arguments that are materially unassailable and really quite tempting.

I'm an atheist but I wouldn't dream of promoting atheism. There are more Catholic atheists than there are Atheist atheists.

If the Sharia lot ban all those things it is no wonder they are fanatical. They must be bent back like a stiff spring.

And one might assume from the bottom left warning that high heel shoes and cute panties and other forms of lingerie are out due to being associated with prostitution. Even showing a leg.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

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By attacking Christianity, atheists are smoothing the way for Islam to flourish

This doesn't make any sense at all. If that sign is even really put up by Muslims (which I highly doubt), it could easily be a Christian.

The people in the US trying to stamp out homosexuality and pornography aren't Muslims. They are Christians. When you hear about about people being beaten (or killed) for some moral issue in the US, you can bet that the perpetrator is a Christian.

I would hope that Atheists would be opposed to religious extremism. Christians are still committing murder to try to force other to follow their own view of morality.

Extremism is the problem, not any specific religion. I have nothing against Christians or Muslims or Buddhists who are willing to practice their religion without this brand of extremists.

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Please don't feed the troll, Max. They've already trashed this thread repeatedly in the last several days.

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@Setanta,

Yeah, you are right.

It is just sad to me that someone who claims to be a Christian can be so hateful.

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@maxdancona,

Christians are not against boozing, gambling, music and concerts and they are only half-heartedly against the other two. If at all.

You should not confuse Christians with people who loudly claim to be Christians.

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Can someone explain to me why atheists on this thread get their knickers knotted so easily by a few punk self professed Christians?

I mean, if you're brave enough to face a world with no God or after-life, shouldn't you be able to handle a dissenting opinion; no matter how rudely it's posted?

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@panzade,

It's not the rudeness, it's the lack of intelligent content and the fact that it's consistently off-topic. Here's the opening post:

littlek wrote:

I know there are other threads about atheism, but they tend to be focused somewhat specifically to some argument or subtopic. I'd like this thread to be open for constructive conversation, sharing of ideas and resources, etc.

One big issue that some friends and I feel is weird is that religious people seem to feel that we are persecuting them. I can't see how that could be given that we represent such a small minority of any population. If anything, it is we who are persecuted.

This thread was never intended to be a smackdown with the god-botherers.

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I would not get so upset if they politely made their point, got an answer and went about their business. But they post hundreds of times to make a single argument and become obsessive when you (naturally) disagree.

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@panzade,

panzade wrote:

... to face a world with no God

That is where the problem lies. The world is not without God (intelligent design, and hence intelligence) and our own intelligence is an example of this. Not to speak that we don't even know what it is, how we acquire it by birth and how we loose it after death.
The 'scientific' explanations that the big bang by means of casino techniques made somehow our intelligence are fables for idiots ... as the key word here is 'somehow'.
Besides you cannot exist (in the physical and non-physical world) by being non-something (non-theist (atheist) for example). Those who present themselves as being atheists have some special morality that cannot be shown openly to society (like for example believing in greed without limits - money changers; believing in lies and misrepresentation of the things; believing in power without scruples – human health and human life is nothing and the promotion in the career is everything; believing in the misuse with power and in the unlimited opportunities of the psychotronics, having the mania to deliver justice 'above the law' (especially the ex-policemen and the military criminals), etc.) and that is why they present themselves as atheists. It is very convenient.

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@Herald,

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it's the lack of intelligent content and the fact that it's consistently off-topic

Another chalk mark on set's column I believe.

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@panzade,

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I mean, if you're brave enough to face a world with no God or after-life,

What's so brave about facing a world with no god or after life? The Biblical god is arguably the most disagreeable character in all fiction, and an afterlife of eternal torture in the Christian hell is no walk in the park either. As far as I can see, no bravery is necessary for facing a world without either.

panzade wrote:

shouldn't you be able to handle a dissenting opinion; no matter how rudely it's posted?

Bravery has nothing to do with it. Trolls don't frighten us; they annoy us and waste our time --- whether we're atheists or not.

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@Setanta,

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I'd like this thread to be open for constructive conversation, sharing of ideas and resources, etc.

And in all its pages there was never a better subject for constructive conversation, sharing of ideas and resources, etc, than Emily Bronte's beautiful poem No Coward Soul Is Mine.

And no takers.

The simplest question being what atheist can write like that?

It's bullshit isn't it? A good shagging would soon have straightened Em. out I should have thought.

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Spendius wrote:

A good shagging would soon have straightened Em. out I should have thought.

Vain are the thousand creeds
That move men's hearts, unutterably vain,
Worthless as withered weeds
Or idlest froth amid the boundless main

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@Thomas,

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The Biblical god is arguably the most disagreeable character in all fiction

I might argue that Joffrey shades him....

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