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@Setanta,

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There is absolutely no historical evidence for your boy Jesus. I don't care one way or the other, personally--the boy means nothing to me.

It self-evidently means a great deal to Setanta personally. His use of the word "boy" speaks volumes. As do other disparaging terms he uses.

No historian would employ such terms. Any historian with confidence would not use terms such as "nut job", "liar" and "fanatic" to describe people who disagree with him.

Every moment of Setanta's day is conditioned by the Christian project. He cannot escape it.

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"nut job", "liar" and "fanatic" to describe people who disagree with him.

And yet they push the fantasy like Teapartiers at a convention.

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@edgarblythe,

If that is a reference to me, i generally only use such terms when the party in question happens to be fanatical, and is pushing their belief. I don't believe those things, nor do i insist that people stop believing what they choose to believe--i do not, however, intend to ignore the ranting of the god squad when they push their beliefs.

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@edgarblythe,

I know nothing about Teapartiers ed?

Except those in country houses after the hunt and the lady hunters are all in a muck sweat after two hours in the frosty air jossing and jigging and whipping.

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@Setanta,

No coffee for you today. Go sit in the corner.

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@cicerone imposter,

No coffee for you, either.

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@neologist,

neologist wrote:

All right, All right. Order amongst your chaos.Because without order at some point we would not have much to talk about.

Big difference. For instance, nobody designs snowflakes, and yet they clearly show order. Setanta is not just being pedantic here.

On a stylistic note, your theatrical indignation with people who call you out on your skewed metaphors is getting old.

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Setanta said:

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There is absolutely no historical evidence for your boy Jesus

For centuries atheists used to say "Nazareth never even existed in Jesus's time", but they were left red-faced and pouting when ruins of the old Nazareth were found. Who do they think lived there, Mary Poppins?.. Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/nazareth-digB.gif~original

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Setanta said:

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There is absolutely no historical evidence for your boy Jesus

For centuries atheists used to say "Nazareth never even existed in Jesus's time", but they were left red-faced and pouting when ruins of the old Nazareth were found. Who do they think lived there, Mary Poppins?..

You gotta be kidding here, right???

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Apart from the evidence of ancient Nazareth, scientists are also amazed at the incredible complexity of DNA.. Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/dna-god.jpg

Jesus said-"And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered" (Matt 10:30)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/CMSF/jedward.jpg

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Here we go again; people making assumptions about where jesus lived when there is no way to prove it! Do they have DNA evidence or just guesses and $$$?

Follow the money.

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Cicerone said:

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Follow the money

Yeehaw, you got it baby.. Smile

Jesus has been way out in front for 2000 years, he's a natural born winner and we become winners too by following him.. Smile

Jesus said - "I've beaten the world" (John 16:33)
"Who is it that beats the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God" (1 John 5:5)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/team-jesus.jpg~original

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@Thomas,

Thomas wrote:

neologist wrote:
All right, All right. Order amongst your chaos.Because without order at some point we would not have much to talk about.
Big difference. For instance, nobody designs snowflakes, and yet they clearly show order. Setanta is not just being pedantic here.

On a stylistic note, your theatrical indignation with people who call you out on your skewed metaphors is getting old.

Sorry if I have offended your intellectual sensibilities.

You are correct that the word design implies designer. I suppose that is evidence of my confirmation bias. However that was not the intent of my assertion which should have been. "Evidence of order, though not sufficient, is necessary to presume design."

Perhaps I should not have attempted to equate music appreciation with faith. Apparently it deflected my intent to focus on the role of anecdotal observation. In the end, that is all I have to offer. I don't see it as lacking authenticity.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Here we go again; people making assumptions about where jesus lived when there is no way to prove it! Do they have DNA evidence or just guesses and $$$?

Are you saying the only way we know Caesar existed is by the DNA in our Caesar Salad?

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

If that is a reference to me, i generally only use such terms when the party in question happens to be fanatical, and is pushing their belief. I don't believe those things, nor do i insist that people stop believing what they choose to believe--i do not, however, intend to ignore the ranting of the god squad when they push their beliefs.

I was really playing off of spendie's "rebuttal" to you.

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@edgarblythe,

Oh, OK . . . i don't read posts by that silly, old drunken spinster. But i did see some of the choice descriptions i used for one bible-thumper just yesterday.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

You're just making **** up again. Provide the evidence that "for centuries atheists used to say 'Nazareth never even existed in Jesus's [sic] time,'" or be called out as a liar constructing a weak and fairly obvious straw man fallacy.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c8kgH6cwcno/UGtaMTssexI/AAAAAAAAAGc/lxTlLnNPmKc/s320/Strawman-light.jpg

Got any historical evidence for your boy Jesus you'd like to post here?

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@neologist,

neologist wrote:

Good grief. If you don't like the word design. Will you agree there is a certain order?

All right, All right. Order amongst your chaos.Because without order at some point we would not have much to talk about.

Yeah, sure--crystals form, and are either left-handed or right-handed; -OH radicals in the presence of molecules with spare bonds will immediately attach themselves, and that often forms long chains of linked molecules (hint: we get complex sugars and complex proteins that way); i've already pointed out that free molecular oxygen (O2) will bond with minerals, either dissolved in water or "free standing" in rocks. In fact, O@ was being regularly removed from the atmosphere by iron, which left bands of "red ocher" (hematite) which are the evidence for the pre-oxygenation event process which removed molecular oxygen. I see affinities arising from chemistry which the self-deluded may want to call order.

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The Bible is full of fascinating close encounters between humans and off-world beings over thousands of years, whereas the Atheists bible is only full of blank pages.. Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Bible-two.gif

Even the Koran admits Jesus was something special.. Smile

[Koran 2.253]- "Allah...gave clear miracles to Isa [Jesus] son of Marium [Mary], and strengthened him with the holy spirit."
And the Jewish Toledot Yeshu also admits Jesus existed-
WIKI- "The Toledot Yeshu (The History of Jesus) is a medieval version of the story of Jesus from a Jewish perspective"
And The Gospel Of Thomas and the Gospel of Mary are both OUTSIDE the bible but they both talk about Jesus.. Smile

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Can't handle debate, can ya . . . there's no such thing as "the atheist bible." What evidence do you have that atheists have for centuries said that Nazareth didn't exist at the time the putative Jesus was said to have lived? What unambiguous historical evidence do you have for your boy Jesus? What unambiguous evidence do you have that humans ever met "off-world beings?" You just keep making **** up.

Try to keep up, OK--your images are not funny, and they are usually boring, especially because you keep using them over and over again.

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