Atheism

The credits at the end of that video read like a Who's Who of militant atheists. It even gives the names of who the main culprits are on Youtube.

(I'm against any kind of organised "movement", too.)

I don't see it as an "anthem" but if you want to make it into one or call it that I guess that might be true for some but not for me. I don't really see the video as anything spectacular. The song isn't even that great, although it has a bit of a depeche mode feel to it, it's pretty boring, too repetitive.

Besides that there is already a so called atheists movement, and it is not something new. The only reason it exists is because there are still theists who want to oppress any objection to their theology.

For me I don't find reading dawkins or hitchens material or debates as anything interesting. To me they are preaching to the choir. I would rather have discussions with theists than to listen to something that I pretty much already know.

My question is, so what? So what if there is a movement or that atheists find a need to become a group? Have you ever considered that many people feel trapped by their families or the society they live in and seek to find a group of people who they can discus things with and who will understand them? We are social animals and we always want and strive to be apart of the tribe or group phenomena. We are geared that way so we seek it out even when it might not be necessary. People want and seek the feeling of belonging somewhere and very few people seek to not belong anywhere.

I can see many good things coming out of atheists groups. In fact it could put to bed one argument that theists try to use against atheists. That atheists provide no good to their society and that makes their theology more important. It is a fallacy of course but they will never understand it until they see that they are wrong.

Anyways if you can't see any of that in your "uncomfortable" point of view then I don't think you have really thought about it at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Atheism

Krumple:
So what if there is a movement or that atheists find a need to become a group? Have you ever considered that many people feel trapped by their families or the society they live in and seek to find a group of people who they can discus things with and who will understand them? We are social animals and we always want and strive to be apart of the tribe or group phenomena. We are geared that way so we seek it out even when it might not be necessary. People want and seek the feeling of belonging somewhere and very few people seek to not belong anywhere.

I can see many good things coming out of atheists groups.

In essence, that is the sort of thing this thread was intended for. Not that I would join any formally organized group or sign on to a creed.

Hey, it seems that we have that in common.

edgar, Good points! Maybe, we need to "organize." LOL

Only on this thread, thus far.

And if someone doesn't believe in God the way we want them to we can kick them out - maybe burn 'em at the stake.

Now that is poorly written!

I'll take care of any virgins who crop up . . .

That sentence really resonated with me, Krumple.
That's why I'm an atheist who attends a non denominational church every Sunday.
Not only do I enjoy playing in the praise band but the speakers that come once a month are fascinating.

Today was extra special as a Christian Apologist spoke to the congregation.
Apologists(defenders) are highly trained divinity scholars who debate atheists and other non believers for the Christian faith.

Dr Davis is a professor at Southeastern University

After wards, about 10 of us took the prof out to lunch at a Mexican place where he fielded some lame questions like:"Why does God allow suffering?"
When it came to morality, society and the church though, he was very astute and informative.

An Atheist in the house of God.

I would rather have discussions with theists than to listen to something that I pretty much already know. Nevertheless, you are here.

I am curious about Ministerial Ethics as it is at the coal face that most religions become a logical nightmare. Did you ask any tricky questions on that ?

Do you not also enjoy wearing Sunday Best and seeing others in their's and socialising or networking and the general civilised ambience? Do the others know you are an atheist?

What does the University Professor say about morality, society and the church?

I presume you mean Io questions about married priests and celibacy in general as well as sources of investment income.

And whether there is any tension between his department and the biology professors.

What logical nightmare are you meaning?

IN Catholic Doctrine, you are supposed to have sex to please your partner. But they are not supposed to enjoy it "selfishly". They are supposed to be pleasing you. The rhythm method of contraception means having sex closest to her period to avoid pregnancy. To please her the most, which of course she will not enjoy, you will have to do it in the other two weeks furthest from her period. The process of sex let alone sex with approved contraception is a logical nightmare. And there are many other instances where priests in Ivory Towers have got it wrong, or at best bizarrely complicated.
As an aside, the Catholics have gone totally against Judaism where the two weeks closest to the period are strictly avoided for sex.

There are more than 50 entries in the Catechism of the Catholic Church under "matrimony". I assume the intention is the orderly and stable organisation of child rearing and property relations.

The Vatican archives will be full of examples of every form of the exercise of the sex instinct and the doctrines will be what is thought to be the most useful compromise. Whether it is as useful today as it was is a moot point.

There are other natural methods of birth control besides the rhythm method. The Church is against artificial methods which it sees as profaning the act and as demeaning to women. It is impossible imo to dispute that despite the many sophistries employed by misogynists to do so for obvious reasons. Convenience of the male and the profits of providers of the "kits" for example.

Five ignored posts in a row. Perhaps we've got termites -?

I don't believe i've ever seen another thread so prone to drawing antagonistic tourists.

Snap! Nice to know we ignore the same posters EB. One day I will buy you a Lone Star.