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@reasoning logic,

You're a snide bastard, in addition to being a flannel-mouthed, arrogant son of a bitch. I don't claim this is my house, and your remarks seem to be conditioned by your inability to respond intelligently to what i've posted. That suggests to me that you must be one of the philosophy forum refugees.

Jackass.

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@ossobuco,

Thank you for your kind words it is all good! Very Happy

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@Setanta,

You are from the catholic church aren't you?

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For those who want to match wits with the deists and agnostics, there are multiple threads out there and no shortage of adversaries. Like littlek, I don't mind if a deist drops in, just don't want any hijackings.

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@edgarblythe,

I think hijacking is the object of people like Intrepid and Snood. Someone like Smileyrius i suspect just doesn't know any better. I've said all i have to say about or to the arrogant, snide son of a bitch.

We still get a lot of interesting commentary from atheists who come here, and occasionally (but not often) from theists who show up. But it just makes that much more bullshit one has to wade through to find something worth reading.

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

smiley
Is this going to be a prolonged conversation? I need to know how much longer to avoid this thread.

Why haven't you posed this also to Cicerone Imposter with whom the conversation is taking place?

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I centered on the one that began it, but I sincerely wish for such digressions to be held elsewhere. That ought to be clear, since I have made my point numbers of times.

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@Intrepid,

because I am not sure cicerone stays around long enough to understand.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

I think hijacking is the object of people like Intrepid and Snood. Someone like Smileyrius i suspect just doesn't know any better. I've said all i have to say about or to the arrogant, snide son of a bitch.

We still get a lot of interesting commentary from atheists who come here, and occasionally (but not often) from theists who show up. But it just makes that much more bullshit one has to wade through to find something worth reading.

The voice of the shamelessly hypocritical hath spoken.

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@snood,

Whatever, I'll try to post on matters relevant to me.

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I think what draws deists and some agnostics even to a thread like this is the fact we offer many criticisms of world religions and Christianity in particular. A dig at Christianity is taken personally, no matter how many times we seek to reassure them that our words are not aimed at every practitioner, but at the system of belief. I think very highly of a number of deists and agnostics who post on a2k. But, on a thread such as this, I reserve the right to express my thoughts on the topic without censoring myself. I do get tired of trying to reassure the ones that constantly seem offended by what they read here.

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@edgarblythe,

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A dig at Christianity is taken personally, no matter how many times we seek to reassure them that our words are not aimed at every practitioner, but at the system of belief.

I don't take them personally ed. They are aimed at our way of life. I merely defend our way of life whilst allowing that atheists might improve it if only they had the nerve to explain how.

It is quite obvious, and has been for a few hundred years, that those who want to dig at things can have no easier target than Christianity so long as they never offer any alternative to it. That they never do offer any alternative is sufficient evidence to me to demonstrate a gratuitous superficiality indulged in for reasons of posturing self-justification. Such things are a laughing matter where responsible discussion is taking place.

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@spendius,

How can you improve it when believers don't have the capacity to understand what is being said? Rather than accept at face value what is presented, you always feel its an attack rather than truth and facts. The twain shall never meet.

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

I think what draws deists and some agnostics even to a thread like this is the fact we offer many criticisms of world religions and Christianity in particular. A dig at Christianity is taken personally, no matter how many times we seek to reassure them that our words are not aimed at every practitioner, but at the system of belief. I think very highly of a number of deists and agnostics who post on a2k. But, on a thread such as this, I reserve the right to express my thoughts on the topic without censoring myself. I do get tired of trying to reassure the ones that constantly seem offended by what they read here.

Ok, fair enough. So, what draws atheists and agnostics to threads that are expressly created for discussions of faith and spirituality among like-minded people?

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

It is quite obvious, and has been for a few hundred years, that those who want to dig at things can have no easier target than Christianity so long as they never offer any alternative to it. That they never do offer any alternative is sufficient evidence to me to demonstrate a gratuitous superficiality indulged in for reasons of posturing self-justification. Such things are a laughing matter where responsible discussion is taking place.

Very well said.

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It would never occur to me that Spurious knows what responsible discussion is--all he ever attempts to do is to make himself the center of attention, at whatever cost to the subject under discussion.

Apparently, O'George has little grasp of what responsible discussion is, either, if he thinks Spurious has contributed to it here.

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@georgeob1,

Actually, it's any religion that claims a god or gods. Christianity has been the target, because most western and developed countries have adopted christianity as their primary religion.

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@Setanta,

Actually I wasn't addressing whether or not Spendius' comment constituted "responsible discussion", only that he expressed an important idea very well. Whether it was a "responsible" contribution to the "discussion" is likely to be a judgement that is highly dependent on the observer's point of view.

Setanta wrote:

It would never occur to me that Spurious knows what responsible discussion is--all he ever attempts to do is to make himself the center of attention, at whatever cost to the subject under discussion.

Could there be just a little projection at work here?

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@georgeob1,

No, George, there couldn't. If you weren't so eager to do what Intrepid and Snood are attempting to do--derail a discussion which is distasteful to you--you might be a little more honest about this. Spurious has a history stretching back over years of trashing threads such as the ones about evolution by attempting to make himself and his ideas the center of discussion, rather than the topics of those threads. He has attempted to do the same here. I have no doubt that he is more than a little put out by his lack of success here.

And i will shortly be adding your name to the list of trashers here, if you have nothing more to add that personally-directed invective and snide observations about a thread the subject of which is probably offensive to you.

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

I think what draws deists and some agnostics even to a thread like this is the fact we offer many criticisms of world religions and Christianity in particular. A dig at Christianity is taken personally, no matter how many times we seek to reassure them that our words are not aimed at every practitioner, but at the system of belief. I think very highly of a number of deists and agnostics who post on a2k. But, on a thread such as this, I reserve the right to express my thoughts on the topic without censoring myself. I do get tired of trying to reassure the ones that constantly seem offended by what they read here.

If this is truly a thread about atheism, for atheists, then why the need for the remarks like "we offer many criticisms of world religions and Christianity in particular"? How is that promoting atheism and being an atheist? Just wondering.

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